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    NBCSN Loses 2018 F1 Contract to ESPN

    F1 moving to ESPN next year:

    https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/formu...ear-1819135364

    Interesting part to me:

    Sports Business Daily reported on the deal and said ESPN is not believed to be paying a rights fee for the programming and will instead “rely on a world feed to carry the races.”
    I understand NBCSN uses the world feed for the camera work, but does this mean we will get the Sky Sports commentators? Will ESPN not be doing any production work at all and just broadcast the race?

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    Intredasting. Just in time for the halos to be introduced as well... Nice.

    I think the in-studio trio of Diffey, Hobbs and Matchett moved from Speed to NBCSN when the latter acquired the coverage rights. Maybe they'll move to ESPN as well. As I understand it, Buxton is more of a roving reporter; I've seen his interviews and such on Sky as well.
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    Well...maybe we'll get a "C'mon Man" segment for F1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3fuz View Post
    Well...maybe we'll get a "C'mon Man" segment for F1.

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    I hope the NBC chit-chatters dont move to ESPN


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    This "ESPN not paying for rights" would indicate to me that F1/Liberty Media is going to be offering an online service for watching live streams. Will be interesting to see what happens when other countries TV rights/contracts expire.

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    I said this in the Jalopnik thread, but if F1 went directly over the top worldwide, I wonder how that math would work out. Would you pay $100/year to stream all of F1's coverage with no commercials?

    What is the total of all of Liberty/F1's TV contracts, how many people consume F1 every week, and how much would you have to charge an individual to break even on the TV deals?
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    $100/year no halo, yes.
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    Sky pays 35 million GBP a year for exclusive rights in the UK = 46 million USD.

    So they'd need 460K viewers in the UK at $100 a year to match that. Also it's only $5 per race.

    They could charge that for quali and race only. If you want FP sessions, telemetry, incar camera feeds, apps etc they could charge a little more thus requiring fewer subscribers to the feed.

    But yeah, I'd pay $100 year but only if I got FP, quali, race, various feeds, and good commentary on top of it. That's not because I'm cheap, if I could afford more I'd pay more.

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    Good i can see it for free on unimas, without commercials. On a side note, I pay 80euro a year for the MotoGP streaming, moto2, and moto3. Plus all the years before.
    If Liberty media gives something similar, like onboards, practice, testing, behind the scenes, etc i would pay $100....as long as i don't get pop up or commercials like on the nbcsn app

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    I'd be willing to pay that much for all that coverage.

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    Plus uninterrupted live streaming and no ad breaks in between.



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    Quote Originally Posted by roarf View Post
    Could you imagine if Maldonado was still in F1? Talk about a script that writes itself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    $100/year no halo, yes.
    That.

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    I would pay $100 a year for all of it, probably more for additional parallel feeds/data/telemetry/blah. halo or not. I hate paying for cable to get access to a handful of things and indirectly funding every other shit-show on TV

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    If they stick to this three PU rule, along with the farcical grid penalties, along with the halo, it’s going to be tough to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    If they stick to this three PU rule, along with the farcical grid penalties, along with the halo, it’s going to be tough to watch.
    All the grid penalties were from Honda and Renault. Mercedes and Ferrari only had 20 each. I am in favor of penalties, how long did renault and honda had to get their act together, would be unfair to penalize the others who did their homework.
    If all teams have the chance to run new engines and stuff ok, but not if say Sauber needs a new engine and they keep their position on the grid.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonkers320is View Post
    All the grid penalties were from Honda and Renault. Mercedes and Ferrari only had 20 each. I am in favor of penalties, how long did renault and honda had to get their act together, would be unfair to penalize the others who did their homework.
    If all teams have the chance to run new engines and stuff ok, but not if say Sauber needs a new engine and they keep their position on the grid.....

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    Penalize the constructors for mechanicals, drivers for driving infractions. Penalizing Fernando 20 places for taking his 7th PU only reduces the value of the show to the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Penalize the constructors for mechanicals, drivers for driving infractions. Penalizing Fernando 20 places for taking his 7th PU only reduces the value of the show to the fans.
    They could get rid of the number. Instead of saying 20-30 places, just say starts from the back of the grid due to new engine. WTCC, BTCC, Etc change and engine go to the back.

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    That would go a ways to clean up the ridiculousness that is more grid penalty spots than cars on grid. How many engines are allowed in the other series?
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    Penalize the constructors for mechanicals, drivers for driving infractions.
    I agree. Take points from the constructor's championship for PU penalties. Leave driver's point and grip spots alone.

    Its funny, Matchett always says that the constructors really only value the Constructor's Championship but I think the fans (and probably drivers, even the non-champion ones) really value the Driver's Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    That would go a ways to clean up the ridiculousness that is more grid penalty spots than cars on grid. How many engines are allowed in the other series?
    The WEC allows 5 engines allocated for the season in the LMP1 class, I'm not sure of the number in P2. NASCAR is moving to a sealed engine that has to run at least 4 races in Cup for 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    The WEC allows 5 engines allocated for the season in the LMP1 class, I'm not sure of the number in P2. NASCAR is moving to a sealed engine that has to run at least 4 races in Cup for 2018.
    MotoGP has a 4 engine too, but you are allowed another bike to be set up and ready in the garage for each rider, like F1 used to have, which I thought was a good idea.
    Also, the technical rules for 2018 f1:
    https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announc...il-decisions-8

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    Todt, lol, while choking the life from F1 cautions F1 management against upsetting the manufacturers. How was Todt unchallenged for a third term heading the FIA?

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...-manufacturers
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Todt, lol, while choking the life from F1 cautions F1 management against upsetting the manufacturers. How was Todt unchallenged for a third term heading the FIA?

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...-manufacturers
    Ferrari.
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