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    I'm going to come off like a broke record, but the organization is just bad. Now with these new tags - it's completely gone.

    We've lost the ability to "browse" a section, i.e. - frequently I would go into the Race Cars and Track Parts For Sale forum just to see what was out there. I would often end up seeing something that I was not actively searching for, but would end up purchasing. The Tag systems eliminates this possibility because to get results at all in line with a category your searching for, you have to search a specific tag. Not to mention, requiring sellers to input every possible tag is unrealistic. End result is that maybe there is a TC Kline Roll bar or XYZ part out there for sale - but because the tags weren't applied by the seller just right, and/or because I didn't search them just right - I'll never know.

    I'm also getting results from a bunch of other forums. Maybe some training or a guide for how to use and navigate would alleviate some of this.

    I don't know, maybe it's just me, but like I've said before the best part of the old classifieds was that it was well organized and kept within this community. That's been reversed with the new system.

    I also don't buy the argument that "the user can link their post to a specific forum". The reality is unless they are forced to put their item in the correct forum, it simply won't happen. There doesn't seem to be any moderators curating the classified forums anymore, so there's also no correction once something is in the wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camdinans3 View Post
    I tried to list something and it didn't make a thread on here for it. I think it's a pain.
    What's your Panjo username? I'll be happy to look into it and make sure your accounts are connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5speed300 View Post
    I'm going to come off like a broke record, but the organization is just bad. Now with these new tags - it's completely gone.

    We've lost the ability to "browse" a section, i.e. - frequently I would go into the Race Cars and Track Parts For Sale forum just to see what was out there. I would often end up seeing something that I was not actively searching for, but would end up purchasing. The Tag systems eliminates this possibility because to get results at all in line with a category your searching for, you have to search a specific tag. Not to mention, requiring sellers to input every possible tag is unrealistic. End result is that maybe there is a TC Kline Roll bar or XYZ part out there for sale - but because the tags weren't applied by the seller just right, and/or because I didn't search them just right - I'll never know.

    I'm also getting results from a bunch of other forums. Maybe some training or a guide for how to use and navigate would alleviate some of this.

    I don't know, maybe it's just me, but like I've said before the best part of the old classifieds was that it was well organized and kept within this community. That's been reversed with the new system.

    I also don't buy the argument that "the user can link their post to a specific forum". The reality is unless they are forced to put their item in the correct forum, it simply won't happen. There doesn't seem to be any moderators curating the classified forums anymore, so there's also no correction once something is in the wrong place.
    Thank you for your insights! All valid points. For clarity, members expressed that they wanted to be able to slice & dice the marketplace in narrower ways. Tags allow you to refine the email digests you receive at a more granular level (to be able to increase or decrease the new listing emails depending on the range of tags members follow/unfollow). Instead of receiving email alerts for every listing posted to Bimmerforums, if you frequent 'Race Cars and Track Parts', you can choose to follow that tag feed and receive email digests that include those results. All of the subforum categories on Bimmerforums were grandfathered into its own exclusive tag.

    We understand search tools are limited. We just completed the redesign of the marketplace (earlier this week) and are now currently working on better search/filter tools to compliment. We are also working on better ways to follow, view, and manage marketplace tags. Currently, you can see the tags you are following in your Panjo profile.

    At this time, a seller can only tag their listing with a maximum of 5 tags. We display the number of members following a certain tag to help sellers utilize these tools efficiently to reach a larger audience. Our community team does actively look at every new listing to add the appropriate tags when needed.

    Hope this clears up any confusion! If you'd like to read more about the new features we recently released, FAQs, or how-to guides, they can be found archived in our Support forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    One Panjo feature set was completed. There is another coming in 45 days. I would appreciate your feedback...

    We can only fix concerns your bring to our attention, so silence is acceptance unless we hear otherwise.
    So you want us to repost our request for an option to bypass Panjo every 45 days....got it.
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    Ultimately, you should revise the market forums from the way they are. I just went into the 3 series for sale, and I can barely find cars listed because there are so many parts threads. I don't want to search because I'm always browsing for e30's, e36's and e46's. Whatever the next project happens to be. I can't really do that anymore, so I barely go into these sections. Might as well get rid of them since they are pointless. Maybe there is a better way to organize the forum to match Panjo, since Panjo doesn't work with the sections very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panjo View Post
    Thank you for your insights! All valid points. For clarity, members expressed that they wanted to be able to slice & dice the marketplace in narrower ways. Tags allow you to refine the email digests you receive at a more granular level (to be able to increase or decrease the new listing emails depending on the range of tags members follow/unfollow). Instead of receiving email alerts for every listing posted to Bimmerforums, if you frequent 'Race Cars and Track Parts', you can choose to follow that tag feed and receive email digests that include those results. All of the subforum categories on Bimmerforums were grandfathered into its own exclusive tag.

    We understand search tools are limited. We just completed the redesign of the marketplace (earlier this week) and are now currently working on better search/filter tools to compliment. We are also working on better ways to follow, view, and manage marketplace tags. Currently, you can see the tags you are following in your Panjo profile.

    At this time, a seller can only tag their listing with a maximum of 5 tags. We display the number of members following a certain tag to help sellers utilize these tools efficiently to reach a larger audience. Our community team does actively look at every new listing to add the appropriate tags when needed.

    Hope this clears up any confusion! If you'd like to read more about the new features we recently released, FAQs, or how-to guides, they can be found archived in our Support forum.

    - Brian
    Appreciate the response, but the underlying issue was unaddressed - organization. It's nice that the bfc sections were grandfathered in, but it's useless unless people posting items for sale know to use them. Users (myself included) will pick only the easiest / most obvious choice for how to post. If it is not blatantly obvious which tag they should use or subforum to post in, there will be errors. Now that there are literally countless tags you can use we will lose what little organization we had before. The issue isn't being able to search with more detail, it's being able to look without having to search a specific item but still have things categorized correctly. I think the tags are a huge step backward - before at least the categories were easy to select and see, they just needed to be moderated / cleaned up. Now even that is gone.

    I guess it is what it is and the forums are basically dead/useless now. Just a shame the Admins didn't poll users before making such a pivotal shift when they admittedly spend very little time in the classifieds. I also keep hearing that "users requested XYZ" - where is this occurring? Doesn't seem to be on bfc...

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    So far not a single person has posted in this thread in favor of keeping Panjo. Not one. In fact, I don't know anyone on the forums who likes it. Additionally, I know several people who no longer frequent Bf.c solely BECAUSE of Panjo.

    Kevlar, why don't you create a site-wide poll; Who is in favor of keeping Panjo or getting rid of it? I bet you would have an overwhelming amount of support to get rid of it, that seems like a pretty fair and legit way of deciding whether or not the feature stays.

    Personally, I hate Panjo. I haven't been able to post in the classifieds for weeks now, so I resort to cluttering up the sub forums with my FS threads.

    I could never use it via the mobile app on my phone.

    I used to exclusively sell stuff on bf.c , now I predominantly sell on FB, ebay, CL, etc. Nobody likes Panjo. And BTW, that alone SHOULD be a good enough reason to get rid of it. There is a reason nobody likes it, and it isn't because it improves the feeling, flow, and appeal of this site. It detracts from it, significantly.
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    I know you don't like this answer, but it's true, I just don't like it, it's the truth, bf.c is the only forum I frequent that uses it and I dread creating a thread here because of all the extra steps, I then to create more threads on other forums and only the bigger items i list here.

    The fact that there are fees for selling stuff, I also don't like.
    If I wanted to pay fees I'd list it on ebay.

    I also just don't like that it is not bf.c , I don't care how good it is, or what BS benefits there are. I come here for bf.c not some farmed out solution.

    Sorry it's the truth.

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    If been trying to post a clutch for sale 3 days later still cant get it to show up on the forced induction section. Panjo is just the worst. overcomplicates something that used to be simple and easy.
    Im on board with rajicase start a poll and see what the people want!

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