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    Are you going to watch F1 next year if the halo is rolled out?

    Serious question.

    I hate hate HATE it. I've given the FIA a pass for all their other regulatory nonsense, but the halo is a bridge too far, IMO.

    A big issue for me is that watching the F1 race together any given Sunday has become a real bonding event b/t my son and me. I'm loath to give that up. I don't want to watch on principle, but I probably will, and I'll hate myself for doing so.
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    I want to say no, but the reality is yes; at least for the first few races since, if nothing else, the F1 drought coming to an end is always exciting.

    We'll see what happens, after that. Voting with dollars is effective and I've already stopped buying merchandise. Could wind up disgusted with the new formula and enjoy it even less than I do this one.

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    I've been thinking about this as well but overall the direction F1 is heading to. I'm just losing interest in it for quite some time now. I haven't watched a lot of races this year too.



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    Will not watch, nor buy tickets, nor follow the sport.

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    Yes - it doesn't bother me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janders211 View Post
    Yes - it doesn't bother me at all.
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    I don't understand why it's such a deal breaker for some people.

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    Yes, I'll watch, but I still think it looks stupid and won't provide as much protection as the press likes to tout. It wouldn't have really prevented any of the rare head injuries in F1 for the last 20 years, so I question as to whether it's really needed.

    I think it's one of those "feel good" things more than an actual improvement to safety. Kinda like the low noses we currently have being for "safety."

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    The chances of deflection into unprotected body parts (being deflected down towards the neck/shoulders/chest instead of hitting the helmet) are greater. A piece of carbon fiber wing hitting a driver in the chest at 180mph is much more dangerous than the same piece hitting the driver's helmet. We saw at Spa 2 weekends ago a piece of front wing almost thrown over the catch fence.

    I don't think enough testing has been done to assure anyone that the safety benefits outweigh the risk factors. I don't even think they've tested for many risk factors - besides egress rules. I haven't read any scientific studies done. I've read some (a lot of prose) pieces but not much of any value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burninator View Post
    I don't understand why it's such a deal breaker for some people.
    Aesthetics matter to me. I don't want to watch ugly race cars.

    Granted, it's hard to make the case that the cars are lookers right now, but...everyone's got their tipping point, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burninator View Post
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    I don't understand why it's such a deal breaker for some people.

    Halo is another dagger in the heart of F1 by FIA. At some point it's time to step away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeBack View Post
    The chances of deflection into unprotected body parts (being deflected down towards the neck/shoulders/chest instead of hitting the helmet) are greater. A piece of carbon fiber wing hitting a driver in the chest at 180mph is much more dangerous than the same piece hitting the driver's helmet. We saw at Spa 2 weekends ago a piece of front wing almost thrown over the catch fence.

    I don't think enough testing has been done to assure anyone that the safety benefits outweigh the risk factors. I don't even think they've tested for many risk factors - besides egress rules. I haven't read any scientific studies done. I've read some (a lot of prose) pieces but not much of any value.

    Open wheel, open seat. If you think it's too dangerous then don't drive. That simple.
    This. All of this.

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    The craziest part of all this HALO BS is that it's a reaction to something that hasn't even happened (in modern F1)! There have been zero fatalities or permanent life-altering injuries in modern F1. And no, hitting a tractor has nothing to do with HALO, that was poor track safety and is no longer an issue.

    EVERYTHING about this is reacting to something so rare and theoretical that it hasn't even happened!! I'd understand if there would've been issues already, but there haven't! And not just deflections, with other issues too (like fumes, getting stuck, visibility etc.) the HALO will more likely CAUSE danger than prevent that yet-to-happen freak accident!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeBack View Post
    The chances of deflection into unprotected body parts (being deflected down towards the neck/shoulders/chest instead of hitting the helmet) are greater. A piece of carbon fiber wing hitting a driver in the chest at 180mph is much more dangerous than the same piece hitting the driver's helmet. We saw at Spa 2 weekends ago a piece of front wing almost thrown over the catch fence.

    I don't think enough testing has been done to assure anyone that the safety benefits outweigh the risk factors. I don't even think they've tested for many risk factors - besides egress rules. I haven't read any scientific studies done. I've read some (a lot of prose) pieces but not much of any value.

    Open wheel, open seat. If you think it's too dangerous then don't drive. That simple.
    100% agree.

    I'll probably at least watch the first couple of races to see if I can stand watching a bunch of giant flip flops driving around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roarf View Post
    flip flops
    At least they won't have to change the letter.

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    They should give the drivers GIANT helmets that are kept on with a combination of HANS devices and exploding bolts attached to the cockpit

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    Just attach friggin' laser beams to their friggin' heads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagneZium View Post
    The craziest part of all this HALO BS is that it's a reaction to something that hasn't even happened (in modern F1)! There have been zero fatalities or permanent life-altering injuries in modern F1. And no, hitting a tractor has nothing to do with HALO, that was poor track safety and is no longer an issue.

    EVERYTHING about this is reacting to something so rare and theoretical that it hasn't even happened!! I'd understand if there would've been issues already, but there haven't! And not just deflections, with other issues too (like fumes, getting stuck, visibility etc.) the HALO will more likely CAUSE danger than prevent that yet-to-happen freak accident!
    Even if the halo wouldn't have stopped it, Jules did die in the modern era of F1. Not sure how you can dispute that.

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    I mean that the Halo would've prevented absolutely zero accidents/deaths/serious injuries. An updated, corrected version of that sentence: "There have been zero fatalities of permanent life-altering injuries in modern F1 caused by lack of HALO". HALO wouldn't have solved anything, we haven't needed it at all.

    Especially until now there is no indication that it would prevent anything in today's F1 where tractors are not allowed on track without virtual safety car at the very least. Jules wouldn't have died with today's rules even without the HALO. And also most probably would've died back then even with the HALO.

    The only vague if or maybe is the case of Massa, because there's a minuscule chance that the Halo could've intercepted the spring. But even that is debatable: would it have hit the HALO? Would the HALO have made things worse? Also that was not a permanent life-altering injury AFAIK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3fuz View Post
    Probably, but I'll complain the whole time.
    Can I change my answer to this?

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