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    Steering wheel vibration rattle at idle

    I've developed a very small vibration in the steering wheel (something like the feeling of an electric toothbrush vibration) when the car is at a stop, in gear and particularly with the A/C running. There is also a rattling sound that seems to be coming from under the dash during the vibration but I think it's actually in the engine bay. I'm guessing it's a problem in the hydraulics in the steering system...low pressure issue? Pump? Clogged hoses?

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvjake2 View Post
    I've developed a very small vibration in the steering wheel (something like the feeling of an electric toothbrush vibration) when the car is at a stop, in gear and particularly with the A/C running. There is also a rattling sound that seems to be coming from under the dash during the vibration but I think it's actually in the engine bay. I'm guessing it's a problem in the hydraulics in the steering system...low pressure issue? Pump? Clogged hoses?

    Any ideas?
    What about the engine mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon850 View Post
    What about the engine mounts?
    Just replaced engine mounts and trans mounts. It was doing this before that.

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    What is the RPM at idle when this problem occurs? Below a certain RPM you will feel each pulse of the PS pump, especially if it is under load.
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    Thanks, Tim. I had the same thought and tried to determine if rpm was the culprit.

    The weird thing was when I moved the steering wheel 5 degrees to the right or the left the vibration and noise stopped. There were no leaks but I checked all the fittings for loose connections. Nothing. I started thinking that I had some issues with the power steering pump not supplying enough pressure. I have no equipment to test the pressure so I took the car to AVUS Autosports in Glendale, CA. They took me in right away without appointment (nice).

    Well, I was partially correct...it was in the power steering system, just not what I expected.

    When AVUS called back (within an hour) the first question they asked me was, "Who polished your power steering hose?" I thought that was an odd question but I said that I did when cleaning cosmoline off the engine compartment. I cleaned the cosmoline off the ps aluminum lines and then polished with Nevr Dull, the same stuff used in the Navy to polish everything that isn't painted grey. Turns out I had slightly distorted the hose, that seemingly happened when I polished the line, and when pushed back (an 1/8") into line the vibration and noise stopped. Amazing.

    I'll continue cleaning and polishing but with a more careful approach.

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    How strange!
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