Okay, lets not clutter up this thread with the Baku incident please and let's just move on with the upcoming race in the next two weekends. If you still intend to talk about it then talk in the other thread and not here.
Drivers
Championship Points
Sebastian Vettel 153 Lewis Hamilton 139 Valtteri Bottas 111 Daniel Ricciardo 92 Kimi Raikkonen 73 Max Verstappen 45 Sergio Perez 44 Esteban Ocon 35 Carlos Sainz 29 Felipe Massa 20 Nico Hulkenberg 18 Lance Stroll 17 Kevin Magnussen 11 Romain Grosjean 10 Pascal Wehrlein 5 Daniil Kvyatt 4 Fernando Alonso 2 Jolyon Palmer 0 Marcus Ericsson 0 Stoffel Vandoorne 0 Antonio Giovinazzi 0
Constructors
Championship Points
Mercedes 250 Ferrari 226 RBR 137 Force India 79 Williams 37 Toro Rosso 33 Haas 21 Renault 18 Sauber 5 Mclaren 2
VETEL sUX
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I think Vettel is going to be sent to the back of the grid as a penalty, the way everyone is talking. Hamilton wins, Ricciardo, Bottas. Kimi clashes with Verstappen, 10 second stop go for him.....
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Kimi will contact someone, that's for sure.
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Vettel penalized.
Ham, Bot, Rai.
Really hoping Ferrari, heck anyone, can find some more power to take Merc...
this Vettel - hamilton deal is very similar to the Rossi vs MMarquez in Motogp, where Rossi was penalized by having to start from the back of the grid/
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Well clearly Vettel is a racist, committed a hate crime, tried to kill Hamilton so he should be locked up for 20 years in solitary confinement.
Not to mention he apparently should be exorcised too.
BMWs are fun in the snow too...
This whole thing is so ridiculous, and being blown completely out of proportion in true 2017 fashion. Austria needs to go ahead and happen, as it seems like getting to the next race weekend is the only thing that will end this madness.
People are still upset, furious, and still talking about the incident. I honestly have no care whether he gets a race ban or face more punishment. It's not like the championship is over yet. We're only half way through. He could come back and grab his fifth title and rank alongside the great Fangio. Or Lewis win his fourth title. For all I care the is battle to continue.
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Nice press conference. The demon Vettel finally admits fault
So 2021 may see new engines. Supposedly twin turbos and making the engines lighter than the current engines weighing up-to 145kg+.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/2129...e848f8ea271dde
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I once said this back in one of 2012 thread that like Le mans F1 should also have the freedom with their own ways of making power. Le mans have had from I4 to V4 to 120* V6 to V8 engines coupled with some electric motor either driven off from the flywheel or from the turbos or from another reusable energy source. It made the racing a lot more interesting, entertaining, and there was really good competition back then and it is still now. I wouldn't mind seeing the return of more than one configuration of cylinder block and the number of cylinders. I would graciously welcome it.
Ferrari engine boss split, maybe going to Honda?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...1-engine-chief
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"What I found was that the guys who had worked in the third generation project [from the late 1990s] who had come from the second generation [1980s] had very good knowledge of F1 and what it takes," said Szafnauer via Autosport.
"They were able to put the programme together in order to compete at the highest level.
"I remember when Takeo Kiuchi, who was [Ayrton] Senna and [Alain] Prost's race engineer came in, within two or three years we had the lightest and most powerful V10 engine.
"He knew what it took it and he did it. We ended up with 968bhp and 88kg, which was just a little bit lighter than the BMW and a little bit more powerful.
"What they are lacking this time around is that experience of what it takes.
maybe in qualifying mode?
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Wait, which era is he talking about? 2000's? Then sure they definitely made a lot of power especially in the years of 2004-05. The 1989-90's? I'm not so sure about those numbers.
Honda were barely able to break the 800hp barrier, and so were the Renault's too. Both engine manufacturers were peaking up to 700+ hp. Highest record I know was around ~740 hp from Renault. When Honda switched from V10's to V12's in 1991 their power band dropped back down initially to 650bhp and was apparently slower than the predecessors of late 1989 and 1990. It took a while to rise back to the top of their rivals which was Renault only. Yet again the engines were still in the region of 800+ bhp range.
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Maybe in the qualifying mode did they turned up every engine parameter to make ~900hp.
Somewhere on YouTube, there is video of Honda putting what I believe is a 2001 engine through a one-lap Suzuka simulation and, if I recall correctly, the dyno needle does inch past the 900 mark. No idea what mode it may have been in.
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