track days..new car and electric nannies.......GVC goes back on the retraction

[jrkoupe]

this is the beginning of something for sure.....

and as an enthusiastic instructor, I kinda agree.......but its kinda not fair to real car folks that want to track a newer BMW


http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...its-trackdays/

[aeronaut]

As an instructor, I don't know what to do if I sit down in a car that has these nanny's. I have an event this weekend with the SCCA. Maybe I'll ask if they've thought about it. What a bee's nest.

[TeamDFL]

I know jack squat about whatever ban GVC may or may not have allegedly instituted but I trust GVC regarding on track safety more than most clubs. Don't forget that GVC also played a notable role in forcing BMW to fix the Engine of Damocles.

[jrkoupe]

a bees nest.......maybe so.


I know for yrs, that many clubs had specific rules about traction controls etc etc...either they must stay on or they must stay off....it really varied.

But now there are just so many elec restrictions....

this could get ugly.

[Evergreen Dan]

Old news. GVC banned robocars -> BMW NA blows gasket -> BMW CCA national blows gasket -> GVC gets involuntary colonoscopy -> GVC retracts ban and replaces it with a policy that marks such cars with a sticker and requires the systems to be disabled.

IMO the GVC ban was a step too far and the current policy is sound.

Note that national set a "maximum standard" -- a safety standard that a chapter cannot exceed. It also set a policy that chapters can't set policies.

[lelandr]

I have no idea how to manipulate these systems. I usually trust students to take care of this stuff. Had a student with a very modified '12 M3 last weekend, and he played with the settings for a while until I found someone to set the car up for him.

Couldn't tell you how it was set up. Once we got help, the car behaved nicely & the student was able to do very well and was naturally much faster.

There's such a variety of cars coming to events that you could never know how to set them all. Would be nice if the instructor assignment included how to set the car to showroom default.

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[gobuffs]

Showroom default will have the feature on. A 2012 M3 will not have these automatic braking and turning accident avoidance features.

On a BMW that has these features- there will be a button next to the hazard button. A green circle on this button means the feature is all on. Yellow means some on (user configurable. No color means system is off.

On a newer Porsche....the way to tell if the car has the feature is if there appears to be a camera type lens in the middle of the bumper opening the car has these features. There are settings you can dig into. I have also heard that tape over the camera lens will turn the system off.