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Thread: Input on selecting the right clutch for me?

  1. #26
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    Might just give the gripforce stage3 a shot but how is it to live with day to day? also anyone know what it's actually rated at torque wise?
    Last edited by dirtdiggler; 10-16-2017 at 11:52 AM.

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    SACHS 765 with a stock organic disk? apparently these are good for 600nm, and I read that this is the conservative stock rating. Set to the perfect spring height, the clamping force gets crazy! I have a link somewhere of a Swedish dude testing the clamp pressure versus 'spring height'. With a stock 240mm organic disk, they are very nice to drive.

    Rama from RHD sells a chrome moly LWF that uses this PP and mounts to an M5x.

    http://server.pure-pf.com/webshop2/e...ure-plate.html
    1989 E30 - M50B28 Turbo - ZF 8 Speed

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    I'm also in the market for a twin disc, thanks to butters for posting all that info. I called Competition Clutch yesterday because their website wasn't showing a clutch option for the e36 m3. I spoke with Chris Siebert, he said that the twin disc they sell is actually the DKM brand clutch. I'm not sure if this is what they have always sold that was previously branded by them or not. I do know they sell it for $1295 with organic discs and can ship 1-2 days after purchase. I'm waiting to see if any black Friday deals happen this weekend and then jump on it.

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    Just a heads up for anyone interested, once I get around to pulling it I am putting my very low mile UUC twin feramic up for sale for 1200 (going 4 speed and have a GM fitment Tilton for it).

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    A few years later Does anyone have any feedback on chatter with the DKM twin disk (organic)? I have read many posts that it's a very streetable clutch, nice engagement, but don't see info on chatter (hopefully there is none).
    Last edited by abradic; 06-23-2020 at 01:40 AM.
    MODS: AA SC'D Rotrex C38-92 Stage 2 (60# injectors)==M50 Manifold==Snow Performance Stage 2.5 Meth Kit==Schrick 264/256 Cams==AA Ceramic Coated Headers==AA Trackpipe==Eisenmann Race 2x76==Clutch Master FX250 Clutch==Euro Oil Cooler==MANN Provent 200 Crankcase Catch Can==AA DSB== X-Brace==ZKW 6000K HID FX-R retrofit with Orion V2 L.E.D. Angel Eyes==Euro clear signals and tail lights==M-Tech Pedals and E-Brake==BBS RGR Diamond Black 17x8; 17x9 staggered==Leather Z Gauge Kit (oil temp, oil press, voltage)==Rally Road Guage Pod (steering wheel mounted with AEM AFR guage and Prosport boost gauge)==Cut-ring head gasket==Head refresh done by Autohead Performance==KW V2 Coilover Kit

    Current with 85mm pulley and meth: 450 whp 365 wtq @ 13 psi on a Dynojet at Performance Eurowerks in Buffalo Grove, IL.
    Previous: AA Mustang Dyno Tuned in Miami, FL @ 10 psi on 93 pump made 392whp 325wtq (
    Performance Eurowerks Dynojet in Buffalo Grove, IL was 410 whp and 325 wtq @ 10 psi)

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    I have the same question as abradic. my fx gripforce stg4 kit is slipping, but i have driven it many thousands of miles. Debating on getting the same thing again (way cheaper) or just buying the dkm twin disk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdiggler View Post
    Anyone with experience on the south bend stage 3 street vs stage 3 endurance?
    the stage 5, it feels like stock no jerking. I'm going with gs6-53bz transmission so I will have to sell mine. Under 1000 miles on it. And like someone mentioned, the rebuilts are very cheap. They actually send you a new clutch and pressure plate. If you're interested, I can send you pictures of it.


    96 M3, GT4094R, Arrow Rods, CP Pistons, Elring HG, cutring 87mm, 10 mm ARP studs,MS3pro, EMC Intercooler, n54 6 speed with Motiv twin disk, ZT-2 wideband, Zionsville Radiator, X-brace, H&R springs with bilstien shocks, QTP electronic cutout, Line Locks, stock exhaust 455rwtq, 453rwhp at 14 psi 91 octane.......684rwtq, 681rwhp at 24 psi running flex fuel E60 at time of dyno tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    I had one years ago M52 with a 35R. It held 17-18 psi on the street but fused it at the track. Maybe around 475-500whp 425-450tq. Stay off the drag strip with kevlar.

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    I had the same happened to me at the dragstip many years ago. I called Southbend and I returned their kevlar disc and pressure plate and they sent me their new stage 5 ceramic and new pressure plate. Drives and feels like stock


    96 M3, GT4094R, Arrow Rods, CP Pistons, Elring HG, cutring 87mm, 10 mm ARP studs,MS3pro, EMC Intercooler, n54 6 speed with Motiv twin disk, ZT-2 wideband, Zionsville Radiator, X-brace, H&R springs with bilstien shocks, QTP electronic cutout, Line Locks, stock exhaust 455rwtq, 453rwhp at 14 psi 91 octane.......684rwtq, 681rwhp at 24 psi running flex fuel E60 at time of dyno tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3boost View Post
    the stage 5, it feels like stock no jerking. I'm going with gs6-53bz transmission so I will have to sell mine. Under 1000 miles on it. And like someone mentioned, the rebuilts are very cheap. They actually send you a new clutch and pressure plate. If you're interested, I can send you pictures of it.
    Southbend told me it renumbered its clutches. I had the old SB Stage 5 and liked it. Fused the standard disk at the drag strip. They send me the notched version because it cools faster but I fused that one also. Then they sent me the ceramic and I never fused it at the strip. It did start slipping after 10-15k miles, but I was probably overpowering it. It might be the best single disk daily driver clutch for moderate power versions of these motors (400-600 lbs rwtq).

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    Quote Originally Posted by acbx View Post
    I have the same question as abradic. my fx gripforce stg4 kit is slipping, but i have driven it many thousands of miles. Debating on getting the same thing again (way cheaper) or just buying the dkm twin disk.
    I got some responses and info on this thread, scroll towards the bottom and page 2 for the recent posts. Hope the info helps.

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...lutch-Opinions
    MODS: AA SC'D Rotrex C38-92 Stage 2 (60# injectors)==M50 Manifold==Snow Performance Stage 2.5 Meth Kit==Schrick 264/256 Cams==AA Ceramic Coated Headers==AA Trackpipe==Eisenmann Race 2x76==Clutch Master FX250 Clutch==Euro Oil Cooler==MANN Provent 200 Crankcase Catch Can==AA DSB== X-Brace==ZKW 6000K HID FX-R retrofit with Orion V2 L.E.D. Angel Eyes==Euro clear signals and tail lights==M-Tech Pedals and E-Brake==BBS RGR Diamond Black 17x8; 17x9 staggered==Leather Z Gauge Kit (oil temp, oil press, voltage)==Rally Road Guage Pod (steering wheel mounted with AEM AFR guage and Prosport boost gauge)==Cut-ring head gasket==Head refresh done by Autohead Performance==KW V2 Coilover Kit

    Current with 85mm pulley and meth: 450 whp 365 wtq @ 13 psi on a Dynojet at Performance Eurowerks in Buffalo Grove, IL.
    Previous: AA Mustang Dyno Tuned in Miami, FL @ 10 psi on 93 pump made 392whp 325wtq (
    Performance Eurowerks Dynojet in Buffalo Grove, IL was 410 whp and 325 wtq @ 10 psi)

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