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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonaudi View Post
    Forum consensus is great and all, I also like to rely on my own limited ignoring everyone else's experiences.
    FTFY.

    Quote Originally Posted by bostonaudi View Post
    Multi-axis and twisting describe same phenomena - movement beyond simple up/down, left/right or in/out. Make sense? If in doubt there are good treatises on the subject.
    Absolutely not. Torsional stress is entirely specific thing. You can have X-axis movement and Y-axis movement and no torsional stress, and vice versa. Completely wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by bostonaudi View Post
    Cheap Meyle or HD it's all coming off same assembly line and likely same part, just different box.
    Again you're making stuff up from your track instructor high horse based on your theories not proven facts.
    Totally and utterly wrong. Not my job to prove to you what is well documented fact. Different parts. In the cases of oil-filled parts the HD's are solid rubber.

    Quote Originally Posted by bostonaudi View Post
    In any case great to hear your squeaky (err heavily greased) poly is working well, again, it's unnecessary as a solution for shimmy free braking.
    Again. No. No squeaks whatsoever. Just like scads of other guys who installed theirs well and have no issues. It's widely documented that most urethane bushings should be properly lubed to work properly, and aide in long life etc. So if you're taking shots at that you're just showing that your Mr. Track Instructor credentials are pretty weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargrinder View Post
    God you're so arrogant it's a thing of beauty.



    FTFY.



    Absolutely not. Torsional stress is entirely specific thing. You can have X-axis movement and Y-axis movement and no torsional stress, and vice versa. Completely wrong.



    Again you're making stuff up from your track instructor high horse based on your theories not proven facts.
    Totally and utterly wrong. Not my job to prove to you what is well documented fact. Different parts. In the cases of oil-filled parts the HD's are solid rubber.



    Again. No. No squeaks whatsoever. Just like scads of other guys who installed theirs well and have no issues. It's widely documented that most urethane bushings should be properly lubed to work properly, and aide in long life etc. So if you're taking shots at that you're just showing that your Mr. Track Instructor credentials are pretty weak.
    Ah, so when one disagrees with the "consensus", one is arrogant? Gotcha. You must also be a disciple of the fake news crowd. If something doesn't agree with the accepted consensus, it's fake. Intellectually lazy, at best. I believe we're already getting enough of this nonsense from our president.

    And again you roll out the track thing, wearying and boring, another non sequitur and cheap shot, you appear to be quite skilled at this.

    HD Chinese rubber, sure, again I'll stick with Lemforder. If Chinese parts are so obviously superior, prove it. I'll be here all week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pleiades View Post
    Settle down, boys ....
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    Meyle HD is different than Meyle. I have the Meyle HD tension strut for approx. 30k miles and still going strong. The Meyle HD sway bar links also are wearing very well. Meyle HD is the preferred subframe bushing for the touring model also. Known fact and weakness is the liquid filled Lemforder bushing's.

    You also might wanna check you Lemforder country of origin since some of the E39 parts are made in CHINA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonaudi View Post
    Ah, so when one disagrees with the "consensus", one is arrogant? Gotcha. You must also be a disciple of the fake news crowd. If something doesn't agree with the accepted consensus, it's fake. Intellectually lazy, at best. I believe we're already getting enough of this nonsense from our president.

    And again you roll out the track thing, wearying and boring, another non sequitur and cheap shot, you appear to be quite skilled at this.

    HD Chinese rubber, sure, again I'll stick with Lemforder. If Chinese parts are so obviously superior, prove it. I'll be here all week.
    Wow man, GG's right, liberal or not. What Grinder's pointing out are facts long proven on here, and we've been through it all. Your Meyle and Meyle HD argument is f'kin laughable. Most of Lemforder E39 bits are now mostlyl made in China. He's right, your facts are full of holes. Stop acting like you know everything.
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    Lemforder's quality are questionable nowadays.



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    I heard they were recycling used ribbed latex for the new bushings and filling them with KY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBAD530i View Post
    I heard they were recycling used ribbed latex for the new bushings and filling them with KY.
    False. Another fake news scam by the lamestream forumtards.

    Everybody knows it's really used dill does they melt down and fill with astroglide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargrinder View Post
    False. Another fake news scam by the lamestream forumtards.

    Everybody knows it's really used dill does they melt down and fill with astroglide.
    I thought those were just the race version. Much better ride for a track day when you're really pushing it. The ones I got are more for daily driving.






















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    Replace the crappy aftermarket brake parts with factory oem real genuine bmw brake pads and rotors, it's the brakes that are causing the problem

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    False. Only chillis and tacos work.



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    Whoa, I leave for a day and come back to an entertaining back-and-forth that finally ends with tacos and ass-smacking! I should start more controversial threads!!

    Parts are ordered, but it'll take a week to get here: Pagid rotors, Stoptech street pads for better bite, new power steering hoses (that we manufacture, and I actually built), üro center link, tie rods, idler arm, and sway bar end links. I actually handled the üro parts for an e46 vs. the Lemförder parts and they looked to be vastly superior in quality of the rubber parts and corrosion plating, as well as the grease inside. I wonder when Lemförder switched up their suppliers?
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    Ooof. URO for the steering gear? OK... let us know how that goes. Bostrackstructorman is NOT gonna be happy about that, let me tell you!!!!
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    That's one hell of a taco! What's that equate to? 8 to 10 flushes? Jeezuz

    Hey Pussey, üro center link, tie rods, idler arm, and sway bar end links??!? Jeez, this threads never gunna end!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargrinder View Post

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    Ooof. URO for the steering gear? OK... let us know how that goes. Bostrackstructorman is NOT gonna be happy about that, let me tell you!!!!

    Oh well, he's not me, and he (probably) doesn't work for an auto OE/aftermarket parts and materials manufacturer like me. If the parts get here and they aren't good quality, I'll send them back for some FEBI replacements.

    On that note, it's lunch time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbussey View Post
    Oh well, he's not me, and he (probably) doesn't work for an auto OE/aftermarket parts and materials manufacturer like me. If the parts get here and they aren't good quality, I'll send them back for some FEBI replacements.

    On that note, it's lunch time!
    That's right, its your car, bolt whatever you please to it.

    URO wouldn't be first choice for those parts. A good source of info on parts quality comes from the people who install parts professionally, ask the independent German shops if they use such parts. Sure, it'll work for a while, but for how long? In 30k you may find yourself replacing the center again, hopefully not. I like the EuroFCP website, points out the OEM stuff vs the cheap stuff.

    For the brakes the advise to stick to OEM good, Textar etc. That's how I solved my E39 shimmy.

    I've used Meyle HD in the past for RTAB bushings, they didn't strike me as anything special, has anyone ever done a durometer test on their parts?
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    For the 27th time: BMW spec'd oil filled bushings in a number of places on these cars and the oil leaks out with age. Not sure you're processing this. So for the applications discussed the HD improvement is that their versions are not oil filled. So it's not at all about durometer, it's because they are solid rubber inside and not oil filled that they work and last much better. This is also the difference between Meyle normal (Oe style) and HD.

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