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    Unsuccessful scanning OBD1 E36 with ISTA on a laptop and generic ADS interface

    I have checked all my signals at the round 20pin connector. And I have all the signals that are supposed to be at the round 20 pin connector. I don't think the issue is with my car. Seems like an issue with software compatibility with these older BMW's. I tried with my ISTA and cables / ADS interface. And also tried with my friends ISTA, cables and ADS interface.

    After we were unsuccessful with both, we confirmed that both mine and his communicated just fine with his 2005 E46 330i.

    We both have our ISTA's running on Window's 10. My friend also tried scanning my car with his Windows 10 using INPA. No luck.

    Anyone have succsss scanning OBD 1 E36 with their BMW software ? Are you using DIS or ISTA ? What version of Windows are you using ?

    I'm kinda hoping to find someone who has found success with ISTA and the generic ADS interface, as I am told Windows 10 will not run DIS v.44 (VM ware)

    Apprecate any insight.

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    What exactly is your 'generic ADS' interface?
    ADS only works properly through a true serial port.
    Also, the ADS drivers only work on x86 (32-bit) Windows.
    Also, you need to be running EDIABAS 6.4.3 or 6.4.7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 328 Power 04 View Post
    What exactly is your 'generic ADS' interface?
    ADS only works properly through a true serial port.
    Also, the ADS drivers only work on x86 (32-bit) Windows.
    Also, you need to be running EDIABAS 6.4.3 or 6.4.7.
    I will run this information by my computer guy. Thank you. We are not using serial port and I believe we are on 64 bit. What exactly is our Generic ADS interface ?? ...Good question... LOL ..Since I am not a computer guy. IMO, if it's not a genuine BMW head, to me, it's generic. That being said, all I mean is that it's a cable or adapter that I bought off ebay. And my cable and adapter did work on E38. But I was using a different laptop that was Windows 7 and it was 32 bit. I may need to by an older laptop to be able to scan my E36.

    Are you able to scan your z3 and 328is ? Are you using ISTA or DIS with your serial port ? Or does this not even matter as long as what you mentioned above ? The computer talk is foreign to me. But it will make sense to my friend.

    I appreciate the help.
    Last edited by chrisshara; 08-20-2017 at 01:39 PM.

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    Yes, my Z3s and 328 (all 3 OBD2) are scannable with USB OBD cable, ADS if needed, or just my ICOM.

    But OBD1 era cars are completely different. Very limited code reporting, and everything you really need is available via the stomp test for engine codes. ISTA will be very limited on those, and it would be a high effort for very little reward.
    Last edited by 328 Power 04; 08-20-2017 at 10:34 PM.
    -Abel

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    Forgot to ask, what's your goal with ISTA and your obd1 car? Anything in particular you're trying to do?
    -Abel

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    - 2000 Z3: Many Mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 328 Power 04 View Post
    Forgot to ask, what's your goal with ISTA and your obd1 car? Anything in particular you're trying to do?
    I have ASC or ABS codes and I need to clear my SRS light. Also would like to check status requests for my (CVM) convertible top module.

    So it sounds to me like you are using ISTA on a 32 bit with the proper EDIABAS and you can communicate with OBD2 using a USB, serial port or ICOM.
    But since I a OBD1, I have to get a true serial port cable and run ISTA on a 32bit with the proper EDIABAS
    Last edited by chrisshara; 08-21-2017 at 03:14 PM.

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    That makes sense. I have never tried ISTA with ADS interface, but it should work. I have used DIS or INPA with my ADS and it works. No reason why ISTA shouldn't, when set up correctly. It will be good enough for code scanning and clearing.

    I generally use my ICOM with ISTA, for all BMWs.
    -Abel

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    - 2000 Z3: Many Mods.
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    - 2014 328d Wagon, self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs
    - 2019 M2 Competition, self-tuned, 504whp
    - 2016 Mini Cooper S

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    Quote Originally Posted by 328 Power 04 View Post
    That makes sense. I have never tried ISTA with ADS interface, but it should work. I have used DIS or INPA with my ADS and it works. No reason why ISTA shouldn't, when set up correctly. It will be good enough for code scanning and clearing.

    I generally use my ICOM with ISTA, for all BMWs.
    I don't know much that is specific and or echnical about these chinese ADS interface cables. But I have a black one for K-CAN and a Clear one for D-CAN. And mine have worked on everything OBD2. Even the '00 E38 when using the round connector under the hood. But when I scanned the E38, it was a long time ago and I was using DIS v.44 with VM Ware on Windows 7 (32 bit). I no longer have that laptop, nor 32 bit, nor Windows 7. So,my friend might have to rig me up with something old school so I can work with my car.

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    Don't mean to wake up the old thread zombies. But I had the opportunity to use my software to try to scan an unmolested 1998 Z3 with 25,000 miles on it and my software will not communicate.

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    Ista will not work with ads cable. If need these old cars get dis is probably cheapest. For Ista Need icom and 20 pin works just fine.

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