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  1. #1126
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    m52 Turbo Build

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    Ya, why are you messing around wasting time on a difficult to get to marginal solution when all you have to do is drill and tap the oil pan. Put some grease on the drill bit and tap flutes, drill slow as aluminum doesn't care about speed and flush it with solvent a bunch of times.

    I went through the same smoke issues years ago. I tried some of the magic that has been suggested except for the sump and the vent. Check valves on the inlet and outlet of the scavenge pump, a timer set to run 45 seconds after engine shut down, drain into the oil pan.... what fixed it was a 1 psi check valve on the feed line to stop oil flowing into the turbo after shut down. The old guy at RB Racing told me that's what the fix would be and he was right. Back when Horsepower Freaks were a thing they had the same issue with some kits and released a service bulletin to install a check valve on the feed line to fix the issue.

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    I've never tapped an oil pan or much of anything for that matter. That's why I'm trying to avoid it. Especially with oil pan on

    - - - Updated - - -

    If you can guys can tell me what to get to do it correctly. I'd give it a shot
    Last edited by 328iFun; 09-30-2017 at 05:32 PM.

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    I would like to use this fitting. its 3/8
    https://www.amazon.com/Straight-Flar...s=8+an+fitting

    So a 3/8 tap and a 3/8 bit?

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    Would this work?
    https://drillsandcutters.com/3-8-24-...SABEgIAmPD_BwE

    And I guess I would have to buy the part that spins it too. Not sure what its called though.

    And for solvent just flush with oil

    thanks again

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    I would go for -10 on the drain, 3/8-18 NPT tap and a 9/16" drill bit. That tap you posted is not NPT. For a solvent use varsol, stoddard solvent or mineral spirits. You can get any of those solvents at a hardware store. (Never use soap and water).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chikinhed View Post
    I would go for -10 on the drain, 3/8-18 NPT tap and a 9/16" drill bit. That tap you posted is not NPT. For a solvent use varsol, stoddard solvent or mineral spirits. You can get any of those solvents at a hardware store. (Never use soap and water).
    So just pour solvent in the pan several times and it should be to good?

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    Grease the flutes, that will catch a bunch of the debris. You can hold a vacuum cleaner beside the drill if you'd like. Thee remaining debris can be rinsed out with solvent.
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    Ok I'm going to do this.

    If you guys know any good brands or websites with a kit or whatever for 3/8npt please post a link and I'll order

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    Can you get a drill on top of the pan on the drivers side with the engine in the car? Butters did his with the engine on a stand. I welded a bung on mine when the pan was off. If you want to return to the top of the pan on the turbo side, you can do that more easily. Then you would not need the scavenge pump assuming your turbo sits high enough. If drilling the pan on the turbo side, try to drill at an angle so tbe fitting wont end up pointing downwards. Some have returned to an enlarged pan drain. Home Depot and Lowe's sell 3/8 NPT tap kits but borrowing one is cheaper. If your turbo is installed there might not be room for a drill. Maybe a right able drill with a stepped bit?
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    I could enlarge the drain bolt?

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    That's probably be easiest

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    Butters has does it for cars he has built. I think one uses a 6262 journal bearing.

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    I wouldn't need a vent or pump would I?

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    He had told me tap the plug months ago.

    But didn't do it becuase I didn't wanna mess it up

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    The car I did that to, actually 2 of them. I drilled out the drain plug to fit a 1/2 npt. He is a member here, no smoking with a JB 6262. I also made a vent line tho. You can't really screw up the pan much, the bonus is that you just dump a at of dino oil down through and it all flushes out.
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    1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
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    Butters if you have a second can you post what tap and size bit you use to accomplish this or pm me.

    I'm going to do this with a vent and be done with it

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    Should have did it from the beginning

    Live and learn I guess

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    45/64 bit and 1/2NPT-14 tap
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    Thanks butters

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    Butters to the rescue. Should have listened to him months ago. There is the hard way and the easy way. Try the easy way now that you have attempted the hard way.

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    Yup, my car is the one in question that this was tested on. 12k miles later with daily driving, still no issues here.


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    Butters also instructed me to do the same, turbo drains well. I have an extra new tap I can send you...or go on amazon and get the tap and drill bit, they have them on there for reasonable. For the fittings google your closest city and aeroquip.

    This place may be able to help you. You just need a 1/2 npt to -10 then whatever you are going to use for the drain. You could prob have them fab you a line once you figure out the length.

    http://www.tipcotech.com


    or the place below may be able to help.

    http://www.colliflower.com

    1/2 npt to -10 fittings

    https://m.summitracing.com/search?ke...20to%2010%20an

    Tap on amazon is “dwtpt1/2”

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    You can also get a 1/2npt to 5/8 barb from home depot.
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