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    Getrag Manual 6sp for M70?

    Hey everyone, im usually in the E32,E38 forums but browsing craigslist I may have found a jem of a tranny for $75.
    Little research brings up that this is a Getrag 560s made for the M70 V12 engine from the 850....... Only markings on the case was 286.0.0308.90 and 1221904.9. Seller has it up for $75 but it was posted 2 months ago. I am pulling my hair out as I am sure this is off the 850. He last updated a month ago and did not post his dam number so I have emailed him through the CL.

    Is this correct that this is the Getrag made for the M70? I only found german sites with that number alongside M70 etc.


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    The S6S 560G TALR is the correct 6 speed for the 12 cylinder 850. The issue is ...... there are NO PARTS available for them (anywhere). So, if it works fine that is a steal ..... if it doesn't you are SOL.
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    Thanks man,

    I cannot believe I have not seen that until now. I browse CL nearly everyday. According to him its in "good condition" but by the looks and price, he probably had this laying around from a previous tennant or something.

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    Whatever happened to the supposed 420G conversion?

    The parts are still roaming around on ebay.

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    That was the right transmission indeed.... but the guy tossed it in a dumpster last week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartoonz View Post
    That was the right transmission indeed.... but the guy tossed it in a dumpster last week!
    Jesus Christ !

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    Not having an 850, wondered if this is the same trans - just higher price!

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    Hello?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-V12-M70-...UAAOSwMmBVr0eW
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-V12-M70-...YAAOSw5VFWPehi


    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Knox View Post
    Not having an 850, wondered if this is the same trans - just higher price!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-BMW-S6S-42...FY4PTC&vxp=mtr
    Not the same trans, the 560 is unicornium. But as seen above, they're selling adapter plates for that very transmission. Nobody has tried them out, yet....
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    I still have 2 brand new 560g's if anyone is serious about buying one. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega man 1969 View Post
    I still have 2 brand new 560g's if anyone is serious about buying one. :-)
    Really ??????????????' that is one of the coolest thing EVER,,,, i have 2 ,,used ,,by myself,, one in a car and the other on the floor

    i must say i am rather impressed
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    haha...collectors, in germany I know 2 used for sale and I have one new in box. Used ones show up now and then.. .... not that rare YET, but wait a few years and they will be super rare.... like the 18" alpina's, wood trim and other stuff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by clubE31 View Post
    haha...collectors, in germany I know 2 used for sale and I have one new in box. Used ones show up now and then.. .... not that rare YET, but wait a few years and they will be super rare.... like the 18" alpina's, wood trim and other stuff)
    So what's the point of purchasing a used transmission if you can't get parts for the thing? As an owner of a 6-speed E31 I would be real hesitant to buy a used one from a wrecker because I don't know how long it will last. And once it does explode, I am now left with two tranny's that don't work and can't be fixed.

    I think there is real promise in the 420G conversion kit that was discussed. Also, I recently watched an episode of Jay Leno's garage where he said he now has to manufacture most of the parts he needs for his really old cars. CNC technology has really come around which allows him to make these "one-off" parts for a "reasonable" price. Now Jay Leno's view of reasonable and mine are most certainly different, but I am hopeful if I ever need to replace a part in my 560G, I'll be able to go to a machine shop and say, "Can you make me one of these?" In the meantime, I'm very respectful of my transmission when I drive my car . . . use it but don't abuse it.

    This is a frustrating thing with BMW compared to a company like Mercedes. MB has a superb spare parts department that manufactures parts for every model they ever made (at least that's what I heard). You need a thing-a-ma-jig for your 1936 540K? Well here you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniff38 View Post
    CNC technology has really come around which allows him to make these "one-off" parts for a "reasonable" price. Now Jay Leno's view of reasonable and mine are most certainly different, but I am hopeful if I ever need to replace a part in my 560G, I'll be able to go to a machine shop and say, "Can you make me one of these?Sean
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWM5LOVER View Post
    I'm afraid to ask, how much?
    Don't be afraid :-) its only money :-)



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    remanufactured $6595. ouch!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega man 1969 View Post
    1 sold...1 gearbox left.
    I started pulling my parts list together for a 420G conversion, but just came across this thread. I am interested if you still have this one left. Sending you a PM as well.

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    The guy that built the "Gristle Hammer" M70 E34 wagon used one of those adapter plates from PMC Motorsport out of Poland. He said everything worked fine, but he had to have a 25mm spacer machined to space the flywheel and clutch and they he had to slightly modify the bell housing to work properly with the started. He also said that the Land Rover started from the older ones that had the M60 engine might work without that modification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnewby View Post
    Do you still have either of these transmissions? (S6S 560G)
    Not sure if that is directed at me or not.....No, I sold the 2 I had last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoky540i View Post
    The guy that built the "Gristle Hammer" M70 E34 wagon used one of those adapter plates from PMC Motorsport out of Poland. He said everything worked fine, but he had to have a 25mm spacer machined to space the flywheel and clutch and they he had to slightly modify the bell housing to work properly with the started. He also said that the Land Rover started from the older ones that had the M60 engine might work without that modification.
    Hello! Would you (or anyone reading this) happen to have a link to that bit about that 25mm spacer? I purchased one of the PMC adapter rings for my e32, and have a 420G from an e34 540i (which I'm led to believe shouldn't have the starter problem mentioned). I have a CNC in the garage, so milling a 1in spacer isn't the end of the world, but getting exact dims from someone who's made it work already would sure be nice. Thanks!

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