I wonder what a 97 M73 23K perfect / mint condition, CSI kit, black on black will $$$ bring :-) Still smell new inside :-)
Bought my black on black '97 M73 car with CSi kit with 83k miles in 2010 for $20k. I'd imagine your car (one of only 363) has to be one of the lowest mileage M73 cars out there. On BaT I would think the car should break the $30k mark, maybe even $35k. If it was a rare color, I think the above numbers would be the baseline.
2006 R53 JCW (British Racing Green) - 1994 E31 840Ci 6spd (AVUS Blue)
2021 F56 JCW (Rebel Green) - 2000 E38 740i Sport (Titanium Silver)
2017 F26 X4 M40i (Carbon Black) - 2007 E91 328iT (Deep Green)
2012 E82 135i M Sport (Marrakesh Brown) - 2015 E84 X1 (Cashmere Silver)
2005 E53 X5 3.0i Sport (Kalahari Beige) - 2000 E36/7 M Roadster (Oxford Green)
2000 E38 740i Sport (Oxford Green) - 1999 E36 M3 Coupe (Fern Green)
1995 E31 840Ci Canadian (Oxford Green) - 2000 E36/8 M Coupe (Oxford Green)
2004 E46 330Ci (Oxford Green) - 2001 E36/8 Z3 3.0i Coupe (Oxford Green)
2002 E39 525i Sport (Oxford Green) - 2002 E36/7 M Roadster (Oxford Green)
2001 E53 X5 3.0i Sport (Oxford Green) - 2007 E63 M6 (Silver Grey)
1995 E31 840Ci (Oxford Green) - 2006 E86 M Coupe (Sepang Bronze)
2001 E39 530i Sport (Aspen Silver) - 2009 E92 M3 (Space Grey)
2001 E38 740i Sport (Sahara Beige) - 2008 E92 M3 (Melbourne Red)
2000 E38 740i Sport Canadian (Sahara Beige) - 1997 E31 850Ci (Jet Black)
Board Member of SoCalEights (Marketing, Web Development & Social Media), Vice President: BMWCCA/E31 Chapter, www.cartiologyfilms.com
Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
This may possibly be the highest priced 850CSi we've seen.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/c...296405671.html
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
Board Member of SoCalEights (Marketing, Web Development & Social Media), Vice President: BMWCCA/E31 Chapter, www.cartiologyfilms.com
Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
If it sells for even $100k less than that, I'll seriously need to increase my agreed insurance value.
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
im pretty sure thats a joke. there is no USA spec csi on earth worth even 6 digits let alone a 3 owner silver one for 230k. cherry hill is like the bell air of NJ so this guy has no clue about the value of money. if someone is unfortunate enough to get conned into paying more than 60-70k for this car there an absolute fool, not even alpina 5.7's are worth what hese asking. this car is worth closer to 23 k than 230 k, thats fact. this guy is a scammer for even asking that kind of money and its hacks like him that ruin the car trade, it still has the "dumbo ears" on it for christ sake. and im actually pulling for csi's to skyrocket cause my 6 speed shoots right up with it.
Last edited by 6speeder; 09-08-2017 at 01:40 AM.
All the US CSi's came with dumbo ears
'91 Dinan 860 Stage III (new 6L engine)
'91 Dinan 850 TT stage III (brand new engine) 21st Century Tech meets 18th Century Dinan...
'91 850i 6sp (mint) (sold)
'90 Dinan 750iL TT stage III (Guido - The Beast)
'94 850 CSi The Detroit Auto Show car (restored to factory perfect) (sold)
'96 850Ci, The George Carlin car
''73 3.0 csi, '08 535i, '03 X5 4.6is
...and a few other non BMW cars
i know, im saying they should have been swapped out by now for the more desirable m sport ones. my point was its a us spec csi which had alot of things removed. the euro spec came with m sport mirrors, smoked turn lenses, engine oil cooler, floating brake rotors, and of course the ahk. while us spec got m door handles.
Thing is, keeping the US cars stock seems to preserve value though. While I agree that the euro mirrors and lenses are a nice upgrade, I understand why many do not do it. The US cars got more wood too... and at least one CSI came from the factory with BMW Individual handles...for whatever that's worth. But still, the top of the market cars are unmolested and carry the original equipment.
'91 Dinan 860 Stage III (new 6L engine)
'91 Dinan 850 TT stage III (brand new engine) 21st Century Tech meets 18th Century Dinan...
'91 850i 6sp (mint) (sold)
'90 Dinan 750iL TT stage III (Guido - The Beast)
'94 850 CSi The Detroit Auto Show car (restored to factory perfect) (sold)
'96 850Ci, The George Carlin car
''73 3.0 csi, '08 535i, '03 X5 4.6is
...and a few other non BMW cars
In my opinion, the US-CSi's should be worth the sams as the Euro one's. They're pretty much the same cars. Their "options" outweigh one another into equality; plus the US spec was made in much fewer numbers so that puts it straight head to head with The Euro one's in terms of value.
Board Member of SoCalEights (Marketing, Web Development & Social Media), Vice President: BMWCCA/E31 Chapter, www.cartiologyfilms.com
Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
Let's hope he gets it.
Tend to disagree ...... real csi is EU version (first version on the market), US version is a trimmed down version (no ahk, no brembo brakes, no sport seats, no extra oil coolers, no csi mirrors and smoked signal lenses) only extra is the wood trim (an option on the EU version).
Yes lower numbers but not as good (the lack of AHK and weaker brakes is very noticable, no extra oil coolers...... USA csi was never designed for performance).
But time will tell......I might be wrong.
BMW 850 CSI march 1994 (EU spec), SOLD. https://www.classiccars-forsale.com/...94-bmw-850csi/
BMW 850 CSI november 1994 (EU spec)
Performance from the '90's ! LOL
BMW 850 CSI march 1994 (EU spec), SOLD. https://www.classiccars-forsale.com/...94-bmw-850csi/
BMW 850 CSI november 1994 (EU spec)
Sorry brother. I've driven both and they are EXACTLY the same. You make it sound as if Euro CSi was made to win Formula 1 while US CSi is a Chevy Sprint. A close friend of mine has a Euro CSi while I have the US-Spec myself so I drive them both often. The horse power and torque are the same. The AHK makes no difference unless you're on a race track (and how often do any of us do that?). Better breaks have nothing to do with better performance. They help you stop better not drive faster. The CSi mirrors are not part of the original design but rather a hyped up "after thought" for the CSi which came from M5 and M3 cars of the era. The smoked ftp's don't help the car go faster and don't think extra oil cooling is going to help the Euro CSi become a Le Mans champion either. In general, I've seen the US CSi's being better cared for than Euro one's. Many of them are in show room quality and have lower miles. In my opinion the wood trim makes the interior of the car look much more beautiful than the plastic trim; and it's very expensive mind you.
Overall, I love both versions and plan to own a Euro CSi one day too. They are magnificent cars, regardless of their tiny differences.
Last edited by Alec Cartio; 09-08-2017 at 11:25 AM.
Board Member of SoCalEights (Marketing, Web Development & Social Media), Vice President: BMWCCA/E31 Chapter, www.cartiologyfilms.com
Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
TT Pic.jpg Starting to make me wonder what these are doing in value?
re read it, thats not what i wrote. i wrote its worth CLOSER to 23 than 230, to show just how crazy this guys price is, and at the end said 60-70k (which is still very high considering just a few years ago this car was 30k). you say its worth 100 so your actually agreeing with me, 100 is closer to 23 than 230.
clubE31 said it perfectly. my point was its a us spec which doesnt have ahk or floating rotors, the ahk is probally the sickest option for the e31 and a working one today is as rare as hens teeth. this car even if it was a euro csi with working ahk, wouldnt even be worth half of what hese asking, hese just trying to scam.
@ cartoonz. you know im a purist so if was lucky enough to own a us spec csi i would change ONLY the mirrors, and put on the 2-piece bbs style 5's if the car didnt already have them.
forgott it doesnt have the sports seats either, no adjustable knee or side bolsters.
Last edited by 6speeder; 09-08-2017 at 11:13 AM.
Gentlemen, please, no personal jabs.
04M3 TiAg 69k slick-top 3 pedal
99M3 Cosmos 61k S50B32 euro 6Spd
88M3 AW 43k miles Project FS
WTB: 3.5" Eurosport/Conforti CAI
Well that was slightly awkward...
Time to converge back onto the topic of the thread. So how about those E31 values?
Board Member of SoCalEights (Marketing, Web Development & Social Media), Vice President: BMWCCA/E31 Chapter, www.cartiologyfilms.com
Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
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