Ebay crank girdles

[Def]

No wonder your wife doesn't argue with you....she's probably tired of getting shit through your thick skull. I know I am...too many years of you
being an asshole.
Don





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No shit...that was the joke. No wonder you call yourself "DEF".

Don

Can you show me on this doll where this thread hurt you?

[TheJuggernaut]

Can you show me on this doll where this thread hurt you?

Semi-serious question: why do you come here? As far as I can tell, you've never built a BMW with FI, don't plan to because you think they're old and beat up shit, and everyone here is a moron doing it wrong. Doesn't really add up. I mean, I personally appreciate your input when you're not being a prick but that's so rare that I don't get why you want to upset yourself so much. Seems like you'd be a lot happier on a forum with properly engineered engines and intelligent members.

[chikinhed]

You guys have your man girdles too tight.

[Def]

Semi-serious question: why do you come here? As far as I can tell, you've never built a BMW with FI, don't plan to because you think they're old and beat up shit, and everyone here is a moron doing it wrong. Doesn't really add up. I mean, I personally appreciate your input when you're not being a prick but that's so rare that I don't get why you want to upset yourself so much. Seems like you'd be a lot happier on a forum with properly engineered engines and intelligent members.

Wow, I had no idea I was causing so much angst on the BF.c FI forum...

I do drive a BMW with an N55 everyday, but I guess I missed the memo that a turbo I6 BMW doesn't count if it came from the factory that way.


As for why I visit, I stop by every once in a while for the few threads that are interesting. Just like any other internet forum I go to. You guys just took so much offense over some general statements of what a crank girdle does, thinking I'm demanding you run a crank girdle. I never did anything of the sort, so I still don't get why you guys are so emotional over the whole thing.

[TheJuggernaut]

It's not angst, just confusion. You have very condescending opinions about something you don't actually participate in. I didn't say you don't own a FI BMW, that's not a mandatory part of the basis for a sensible reason to be here. I said you never have and don't appear to intend to ever build one because of your apparent disdain for the engines and the people here. So you basically just come here to casually shit on people for your amusement?

[Def]

It's not angst, just confusion. You have very condescending opinions about something you don't actually participate in. I didn't say you don't own a FI BMW, that's not a mandatory part of the basis for a sensible reason to be here. I said you never have and don't appear to intend to ever build one because of your apparent disdain for the engines and the people here. So you basically just come here to casually shit on people for your amusement?

Since when do I have a disdain for M5x engines? I owned two E36 M3s and liked the S52 very much. I also like a lot of the posters on here, so I'm not sure why you think I'm coming in here to "shit on people." My E70 is also lightly modded, wasn't aware I had to achieve some sort of "minimum modding level" to participate in the forum...

I explained what a crank girdle does, and how it does have technical benefits, some people wanted to twist that into me saying it had to be used on a FI M5x engine - I never agreed with that statement and said it's up to the person doing the build to determine if it's worth it for them. Then much butthurt followed where people acted like I kicked their puppy.

You're really not going to unearth some nefarious reason for me posting in here, so if you really feel that emotional about the whole thing, just chalk it up to a misunderstanding of what I was saying. If some posters are going to post some snarky comments and throw stones, be prepared for a little coming back at you. Seems that second half is why some people have their panties in a twist.

[someguy2800]

Can we redirect the conversation back from "I don't know why people don't like it when you call them stupid" back to "should I buy this stud girdle on ebay to put on my M50?"

Don you have built a bunch of these things, whats your opnion on using a stud girdle on a high hp m50. Say were are building an m52 with a goal of 900 whp. Would you add one to the build? What in your experience suggests it is or is not needed.

[E36 HateR]

I did a bunch of research looking into crank girdles last year, I was going to run one with the s52 crank and rev to 7600, but then I decided to stay with the shorter stroke and keep it simple.

[Butters Stoch]

Can we redirect the conversation back from "I don't know why people don't like it when you call them stupid" back to "should I buy this stud girdle on ebay to put on my M50?"

Don you have built a bunch of these things, whats your opnion on using a stud girdle on a high hp m50. Say were are building an m52 with a goal of 900 whp. Would you add one to the build? What in your experience suggests it is or is not needed.

Don is retired, he ain't going to answer these loaded questions.

[Def]

Can we redirect the conversation back from "I don't know why people don't like it when you call them stupid" back to "should I buy this stud girdle on ebay to put on my M50?"

Don you have built a bunch of these things, whats your opnion on using a stud girdle on a high hp m50. Say were are building an m52 with a goal of 900 whp. Would you add one to the build? What in your experience suggests it is or is not needed.

It'll remain one of life's great mysteries...

I did a bunch of research looking into crank girdles last year, I was going to run one with the s52 crank and rev to 7600, but then I decided to stay with the shorter stroke and keep it simple.

The 2nd order bending mode is passed around 7000-7400 RPM for an S52. It wrecks stuff in short order unless you've spending exceedingly brief periods of time there due to torsional vibes. Main bearings, oil pumps, etc. A girdle can't help that much unfortunately.

[milKt]

Don is retired, he ain't going to answer these loaded questions.

Here he comes now.

[pbonsalb]

They make a great washer for the main cap screws while adding weight to the bottom end of the motor and lowering the cog of the car!!

In this application, I'm sure they provide a solution. The question is, to what?
Don

Don already gave his perspective.

[Butters Stoch]

Here he comes now.

I have a bone to pick with him. When I built my engine, I of course was bugging him for his experience and expertise. #1 he was always prompt and reliable to answer my questions within minutes. #2 He took the time to help and learn me on a few things I needed confirmation with.
To me this is uncalled for, unorthodox BFC behavior. No one should have the ability to call a well known and respected engine builder at all hours if the night without being compensated.

[TheJuggernaut]

I have a bone to pick with him. When I built my engine, I of course was bugging him for his experience and expertise. #1 he was always prompt and reliable to answer my questions within minutes. #2 He took the time to help and learn me on a few things I needed confirmation with.
To me this is uncalled for, unorthodox BFC behavior. No one should have the ability to call a well known and respected engine builder at all hours if the night without being compensated.

Yeah him and Perry need to GTFO, they don't belong. You too for that matter.

[Butters Stoch]

Yeah him and Perry need to GTFO, they don't belong. You too for that matter.

Although its an honor for you to put me in the same sentence with those 2 icons, I really am not a fan of "untouchables". Meaning, those that think they have some right to not help those in need. I understand people get busy, but it burns my ass when I know dam well people with an answer to someone's question just sits back and watches it unfold while they only choose to update " their thread " or play in OT with their buddies.
I for the most part have gone out of my way to help, mostly through text, and phone conversations. Helping those sort out their issues that clearly should be helped by a tuner or one getting paid. I do this cause I have been on the other side. I also know the value of a dollar and what goes into these builds. I would hate to watch someone blow up their crap cause I didn't want to help. Sure we can all say "well they should have learned first". But the fact of the matter is, these cars are cheap now, even building them are cheap. What's not cheap and has stayed consistent is detonation. That's the constant. Younger guys with a lot of energy are the future of e36 turbos. Just the fact that these haven't died out is great.
Don, Perry, Pbonsalb and other real die hard enthusiasts will always be there to help. They are the reasons why people are still interested in turboing these cars. Without having knowledge at your fingertips, people to reach out to when your stuck make you not want to take on the project. Having them in your backyard is even better.

When threads like this pop up, it makes the community seem divided. It makes the lurkers not want to open a thread cause they feel it will start a fight. It shows our ignorance, and reveals our lack of knowledge and oversized egos. Threads like this are the reason why guys like NickG don't login.


#Butters2020

[SM3]

Although its an honor for you to put me in the same sentence with those 2 icons, I really am not a fan of "untouchables". Meaning, those that think they have some right to not help those in need. I understand people get busy, but it burns my ass when I know dam well people with an answer to someone's question just sits back and watches it unfold while they only choose to update " their thread " or play in OT with their buddies.
I for the most part have gone out of my way to help, mostly through text, and phone conversations. Helping those sort out their issues that clearly should be helped by a tuner or one getting paid. I do this cause I have been on the other side. I also know the value of a dollar and what goes into these builds. I would hate to watch someone blow up their crap cause I didn't want to help. Sure we can all say "well they should have learned first". But the fact of the matter is, these cars are cheap now, even building them are cheap. What's not cheap and has stayed consistent is detonation. That's the constant. Younger guys with a lot of energy are the future of e36 turbos. Just the fact that these haven't died out is great.
Don, Perry, Pbonsalb and other real die hard enthusiasts will always be there to help. They are the reasons why people are still interested in turboing these cars. Without having knowledge at your fingertips, people to reach out to when your stuck make you not want to take on the project. Having them in your backyard is even better.

When threads like this pop up, it makes the community seem divided. It makes the lurkers not want to open a thread cause they feel it will start a fight. It shows our ignorance, and reveals our lack of knowledge and oversized egos. Threads like this are the reason why guys like NickG don't login.


#Butters2020

exactly!!!!