The story begins with a huge love to M62)) Got it in my e38, great engine! Going thru the craigslist I accidentally bumped into a gentleman who had it since the car was new! Well maintained. The price was funny for such a great car - only 3k. He couldn't sell it because the driver door was jammed and he got a flat in a back with no spare tire. Luckily my e38 has the same rim bolt pattern, so I put my spare instead of his blew up tire, hopped into a driver seat thru the passenger door and we were off for a test drive! I bought that car right there! Smooth ride, perfect condition of the interior. Next day we showed up with a spare for the X5 and brought it home.
IMG_1389 (1).jpg
Four new tires all around, a little bit of detail, plus a great deal for the trailer hitch - found one with all the wiring at a local junkyard for just $90!
photo_2017-06-05_11-50-09.jpg
A little bit of work with a cutter to fit everything perfectly and off we go to pick up my other project - HD Sportster. Here is the link if anybody interested - https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sportster-models/1181309-1995-xl1200-build-thread.html
IMG_1430 (1).jpg
U-haul doesn't let you take a motorcycle trailer if you move from one city to another, so we had to take the regular utility trailer, which was kinda heavy for the X5. The tranny sure didn't like it. One time even got stuck in the second gear, so I had to change gears manually, then I stopped, turned off the engine and let it sit for a bit. Then fired up again, never had this issue since then.
Will perform a major maintenance in a couple of weeks to change all the gaskets, hoses, front and rear suspension: front has some issues, also rear ball joints need my attention. Will keep you guys posted.
Last edited by Rokolya87; 09-25-2017 at 11:25 PM.
It looks like our X has its own opinion on when and how exactly the maintenance should be performed!))) LOL
As soon as I started to think about making a complete change of all the gaskets, seals and hoses, it decided I should also take care of the VANOSes. Both of them of course. First, the engine started to make a rattling noise. I barely made it to the garage, where it died completely. Well, it's time to visit my old buddy and hear the diagnosis.
photo_2017-10-02_23-24-06.jpg
photo_2017-10-02_23-23-45.jpg photo_2017-10-02_23-23-52.jpg
We took out the engine. With his experience, it took only 6 hours and here is what we discovered: almost all chain tensioners were ruined! Because of that the chain was jumping all over the place and rubbing against the aluminum covers.
photo_2017-10-02_23-23-56.jpg
The reason why engine died was the bolt that unscrewed itself and the driver side VANOS spun on the shaft and 2 exhaust valves touched the piston. The piston is fine. valves are trashed. Both heads need a rebuild.
photo_2017-10-02_23-23-49.jpg
Overall condition is very good: no carbon deposits in the coolant valleys, oil passages are clean and gold color with no dirt or burnout buildups alusil on the walls of the cylinders isn't worn at all. The previous owner took a good care of it. So the tensioners were destroyed simply because they were 15 years old.
photo_2017-10-02_23-24-01.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 10-07-2017 at 02:00 AM.
Two weeks or so and the X will be back on the road. I don't want to spend $1700 for two new vanoses. Found this guy online https://www.ebay.com/i/191157406599, pretty close to my place so I can go there myself and check out how he refurbishes them, I have no idea how they work, so it is hard for me to judge if it's legit. If anybody has experience with VANOS refurbishing, I'd be glad to hear an opinion!
Wow, good old single row chain tensioners failure,.
e30 84 340i m6x powered.
e34 89 535i 5speed - current DD
e24 89 635csi - maybe a DD?
e34 93 525i (m50tu) - gone
e39 540i 6spd m-sport - gone
e53 x5 4.4l - gone
e30 89 325i (m20) - gone
I did it myself, pretty easy if not a bit tedious, you’ll need the press kit and their pick set is really helpful in the shape and size that they made it. The owner of Beisan is a very very helpful and knowledgeable guy and will assist you if needed.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Cheers, Rob
03' BMW E53 X5 (M62 4.4i)
05' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
04' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
Few more non BMW Rovers
M62tu or bust!
I just posted another message answering your question above - but reading back into your thread and noticing that you had a difficult time towing a uhaul trailer with a motorcycle on it. I've been able to tow 7000lb+ easily with mine, it keeps revs up to keep water flowing through the 5HP-24's water rad to keep it cool, when they start getting old, or stuffed up with contaminants you'll start noticing that more. I'd recommend to make sure a transmission service has been done to go along with your rebuilt engine. ie. water cooler done, and a filter and fluid service. As you and more likely know, BMW's lifetime fluid is the downfall to many of the X5, RR, and occasionally e38 and e39 5HP-24s.
But that's just my $.02
Cheers, Rob
03' BMW E53 X5 (M62 4.4i)
05' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
04' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
Few more non BMW Rovers
M62tu or bust!
Thank you kindly, Rob! Both your comments are incredibly helpful! I'll order the VANOS Beisan repair kit and make it myself. Also, will take a closer look at the tranny before we will start to put everything together. The previous owner replaced it 3 years ago with refurbished one, I have the paperwork for it. Too bad guaranty was only for 2 years)). Gasket looked fine too, no leaks. Still, I think it's better to open it, replace the filter and take a look to be sure. Thanks again!
Last edited by Rokolya87; 10-07-2017 at 01:57 AM.
Good luck with the VANOS rebuild! They have a helpful guide on their website for rebuilding the units.
When a new/rebuild transmission is installed, there's almost no chance they checked the water rad as it is in the engine bay. Don't blame them, air cooled units are usually lifetime, and I've solemn worked on another vehicle with one.
pic04.jpg
The part I am talking about is under the lowest green arrow.
Cheers
Cheers, Rob
03' BMW E53 X5 (M62 4.4i)
05' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
04' Range Rover (M62 4.4i)
Few more non BMW Rovers
M62tu or bust!
Powder coated valve covers over the weekend. Since they are almost hidden under the plastic covers and sound protection cap, I've decided to go with a simple clear glass coating to protect aluminum from fading. Looks alright. Nothing crazy like red. There are a few imperfections, I know. Yet it is a daily ride, not a show car, so I just want them to be clean and protected from constant heat.
IMG_2155.jpgIMG_2159.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 10-12-2017 at 03:28 PM.
Cylinder heads are ready! Two damaged valves, one hydraulic valve lifter, and all valve seal rings were replaced. The bottom of both cylinder heads was slightly machined. All valves were rubbed into their places.
IMG_2230.jpg IMG_2231.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 10-12-2017 at 03:26 PM.
Did both VANOS today. Fairly easy job. 400 bucks for refurbishing my a**)). 60 dollars for seals, 4 hours of free time, a vice and a very long breaker bar. Like seriously long. Like 4 ft long!))) Torque to reseal the VANOS is between 500 and 1000 ft/lbs.
IMG_2237.jpg
The difference is incredible! Huge thanks to you Rob and guys from beisansystems.com. The materials are great quality and the procedure description is very thorough!
A whole bunch of spare parts is coming next week. Will assemble the X back very soon!
While waiting for the parts to arrive, I remembered there was little problem with the steering before a friend of mine advised to spray WD-40 over the double joint. I decided to take a closer look while it's removed and that's what I discovered:
IMG_2245.jpg IMG_2246.jpg
There is some sort of a little rubber boot inside of the double joint. Because it was already ruined, I decided to pull it out completely.
IMG_2248.jpg IMG_2247.jpg
The joints are in good condition thou. Only the rubber boot was causing troubles. However, now I'm concerned that the steel ball in the middle that was protected by the rubber boot, is now exposed and will corrode pretty fast. The only spare part I managed to find is Genuine BMW Steering Spindle Bottom W-Double Joint (X5) - Genuine BMW 32306762147 for 430 bucks on FCP. Which seems to me like a waste of money, since the whole column works well. Any suggestions and ideas are appreciated!
One more question: does anybody have experience with plastic arch and sill covers? Mine are a bit faded and I was thinking to use something like Wipe New Trim Kit from Walmart - http://*******/2xjqKBf, then I found this on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Sm0GIQ9dk. Looks a bit bizarre I might say. Especially the part where they point a heat gun towards the paint. Opinions?
The parts are in and we started to clean and reassemble the engine. The best way to clean the greasy dirt from the block is an oven degreaser. The only nuance is to cover the cylinders, so the degreaser won't get into them and won't damaged the alusil coating. Some people learned it the hard way, I've read about it here - https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...57#post8627357
IMG_2305.jpgIMG_2315.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 11-08-2017 at 07:50 PM.
All the surfaces were cleaned from dirt more or less. Unfortunately, the sink for part cleaning was clogged up from the day before so I had to do everything over a little plastic washtub. So the result isn't perfect, yet acceptable. All old gaskets were removed and replaced. After 16 years all the rubber turned into plastic. Literally. The gasket on the valve cover was hard as a stone. The coolant valley and passages were also cleaned.
IMG_2306.jpg
Unfortunately, we had to remove the engine from the stand since you need the flywheel to set up the timing.
IMG_2314.jpg IMG_2317.jpg IMG_2319.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 11-08-2017 at 07:49 PM.
M62 has a few weak spots where rubber gaskets seal valve covers and uppers timing case covers, so we add some extra Victor Reinz OEM Specification Silicone Sealant over the new rubber gaskets and in the corners. Maybe not too pretty, but will help to avoid leaks for the next 2 - 3 years.
IMG_2320.jpg IMG_2321.jpg IMG_2322.jpg
Last edited by Rokolya87; 11-08-2017 at 07:47 PM.
On the second day, the engine was ready to be installed back into the car. Pretty easy job in for the fully equipped shop. New hoses for the hydraulics and coolant. New gaskets and collar nuts for the exhaust. And it's in!
IMG_2324.jpg IMG_2326.jpgIMG_2327.jpgIMG_2332.jpgIMG_2333.jpg
New fluids are in and here goes the moment of truth! Turned on the key and it fired up right away! However, after about a minute it died. We tried again, the starter works constantly, the engine doesn't want to fire. We checked for the sparks, the camshafts are turning - all good. Tired and angry we went home. Another day another try. If anybody run into the simmilar situation before please share.
How's pressure look at the rail? Could be just wonderful timing for fuel pump failure.
Great job! I'm sure you'll get down to the bottom of it. Try asking over on the e39 or e38 forums, there's far more traffic there.
2001 Z3 3.0i -Oxford Green/Sandbeige
2016 428xi -Estoril Blue II/Black
2018 430iC- Estoril Blue II/Black
2018 330it - Melbourne Red/Venetian Beige/Black
Sweet!!
Coming over from the E39 post... Codes? Do you have BMW compatible PC or scanner aka INPA etc.?
2003 M3CicM6 TiAg
2002 540iT Sport Vortech S/C 6MT LSD TiAg
2008 Audi A3 2.0T DSG (the daily beater)
2014 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wifemobile)
Former:
1985 MB Euro graymarket 300SL
1995.5 Audi S6 Avant (utility/winter billetturbobattlewagen)
Bookmarks