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    BMW E46 M3 reliability - better stats

    I wanted more up-to-date car reliability information that included actual repair rates. So in late 2005 I started getting people together to make this possible. TrueDelta now updates actual repair frequencies, not just dots, four times a year, to track cars closely as they age.

    We've had excellent participation by 3-Series owners, with nearly 1,300 signed up. I'd like to post separate reliability stats for the E46 M3--it's just a matter of getting enough owners involved. So I'm grateful that this forum has provided permission to post about this survey.

    Participants simply report repairs the month after they occur on a one-page survey. When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year, at the end of each quarter.

    To encourage participation, participants receive full access to all results, not just those for the M3, for free. I'll share results in this thread after each update.

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    I'm going to try to have separate stats for the E46 M3 in May. This will depend on how many owners have been participating.

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    Hats off to MKaresh's and True Delta's efforts to prospectively catalog the reliability of both enthusiast-oriented makes/models and more pedestrian models. I am participating in his efforts with my Audi B6 S4 (current DD) and the "family truckster" (Volvo V70). Once I sell the Audi, I'll be gearing up to purchase an '04-'05 e46 ///M3 and will look forward to reviewing the data you and other e46 M3 owners contribute.
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    Recently enhanced the related repair history survey so that it can (optionally) be used as a personal car maintenance record.

    As always, more participants would be helpful. Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May, with a preview for participants soon.

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    Updated results soon. I nearly split out the E46 M3 in this upcoming set, but the results were very close to those for the regular 3, so this seemed of little benefit while splitting the sample size.

    So instead I'll only be including a note that the regular 3 and M3 have similar repair frequencies this time around.

    With the next update, in August, I'd like to split the results, but it will only make sense to do this if more owners are involved.
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    Thanks! Good info here. Wish we had a bit larger sample size to normalize the dataset.
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    We've updated the results for the E46 3-Series to include owner experiences through March 31, 2010. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2005: 125, worse than average (blip at the end of the standard warranty?)

    2004: 98, about average

    2003: 84, about average

    2002: 113, about average

    2001: 162, worse than average

    2000: 94, better than average, but small sample size and doesn't seem accurate given results for other years

    1999: 189, worse than average, very small sample size

    A big thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, results would likely be more consistent from model year to model year.

    I'd like to report results separately for the E46 M3, like we are for the E90 M3. Just need enough participants to make this possible.

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    We'll have some initial stats for the 2002 and 2004 M3 in about two weeks.

    For the 2003 we fell two responses short, and for the 2005 we were four short. So with just a few more participants for each year we could have results for four model years the next time around, in November.

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    We've updated the results for the E46 M3 to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2004 3-Series: 87, about average

    2004 M3: 49, better than average, very small sample size, much lower average odometer

    2002 3-Series: 99, about average

    2002 M3: 120, about average, very small sample size, much lower average odometer

    Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants we could provide more precise results and cover all model years.

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    Thanks Mike, I see you get a lot better response here than the 996 forum on Rennlist

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    That 996 forum is a special case. But other 996 owners, including the admin of that forum, have asked me to cover the car. So I'm doing what I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkaresh View Post
    That 996 forum is a special case. But other 996 owners, including the admin of that forum, have asked me to cover the car. So I'm doing what I can.
    haha they hate you on that forum. But I think you're doing a good work, even if its limited.
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    you realize with the money you spent fixing your E36, you could have BMW themselves

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    A few people there enjoy causing trouble. For every one of them dozens of 911 owners have signed up to help.
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    We've updated the results for the E46 3-Series to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2006: 152, worse than average, very small sample size

    2005: 88, about average

    2005 M3: 59, better than average, very small sample size

    2004: 84, about average

    2004 M3: 44, better than average, very small sample size, much lower average odometer

    2003: 114, about average

    2002: 86, better than average

    2002 M3: 99, about average, very small sample size, much lower average odometer

    Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May.

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    Updated stats around the end of the month.

    More participants remain needed to provide solid results for the E46 M3. To help make this happen:

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    Updated stats around the end of the month.

    More participants remain needed to provide solid results for the E46 M3. To help make this happen:

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    We've updated the results for the E46 3-Series to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2005: 88, about average

    2005 M3: 77, about average, very small sample size

    2004: 91, about average

    2004 M3: 51, better than average, very small sample size, very low average odometer

    2003: 106, about average

    2003 M3: 74, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 106, about average

    2002 M3: 111, about average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven fewer miles per year than the regular 3s.
    Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants we could provide more precise results.

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    We've updated our car reliability stats for the E46 M3 to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2005: 107, about average

    2005 M3: 103, about average, very small sample size

    2004: 75, about average

    2004 M3: 39, better than average, very small sample size, very low average odometer

    2003: 110, about average

    2003 M3: 28, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 104, about average

    2002 M3: 74, better than average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven fewer miles per year than the regular 3s.

    We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants we could provide more precise results.

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    We've updated our car reliability stats for the E46 M3 to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2005: 107, about average

    2005 M3: 103, about average, very small sample size

    2004: 75, about average

    2004 M3: 39, better than average, very small sample size, very low average odometer

    2003: 110, about average

    2003 M3: 28, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 104, about average

    2002 M3: 74, better than average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven fewer miles per year than the regular 3s.

    We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants we could provide more precise results.

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    We have updated reliability stats for the E36 3-Series based on owner experiences through September 30, 2011.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    1999: 127, about average

    1998: 115, about average

    1996: 92, better than average

    1995: 206, worse than average

    The sample sizes for all but the 1998 were small and even very small.

    Thank you, once again, everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide separate, more precise results for just the M3.

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    We've updated our car reliability stats for the E46 3-Series (on our redesigned site) to include owner experiences through December 31, 2011.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2006 2-door: 40, better than average, very small sample size

    2005: 122, about average

    2005 M3: 66, better than average, very small sample size

    2004: 102, about average

    2004 M3: 78, better than average, small sample size

    2003: 134, about average

    2003 M3: 69, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 64, better than average

    2002 M3: 101, about average, very small sample size

    2001: 112, about average

    2000: 130, about average

    1999: 131, about average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven about 70 percent as many miles per year as the regular 3s.

    Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants we could provide more precise results.

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    We've updated our car reliability stats for the E46 3-Series to include owner experiences through June 30, 2012.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2006 2-door: 49, about average, very small sample size

    2005: 60, about average

    2005 M3: 27, better than average, very small sample size

    2004: 90, worse than average on stricter recalibrated scale

    2004 M3: 86, about average, small sample size

    2003: 127, worse than average

    2003 M3: 49, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 70, better than average

    2002 M3: 107, worse than average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven about 70 percent as many miles per year as the regular 3s.

    The small sample sizes could be responsible for much of the variation from year to year. With more owners involved we could provide more precise results.

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    We've updated our car reliability stats for the E46 3-Series and M3 to include owner experiences through September 30, 2012.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2006 2-door: 64, about average, small sample size

    2005: 78, about average

    2005 M3: 26, better than average, very small sample size

    2004: 83, about average

    2004 M3: 55, about average, small sample size

    2003: 123, worse than average

    2003 M3: 44, better than average, very small sample size,

    2002: 98, worse than average on stricter, recalibrated scale

    2002 M3: 102, worse than average, very small sample size

    In general the M3s are driven about 70 percent as many miles per year as the regular 3s.

    We'll have further updates in February and May. We'd love to provide more precise stats and cover more model years--just a matter of getting more owners involved.

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    We've updated our reliability stats for the E46 3-Series to include owner experiences through March 31, 2013.

    Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

    2006 3-Series 2dr: 64, moderate, small sample size
    2005 3-Series: 66, moderate
    2005 M3: 45, low, very small sample size
    2004 3-Series: 92, moderate
    2004 M3: 53, low, small sample size
    2003 3-Series: 113, high
    2003 M3: 51, low, small sample size
    2002 3-Series: 130, high
    2002 M3: 96, moderate, very small sample size

    We'll have further updates in August and in November. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

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