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    m70 supercharger install/questions

    been traveling abit lately so i havnt got to it much but here it is.
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    can i delete this fuel catch canister thing? whats its purpose and can i just delete the canister and leave the inlet hose hang down?
    just wondering because the extra room would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    can i delete this fuel catch canister thing? whats its purpose and can i just delete the canister and leave the inlet hose hang down?
    just wondering because the extra room would be nice.

    Your charcoal canister is in the wrong position if that's it's current location. It should be lower. And believe it or not I failed Smog 4yrs ago because mine was rusted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBobo View Post
    Your charcoal canister is in the wrong position if that's it's current location. It should be lower. And believe it or not I failed Smog 4yrs ago because mine was rusted out.

    ya sorry, i had moved it out of the way for test fit of supercharger. just wondering if i could delete the big canister part as it makes it kind of crowded.

    got the kit on the sales thread of this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    ya sorry, i had moved it out of the way for test fit of supercharger. just wondering if i could delete the big canister part as it makes it kind of crowded.

    got the kit on the sales thread of this forum.
    You need the charcoal canister(do not delete it), you will also need to install a one way check valve in the line leading up to it from the throttles because the manifold will be pressurized.
    Take more pics of your progress and post.

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    alright, i will leave it there. thanks ill install more tomorrow.

    here i had to grind the mount because it was rubbing the ac compressor. repainted after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    alright, i will leave it there. thanks ill install more tomorrow.

    here i had to grind the mount because it was rubbing the ac compressor. repainted after.
    Great progress so far! Keep us posted, also reach out to me when you get to injectors+tune.
    Cheers!

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    will do!

    ran into another issue with the mount yesterday, when installed with the idle pulley on the mount it completely hits the radiator hose.
    any ideas?
    chargertech told me that they have never had that happen. then i showed a picture and they said that they remember altering a radiator hose at one time but that it was a completely different set-up they did it with.
    they then told me to cut the hose in the middle and add an elbo to reroute it..

    i was looking into something like this if anyone has experience or suggestions...

    http://www.siliconeintakes.com/elect...ose-p-703.html


    this has me at a stand still for now until i decide whats best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    will do!

    ran into another issue with the mount yesterday, when installed with the idle pulley on the mount it completely hits the radiator hose.
    any ideas?
    chargertech told me that they have never had that happen. then i showed a picture and they said that they remember altering a radiator hose at one time but that it was a completely different set-up they did it with.
    they then told me to cut the hose in the middle and add an elbo to reroute it..

    i was looking into something like this if anyone has experience or suggestions...

    http://www.siliconeintakes.com/elect...ose-p-703.html

    this has me at a stand still for now until i decide whats best.
    That solution should work, its basically just an elbow extension, not a big deal.

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    ok ill try that, do you know the outer diameter of the radiator hose and the inner diameter of the elbow i should get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    ok ill try that, do you know the outer diameter of the radiator hose and the inner diameter of the elbow i should get?
    Not sure off top of my head, you may have to measure that hose.

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    alright, ill update if i figure anything out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    will do!

    ran into another issue with the mount yesterday, when installed with the idle pulley on the mount it completely hits the radiator hose.
    any ideas?
    chargertech told me that they have never had that happen. then i showed a picture and they said that they remember altering a radiator hose at one time but that it was a completely different set-up they did it with.
    they then told me to cut the hose in the middle and add an elbo to reroute it..

    i was looking into something like this if anyone has experience or suggestions...

    http://www.siliconeintakes.com/elect...ose-p-703.html


    this has me at a stand still for now until i decide whats best.
    That's not really what you want...
    Instead, route the offending hose over the other side of the smaller hose, cut it and install a metal elbow (matching the inside ID of your hose) pointing back to the other end. Clamp the two ends of your cut to the ends of your elbow.
    This gets you completely away from the idler pulley and doesn't create interference with anything else. -also, pretty much exactly what chargertech suggests
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartoonz View Post

    That's not really what you want...
    Instead, route the offending hose over the other side of the smaller hose, cut it and install a metal elbow (matching the inside ID of your hose) pointing back to the other end. Clamp the two ends of your cut to the ends of your elbow.
    This gets you completely away from the idler pulley and doesn't create interference with anything else. -also, pretty much exactly what chargertech suggests
    Sounds good thats the route i was planning on taking.
    Anyone have an idea what the inner diameter of the hose. Its radiator to thermostat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartoonz View Post
    are you sure it isn't already in that pile of parts you have?
    Am i sure what isnt with my parts?
    According to the company i shouldnt have this problem.
    They have only altered a hose for one application that is differnt than mine.
    Theres no other way but to move that hose.
    The kit doesnt have something to deal with it because its not supposed to be an issue.
    The company told me to cut and move the hose.
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    and i told you to cut and move the hose.. .so we are on the same page.
    You have a whole pile of parts there... some you don't even need, and some that look suspiciously like exactly what you need to re-route the hose. That's why I'm asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartoonz View Post
    and i told you to cut and move the hose.. .so we are on the same page.
    You have a whole pile of parts there... some you don't even need, and some that look suspiciously like exactly what you need to re-route the hose. That's why I'm asking.
    All the hoses are to small and the metal elbos are all way to big for the radiator hose.
    I can assure theres nothing that will fit that radiator hose id.
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    back with an update.
    went camping in yosemite for a week and got caught up in a few things.
    this supercharger is taking me way longer than is...

    got the hose out of the way of the supercharger guide pulley.

    now that i had time to get the belts of to fit the supercharger belt, the belt is about 3 inches from reaching the supercharger pulley.
    its to short!
    anyone know where i can get on abit larger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    back with an update.
    went camping in yosemite for a week and got caught up in a few things.
    this supercharger is taking me way longer than is...

    got the hose out of the way of the supercharger guide pulley.

    now that i had time to get the belts of to fit the supercharger belt, the belt is about 3 inches from reaching the supercharger pulley.
    its to short!
    anyone know where i can get on abit larger?
    Belt is easy, the last 4 numbers is the mm length, look up gates size catalog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon850 View Post

    Belt is easy, the last 4 numbers is the mm length, look up gates size catalog.
    I know the ribs and length just didn't know how much longer I'd need. Surely you guys don't know either without being here.

    Talked to the company, apparently I might have the upgraded version that deletes the viscous fan.

    If so I might need some help picking out an electric fan and help with where to wire and all that.

    I'll try that this time and write back here later with what I find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabenthusiast View Post
    ...Talked to the company, apparently I might have the upgraded version that deletes the viscous fan...
    Unless they found a way to magically delete the water pump, that shouldn't make any difference in belt length...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartoonz View Post

    Unless they found a way to magically delete the water pump, that shouldn't make any difference in belt length...

    Email from chargertech:

    "Could you try the belt without the visco coupler in it. Is it the right length then? Maybe the belt is for when the car is upgraded with an electrical fan."

    If since checked and the belt appears to be the right length when removed from visco.
    Now I need to figure out this fan delete...

    One of there kits they supply with a new altered water pump but my kit doesn't have one... I'll see tomarow what they have to say..
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