Vintage tires available

[okieflats]

185/70VR13 PIRELLI CINTURATO ™ CN36, £108.00 excl VAT

http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page...rato-cn36.html

[cgifool]

cool! I have one of these on my spare, assumed it was original. neat tread.

[Thecatmilton]

Are these New Old Stock or reproductions?

[okieflats]

They are new, made like the originals, using old "molds" I think or whatever equipment is used to make tires. I think there are Michelins available also. And supposed to be free shipping. And one British pound is only $1.25 now, so that would put these at about $135.

These are being used in 185/70-14 for Alfa Romeo restorations, so I checked to see if they also came in 13 inch and since they do I posted it here.

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http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page...in-xas-ff.html 165HR13 Michelin XAS, These would only be for the 2002, size 165/80-13 which was the original size for the 2002

[Thecatmilton]

They are new, made like the originals, using old "molds" I think or whatever equipment is used to make tires. I think there are Michelins available also. And supposed to be free shipping. And one British pound is only $1.25 now, so that would put these at about $135.

These are being used in 185/70-14 for Alfa Romeo restorations, so I checked to see if they also came in 13 inch and since they do I posted it here.



http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page...in-xas-ff.html 165HR13 Michelin XAS, These would only be for the 2002, size 165/80-13 which was the original size for the 2002

The price isn't that bad considering I paid around $40 each for some kumho solus tires. These also are being produced in significantly lower amounts too.

[wally509]

Just an FYI...I recently bought a set of Michelins for my Healey from Longstone. The tires (or should I say tyres ) were here in Wisconsin from England in under a week. They were delivered by the U.S postal service. Totally seamless transaction. I've heard, but don't know this for a fact, that you want to leave their site showing the prices in pounds, not to change it over to US dollars, then let your credit card company do the conversion as you will get a better rate.

[320iAman]

185-70hr13-avon-cr6zz-300x300-wm.jpg185-70vr13-michelin-xdx-300x300-wm.jpg185-70vr13-pirelli-cinturato-cn36-300x300.jpg
185/70VR13 PIRELLI CINTURATO ™ CN36
£108.00 excl VAT £129.60 incl VAT

185/70HR13 Avon CR6ZZ
£174.00 excl VAT £208.80 incl VAT

185/70VR13 Michelin XDX
£139.00 excl VAT £166.80 incl VAT

Good to see more 13" tires are around.

Randy

[MortyCrock]

Just an FYI...I recently bought a set of Michelins for my Healey from Longstone. The tires (or should I say tyres ) were here in Wisconsin from England in under a week. They were delivered by the U.S postal service. Totally seamless transaction. I've heard, but don't know this for a fact, that you want to leave their site showing the prices in pounds, not to change it over to US dollars, then let your credit card company do the conversion as you will get a better rate.

Do you know if the VAT was included? or do we have to even pay that since its international...? just curious.

[okieflats]

We pay no VAT. The VAT is like a 20% sales tax that is paid in the EU, European Union, only. I have bought stuff from England and had it shipped. It's reasonable, especially since the British Pound dropped from about $1.55 to $1.25 which happened after the British Exit, Brexit, vote.

VAT stands for value added tax.

My credit card did charge me a 3% international transaction fee though. I didn't know about that until I saw it on my bill. That depends on your particular credit card company.

[wally509]

Correct, no VAT. I paid no international transaction fee on my Visa, which is though a company credit union.

When the mail carrier brought them he asked how much it cost to ship this stack of tires since they went "express". I told him I didn't know since it was free shipping. His mouth sort of dropped in surprise. They were not in boxed but banded together in pairs pretty much unprotected, they didn't even have the obligatory round cardboard disks over the openings. I made a thorough inspection and they are fine, just sayin'...

[wally509]

Let me just machine gun off two posts in row here...

Obviously, these tires are going to be 2.5-4.5X the cost vs the Kumho Solus or Toyo Extensa. My guess is the only people who are going to fork out that much are doing so because they really want a "period correct" tire on their car for whatever reason, which I can respect. Therefore it should be noted that the Pirelli CN36 is a late 60's-early 70's tire, a little early for an e21. The Michelin XDX however, is a mid 70's-late 70's/very early 80's tire. I looked into all these when shopping for my Healey tires, modern tires just don't look right on those cars.

Later,
Wally


p.s. I didn't mention the Avon as I'm pretty sure that's a vintage race tire.

[320iAman]

185/55HR13 Camac Auriga for the lower profile look and ride,, 55 pounds-exc VAT

camac-auriga.jpg

http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page...ac-auriga.html

Randy

[Layne]

185/55HR13...for the lower profile look and ride

That's not how that works. Those are more than 2" smaller in diameter than the correct size.

[Layne]

The Michelins are a good find. That's less than half the price of Coker https://www.cokertire.com/185-70vr13-michelin-xdx.html

I've heard they were used on E21's originally, but the original ones I have seen are Continental. Certainly period correct though in any case.

[wally509]

Layne, they could have been on earlier cars and agreed, certainly period correct. When I bought my '82 a few years ago it still had the original tires on it, they were Uniroyal Rallye 170. When my dad bought his '83 320i "Luxus" back in 1982 it had Continental TS770 originally.

[mxl556]

Looks like there are more options now - I am happy to see V rated 205/60/13 Vredestein tires!

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Sprint+Classic

Summit racing as well as other vendors have them.

Max

[jaredmac11]

Let me just machine gun off two posts in row here...

Obviously, these tires are going to be 2.5-4.5X the cost vs the Kumho Solus or Toyo Extensa. My guess is the only people who are going to fork out that much are doing so because they really want a "period correct" tire on their car for whatever reason, which I can respect. Therefore it should be noted that the Pirelli CN36 is a late 60's-early 70's tire, a little early for an e21. The Michelin XDX however, is a mid 70's-late 70's/very early 80's tire. I looked into all these when shopping for my Healey tires, modern tires just don't look right on those cars.

Later,
Wally


p.s. I didn't mention the Avon as I'm pretty sure that's a vintage race tire.

Would these tires perform better than Discount Tire's or Tire Rack's offerings? Or is the premium mostly for period correct tires? I know I need some tires, it'd be great to get some that performed well for the vehicle.

[Layne]

Would these tires perform better than Discount Tire's or Tire Rack's offerings? Or is the premium mostly for period correct tires? I know I need some tires, it'd be great to get some that performed well for the vehicle.

Very unlikely. As you say, they're made for looks. But no one makes really good 13's anymore, so they might be equivalent.

[Ricochet Rabbit]

I've got the 205/60-13 Vredesteins on my car. They look right, fit properly (5.5" rim width), and don't rub. Grip is plenty good enough for spirited street driving.

[okieflats]

Would these tires perform better than Discount Tire's or Tire Rack's offerings?

There is supposed to be a difference. For me it would not be worth the money to try it, but you may want to look into it if the price doesn't put you off. The Pirellis are cheaper than the Michelins. Note they are a V speed rating which is good. I bought some cheap Federal ss657 which is only a T rated, much lower. Here's what Longstone says :


Although the size 185/70VR13 was a very popular size for cars such as a Ford Cortina, Opel Manta or a Vauxhall Chevette, it is also a low profile wider tyre that people would fit instead of a 165 R 13 full profile. However the advantage with this particular 185/70VR13 CINTURATO ™ CN36 from PIRELLI is that it is a period carcass, which is suited to classic cars, where as other tyres in the size 185/70R13 will have a more modern tread and carcass design suited to more modern cars, and of course will not qualify for the V speed rating that the CINTURATO ™ 185/70VR13 CN6 has.

T Up to 118 mph
U Up to 124 mph
H Up to 130 mph
V Up to 149 mph

This fellow says they make early Alfa's handle the way they are supposed to, what that means I'm not to sure. Also going wider on vintage vehicles adversely affects handling agility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rEUEkOZOfw&t=1066s