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Thread: Lean code p2096- post catalyst fuel trim system too lean

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    Lean code p2096- post catalyst fuel trim system too lean

    130k miles, 2006 bmw 530i n52. When driving around town the car is normal never getting a lean code but anytime I drive down the highway at speed and am very light on the throttle I receive this code then it goes away in 2 to 3 days then comes back when I get back on highway. The code never comes up below 60.
    Kinda stumped as how's it is lean after a converter. And I'm thinking if it was a MAF it would affect both banks. All short term and long term fuel trims are withing -2 and 3 on freeze fram data so I'm stuck on this one. Please help if you can.

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    What is the actual code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoZandrini View Post
    What is the actual code?
    Po2096 the same code in the title posting

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    one thing that'll help with troubleshooting is the actual BMW code, as opposed to the P-code - have you had the car scanned with a BMW diagnostic tool yet?
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    No idk where to get one, please dont force me to the stealership. iv used a snap on obd 2 reader but it's not for euro cars, it mostly dose only American cars, I need a new set of keys or newer program. And iv also used a few other readers but still that's the code that comes up. Don't have access to bmw scan tool.

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    oh my - stealership? you are going to make friends fast here.

    many of the folks that will likely help you in this forum work at dealerships - just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowpuck View Post
    oh my - stealership? you are going to make friends fast here.

    many of the folks that will likely help you in this forum work at dealerships - just FYI.

    It will be ok. That's not the topic of the thread. Lol

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    ok - just thought i'd give you the lay of the land and let you know that's considered a derogatory term here.

    there's plenty of places that can read codes on a BMW with BMW software. heck, a bit of research and you can build your own computer to do it. many here have found the p codes to be grossly inaccurate. so, you may be asked to get a scan with some other gear.

    what's the current state of the vehicle maintenance wise? how old are the o2 sensors - both pre/post cat? lean codes often point toward intake leaks someplace - has a smoke test been done to check for leaks?
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    O2 sensor as far as I know are the originals, I bought the car 10k ago and had no problems till now. All maintenance is all up to date, could a oil leak in my oil filter cap suck in air and cause it to be lean? My cap leaks oil from the gasket I ordered a new one yesterday. Have not performed a smoke test but engine is sounder except for the oil leak
    Where could I get it scanned at?

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    at 130k, at least the primary o2 sensors are due for replacement. that engine tends to develop air leaks - especially in the CCV and intake hoses. a smoke test is really the only way to find leaks - as many will be so small they can't be seen.

    most good BMW independent shops will provide scans - sometimes for a fee. also, the local chapter of the BMW car club often has tools available to members; or other members with the scan tools necessary. I'd look into that as well.

    The potential causes for that code run a long list from low fuel pressure/clogged filter (likely due for replacement anyway), a bad cat, to a bad o2 sensor, etc....

    i'll let some of the other experts chime in - perhaps they've run into this code and have some more detailed ideas. i'd really want to see the BMW code info....
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    Thank you I'll look around for a scanner to try to pull the info up. What specific values are you interested in so I can retain them

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    start with any trouble codes stored - including the description accompanying the code.

    are you a BMW club member? If not, join and check with your local chapter. they'll know the good shops in the area, and also may have access to the tools needed.
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    Shadow22, shadowpuck has given you the very finest information....including the part about people on this forum disliking the implications of "stealership" Please note that I do not work at a dealership - in fact, they are my competition -- but you should be aware that these are fine, honest, and extremely well trained and well equipped people. Whether you choose to go there for your work or not, no one here will care - but please don't be so grossly disrespectful to a bunch of great people you've never met, and who are on this forum to help people....for free.

    I highly recommend a smoke test of the intake /crankcase vent system, and having the codes read with a diagnostic device that can read the BMW codes, not OBD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwdirtracer View Post
    Shadow22, shadowpuck has given you the very finest information....including the part about people on this forum disliking the implications of "stealership" Please note that I do not work at a dealership - in fact, they are my competition -- but you should be aware that these are fine, honest, and extremely well trained and well equipped people. Whether you choose to go there for your work or not, no one here will care - but please don't be so grossly disrespectful to a bunch of great people you've never met, and who are on this forum to help people....for free.

    I highly recommend a smoke test of the intake /crankcase vent system, and having the codes read with a diagnostic device that can read the BMW codes, not OBD.
    Thanks for the help, sorry didn't mean for that word to offend so many people. I'll look into getting them codes read because they are permanently stored as far as I know correct?

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    yup, stored codes will be kept in the system.
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    Hope this helps

    otor Control:
    Engine / Motor
    Fault: Lambda probe front catalyst, adjustment control
    Code: 2C31
    Fault: Control input-VANOS Bank2
    Code: 2A82
    Fault: Lambda probe front catalyst, adjustment control
    Code: 2C6B
    Fault: Accelerator pedal and brake pedal module
    Code: 2F8F
    Fault: :Mixture Control: mixture too lean
    Code: 2A2E
    Fault: :Mixture Control 2: mixture too lean
    Code: 2A2F
    Fault: 02 PreCat sensor system check, bank 1
    Code: 2C2B
    Fault: variable intake control motor
    Code: 2AAB
    ABS / DSC / Brake:
    Dynamische Stabilitaets Kontrolle / DSC
    Fault: :Brake disc wipers
    Code: 5ED2
    Fault: Brake pad wear Error: Front
    Code: 5F12
    Fault: Brake pad wear Error: Check-rear sensor
    Code: 5F15
    Airbag:
    Advanced Crash and Safety Management (ACSM)
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Transmission Control:
    Transmission / Getriebe GS 19
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Instrument cluster:
    Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
    Fault: Terminal shutdown
    Code: A559
    Fault: Debug Info Combi
    Code: A557
    Fault: level actuator
    Code: 9319
    Central info display / Zentrales Display
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Light/Rain Control:
    Rain/light sensor / Regen-Lichtsensor RLS
    Fault: sorry, unknown fault
    Code: DA44
    Light / Licht
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Heating / AC:
    Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Immobilizer System:
    CAS
    Fault: Signal detection error rate
    Code: A0B5
    Fault: Communication errors
    Code: A114
    Park distance control:
    Cruise Control:
    Sunroof / Roof:
    Sunroof / Schiebedach
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Audio/Navi/Communication:
    Phone / Telefon
    Fault: GPS module fault
    Code: A36B
    Fault: Communication with the airbag SG disturbed
    Code: A375
    Fault: Error in the Bluetooth BT interface
    Code: A379
    Fault: Ring break diagnosis error
    Code: D690
    Digital Satellite-Tuner USA
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Seats:
    Seats / Sitze
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Seats / Sitze
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Systems:
    Gateway
    Fault: Mirror heating error
    Code: 93B2
    Steering column switch / Lenkstockschalter
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe
    Fault: Over-temperature stage 1
    Code: 629A
    Car Communication Computer CCC
    Fault: Message failure
    Code: E18D
    MASK
    Fault: Error in the antenna power supply
    Code: ABCA
    Center-Konsole
    Fault: Steering column module: initialized position data
    Code: 9FED
    Anti-theft alarm system:
    Interior protection / Innenraumschutz
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Theft alarm / Diebstahl Warnanlage
    Fault: Fault in the battery
    Code: 9D12
    Chassis:
    Central Control / Zentrale Bedieneinheit
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Body:
    Car Body Module
    ECU OK, no Fault Code

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    otor Control:
    Engine / Motor
    Fault: Lambda probe front catalyst, adjustment control
    Code: 2C31
    Fault: Control input-VANOS Bank2
    Code: 2A82
    Fault: Lambda probe front catalyst, adjustment control
    Code: 2C6B
    Fault: Accelerator pedal and brake pedal module
    Code: 2F8F
    Fault: :Mixture Control: mixture too lean
    Code: 2A2E
    Fault: :Mixture Control 2: mixture too lean
    Code: 2A2F
    Fault: 02 PreCat sensor system check, bank 1
    Code: 2C2B
    Fault: variable intake control motor
    Code: 2AAB
    ABS / DSC / Brake:
    Dynamische Stabilitaets Kontrolle / DSC
    Fault: :Brake disc wipers
    Code: 5ED2
    Fault: Brake pad wear Error: Front
    Code: 5F12
    Fault: Brake pad wear Error: Check-rear sensor
    Code: 5F15
    Airbag:
    Advanced Crash and Safety Management (ACSM)
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Transmission Control:
    Transmission / Getriebe GS 19
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Instrument cluster:
    Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
    Fault: Terminal shutdown
    Code: A559
    Fault: Debug Info Combi
    Code: A557
    Fault: level actuator
    Code: 9319
    Central info display / Zentrales Display
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Light/Rain Control:
    Rain/light sensor / Regen-Lichtsensor RLS
    Fault: sorry, unknown fault
    Code: DA44
    Light / Licht
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Heating / AC:
    Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Immobilizer System:
    CAS
    Fault: Signal detection error rate
    Code: A0B5
    Fault: Communication errors
    Code: A114
    Park distance control:
    Cruise Control:
    Sunroof / Roof:
    Sunroof / Schiebedach
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Audio/Navi/Communication:
    Phone / Telefon
    Fault: GPS module fault
    Code: A36B
    Fault: Communication with the airbag SG disturbed
    Code: A375
    Fault: Error in the Bluetooth BT interface
    Code: A379
    Fault: Ring break diagnosis error
    Code: D690
    Digital Satellite-Tuner USA
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Seats:
    Seats / Sitze
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Seats / Sitze
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Systems:
    Gateway
    Fault: Mirror heating error
    Code: 93B2
    Steering column switch / Lenkstockschalter
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe
    Fault: Over-temperature stage 1
    Code: 629A
    Car Communication Computer CCC
    Fault: Message failure
    Code: E18D
    MASK
    Fault: Error in the antenna power supply
    Code: ABCA
    Center-Konsole
    Fault: Steering column module: initialized position data
    Code: 9FED
    Anti-theft alarm system:
    Interior protection / Innenraumschutz
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Theft alarm / Diebstahl Warnanlage
    Fault: Fault in the battery
    Code: 9D12
    Chassis:
    Central Control / Zentrale Bedieneinheit
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Body:
    Car Body Module
    ECU OK, no Fault Code
    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowpuck View Post
    yup, stored codes will be kept in the system.
    Any idea on these readings?

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    that's a wide range and list of codes - not always surprising as many of those could have been momentary problems.
    have you tried clearing codes and seeing what comes back?
    it still sounds like a smoke test is necessary to find any air/vacuum leaks.

    i'm not as familiar with this chassis/motor as i am with the m54 and earlier varieties. i'm sure some of the other experts (i'm just a diy guy!) will jump in...
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    I took and cleared them and the only coded that have come back in the past week have been 2c31 and 2C6B and the 93B2 code everything else's is gone could just be momentary codes like you said. I'll try to get to a smoke test but Im thinking it's probally the 02 sensors.

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    at the mileage, the primary o2 sensors are certainly due; can you view live o2 data to see if they are switching properly?
    a smoke test is simple and (at least in my part of the world) affordable to have done. it's critical to know if there are any air/vacuum leaks.

    you might also check and see what BMW recalls or TSBs apply to this vehicle - yes, that'll mean going to a dealership (somehow i suspect you'll survive). there's been fixes for things like the battery safety terminal, etc. that could be critical to fixing a range of issues.
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    My live data only shows front sensors in Mili amps and not volts but the downstream ones are steady between .7 and .8 volts.

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    Has a smoke test been performed yet?

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