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    For those who has m62b44 non tu.

    Dear friends, just tried put m60 cam to m62 non tu engine. Result is immpressed. For sure 15-20hp increased. Plus, find 2 additional exhaust cam and put to intake. Additional power gain.
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    None tu? Lost me there. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Bimmer540 View Post
    None tu? Lost me there. Lol

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    Some one with tu engine should try it. I have just rebuild my engine and do not want to be face with that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovlet View Post
    Some one with tu engine should try it. I have just rebuild my engine and do not want to be face with that again.
    I'm almost positive it won't work, TU engines have vanos which will screw it all up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtonBH View Post
    I'm almost positive it won't work, TU engines have vanos which will screw it all up

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    Perhaps won't.
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    Are you the one that said you are looking to get rid of a supercharger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Bimmer540 View Post
    Are you the one that said you are looking to get rid of a supercharger?

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    Yeah, i said. But then when i calculated how much i spent for stage 1 & 2 i changed my mind.
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    I know if you know anybody looking to get rid of one or I can find some headers with v flange for turbos

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Bimmer540 View Post
    I know if you know anybody looking to get rid of one or I can find some headers with v flange for turbos

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    Can you please send some photos of headers for turbo v8
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    I have no photos, I am looking for some V flange headers myself. Photos would be nice.

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    I have asked this question a couple times, how much boost would a stock m62 handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dovlet View Post
    Dear friends, just tried put m60 cam to m62 non tu engine. Result is immpressed. For sure 15-20hp increased. Plus, find 2 additional exhaust cam and put to intake. Additional power gain.
    Did you swap the M60 heads too or will the cam fit the M62 head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StRaNgEdAyS View Post
    Did you swap the M60 heads too or will the cam fit the M62 head?

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    Yeah, it is fit. Minor changes should be done. Star should be grinded a bit or you should change your chain for duble chain.
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    While this cam swap is a great addition to a m62, the cams cannot be used without swapping heads.
    Yes, major work could be done meaning making a two part clam shell spacer to weld together onto the front cam journal, then grinding the thrust surface for clearance and to not to tear up the head thrust surface.
    Then the blending of the dual chain cam and single main chain as the spacing is off.
    Best to swap m60 heads and then run the whole m60 double chain setup.
    Even wit the complete dual chain setup, the trigger wheel will need modifications.
    I have included a picture of a m60 cam on a tu head to show front cam journal width difference. 20171019_130926.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagons ho View Post
    While this cam swap is a great addition to a m62, the cams cannot be used without swapping heads.
    Yes, major work could be done meaning making a two part clam shell spacer to weld together onto the front cam journal, then grinding the thrust surface for clearance and to not to tear up the head thrust surface.
    Then the blending of the dual chain cam and single main chain as the spacing is off.
    Best to swap m60 heads and then run the whole m60 double chain setup.
    Even wit the complete dual chain setup, the trigger wheel will need modifications.
    I have included a picture of a m60 cam on a tu head to show front cam journal width difference. 20171019_130926.jpg
    Yeah, you are right but, you can do that with no swamping the heads. Only cams, also it is better to switch it to double chain but a\lso you can do it with single chain, just need some grinding on cams stars (have no idea about right name but in Russian we calling it Звездочька)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovlet View Post
    Yeah, you are right but, you can do that with no swamping the heads. Only cams, also it is better to switch it to double chain but a\lso you can do it with single chain, just need some grinding on cams stars (have no idea about right name but in Russian we calling it Звездочька)
    Sprocket? You're talking what the chain goes around, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtonBH View Post
    Sprocket? You're talking what the chain goes around, right?

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    Right. The sprocket from m62 should be grinded a bit to fit m60 cams. If you change single chain set up to two cain then not thing to be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovlet View Post
    Right. The sprocket from m62 should be grinded a bit to fit m60 cams. If you change single chain set up to two cain then not thing to be changed.
    You had no valve clearance issues with the piston in the non vanos engine due to the more aggressive cam profile?
    IIRC the pistons don't have cut outs like those on the vanos engines do

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    Just to clarify...

    So you:

    Put M60 exhaust cam into -> M62TU exhaust cam position
    Put M60 exhaust cam into -> M62TU intake cam position

    ?

    Also - which engine is this? Did you have your engine re-sleeved already? Hard to keep up with whats happening in Ashgabat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargrinder View Post
    Just to clarify...

    So you:

    Put M60 exhaust cam into -> M62TU exhaust cam position
    Put M60 exhaust cam into -> M62TU intake cam position

    ?

    Also - which engine is this? Did you have your engine re-sleeved already? Hard to keep up with whats happening in Ashgabat.
    Hahaha,
    No bro, that is not m62tu. We are talking about m62 with m60 cams. Some one said it is possible to put in to m62tu as well. But, i do not know.
    I know only that it is giving good result if m60 cams will be installed in to m62. There a re way as i described little above.
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    What he's done is put M60B40 cams into M62B44 heads, machined off one of the sprockets rows on the cam gears to accommodate the single row timing chain, and evidently has good results.

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    Last edited by StRaNgEdAyS; 10-21-2017 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StRaNgEdAyS View Post
    What he's done is put M60B40 cams into M62B44 heads, machined off one of the sprockets rows on the cam gears to accommodate the single row timing chain, and evidently has good results.

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    No. Refer to my previous post.
    I'll give credit for the good results part as increased cam specs will raise performance. But this is not a bolt on swap .
    Remember that silly little issue of cam journal width?
    Until someone tells me how they overcame it I will beat the drum and say you must change heads.
    Misinformation is a disservice.
    And you don't machine off a row of the double sprocket, you machine down the backside of the m62 main chain transfer gear.
    And I'm not worried about piston to valve clearance as the 4.0 has the same deck height, but what about valve spring/ seal clearance on 5he m62 head?
    Remember, I'm for it but trying to help.

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