Hey guys,
A lot of you have probably been following my 2003 525it 5-speed build thread, but now that the car has been converted to a 530it 6-speed, I figured I would start a new thread on it. You can read about the previous version here: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-525iT-5-speed.
If you've been following any of my build threads, you know that I like to swap my engines and transmissions around between the cars I have, LOL. I first took a S62/420g with low miles on it and installed it into a 2001 740i and kept it in there for a few years, but the car kept needing more work to even make it comfortable to drive, so I pulled the drivetrain and decided to turn my 2003 530i sedan, that I had done a 6-speed and 540it 3.15 diff swap in, into a M5. On that car, I did a full conversion, including engine, transmission, diff, axles, suspension, traction bars, extended leather interior, seats, Alcantara headliner, etc. Well, the thing is that car was fully sorted out when I did the swap, so I was left with the engine, transmission, entire refreshed front suspension/steering, subframe, 540it 3.15 diff, etc. I figured that would go perfectly well into my 2003 525it 5-speed that needed all the help it could get, as the front suspension was totally shot, engine was weak for the 3800 or so pounds it was lugging around, and the 5-speed was keeping the revs over 3000 RPM when cruising. Last weekend I finally got a chance to do the swap at Redshift's place in Raleigh, where we do most of our swaps. I had left my 530i subframe with engine, transmission, suspension, etc. all still attached off to the side of his shop for months after we did the M5 conversion, so he was getting really antsy about getting it out of there. The nice thing is that it made the swap go so much easier having everything prepped and the fact that both the M54b25 and M54b30 are externally identical. I already had the 540i manual transmission crossmember, shifter arm and selector rod, as well as the 540it diff and driveshaft, so all of that bolted right up as it was in the sedan. I had to swap the rear axles for 540it or M5 axles due to the larger flanges on the diff, but that wasn't too terrible to do (once we figured out that we needed to release the air in the air bags, LOL).
So, now I have a 2003 530it/6 and it's perfect for a DD/beater, while still being mechanically sound for about 60-80k miles or so. The paint isn't perfect, but for right now it doesn't need to be. On the interior, the sand beige wasn't really in bad shape, but I am not a fan of sand beige and there were a few panels that weren't that great, so I decided to use the 530i sedan black interior pieces I took out when doing the M5 conversion, and found the rear seats, carpets, seat belts and trim from someone parting out a black interior wagon to convert my entire interior to black. I realize it may look a bit weird on a Steel Blue Metallic exterior, but I like the black interior much better, and I'm really a fan of the Steel Blue as well, so it works for me.
Here's the update I posted after doing the swap on Sunday/Monday:
I'll post some more exterior/interior shots of the car once I get it all washed up and it stops looking like rain/snow outside.Originally Posted by blackknight530i
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
Cool man! I gotta do the liftgate struts on my wagon too. Never done those yet, always thouight it was a pain in the butt to do, no thanks to all those threads that say they are.
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I pretty much followed this method: http://www.frankies-bmw.com/5series/...ate_struts.php. There are several methods that tell you to lower the headliner, and while that might make it a bit easier to attach the ball joints to the struts, I think it's way more work than is needed. I just got really good with using the pry bar to move the other end of the strut around until it felt like I couldn't easily pull or push the struts forward/back, then lined up the pry bar on top of it and bumped it to hear the loud pop of it clicking on. Do the little circlip thing on the other ends and done. People complain about the plastic wire holders being a pain as well, but I found them to be fairly easy to deal with. I can tell you with confidence that this job was way easier doing it in a heated garage with a wall mounted shop vac to get all the crap out. If I was doing it outside in the freezing cold, it would be a horrible experience. Now that I'm familiar with it, I could probably do the job in about 30 minutes or so. I've got at least 2-3 people that want it done as well, so maybe I'll offer my garage space and time, LOL. Of course, Brian is one of those people, so it'll just be my time .
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
A friend of mine did it similarly. He said it was much easier than the internet implied.
Cool man, I'm gonna order the struts and tackle it. The tailgate tried to knock me out the other day. Tonight, coming home from work, I stopped and got some gas, when I started the car and started to move, the engine cut out.... That was new, I'm thinking wtf, started it back up, all good, headed home, when I slowed down for my street, it cut out again, I already had an idea, when I pulled into the shop, hooked the scanner up, sure enough, cam sensor. Gotta love these cars....
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Well, tonight I took on the rear ball joints, integral links, and rear sway bar endlinks, to complete the rear suspension refresh. Thank you Asim (Auaq) for letting me borrow the ball joint tool, which made this job way easier than it could have been without it. Those ball joints were pretty well rusted in there, but once they started moving, they came out ok. I was amazed the integral links came off very easily, but the sway bar endlinks were very tough and rusted. There was a lot of PB Blaster involved and a lot of brute strength, of which is going to cause me a good bit of soreness I'm sure, but I'm happy to say that the car drives pretty much like brand new now. The only issue I have, which will be resolved when I get an alignment done, is the steering wheel being way to the right when traveling straight. I'm not totally sure why, but I have a feeling the previous owner had the steering wheel off at one point and didn't put it back on the right splines. Considering the entire front steering was perfect when it was on the 530i sedan, it really shouldn't be off by much, but it could also be the same issue I had with my M5 conversion, when we had to take the steering column off the back of the steering wheel and didn't get that lined up right when reassembling. No matter if the steering wheel itself was properly installed, the column doesn't have any keyed splines to tell you it's installed correctly. I might just take the lower dash off and pull the steering column and align it better with the wheel, if the wheel is in fact in the right place. This will save a lot of effort when getting the alignment done. The car tracks very straight though and seems to handle well, but I think now that the rear is tightened up, I'm starting to feel it get a bit skittish due to parts not being aligned properly. I'll get it all checked hopefully sometime this week. I'll also have them do the AC recharge, even though I won't be needing AC for several months.
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
You're nuts Paul............in a good way )))))
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At least this car should mechanically be sound for a very long time now. It's funny, I was driving it today and while at a red light, I honestly couldn't even feel the engine running it was so smooth. At 212k miles, this just blows my mind. The M54b30 is truly a wonderful engine and the 6-speed shifts like a warm knife through butter. Worth every penny and minute.
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
Does it feel any different to the 2.5 engine aside from obvious hp/tq difference?
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Glad the ball joint tool worked out for you. By the way, I have sent a link to where you can purchase the diff bushing tool over at M5board. The same one that Igor has.
Was it easy for you to remove that long ball joint/integral link bolt? If I remember correctly, the torque spec for it was somewhere in the neighbourhood of +100 ft-lbs. It was not easy for me to break loose that nut/bolt. After replacing the suspension bits, I only managed to get it as tight as I possibly could before I drove the M5 to Brian's place and had the car up in the air, and finally torqued it down to the right specs.
Night and day. The 2.5 was actually not nearly as smooth, but I'm sure it mainly needed VANOS repair (never done as far as I know), coolant leak repair, alternator replacement (squealing on the current one), and probably spark plugs. I think it also had an evap issue due to running horrible after every fuel fillup with multiple misfires. Either way, all of that will be dealt with before going into Jeff's E30 this Jan/Feb timeframe. In that small lightweight car, it will feel awesome, especially with that 5-speed.
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So, interestingly, with the touring, it is much easier to do this job than the sedan. I pulled the air lines to the air springs again and then there was basically nothing fighting me, except the weight of the wheel carrier with the brakes attached. I put a block of wood between the axle and the lower swing arm to prop it up and it made it quite easy. Getting the bolt broken loose required a large breaker bar with a 24mm socket and an 18mm wrench, but that wasn't terrible. I have a torque wrench that goes up to 350 Nm, and that bolt only calls for 256 Nm (189 ft-lbs), so it was more than capable.
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
I think an oversquared engine usually runs a lot smoother than an undersquared engine, yet when I drove a buddy's low miles 525i at work it didn't feel any more smoother than my high mileage and with original vanos seals 530i.
At a certain point, I imagine the less stressed engine feels smoother.
That could be, though I'm not 100% on the history of the M54b25 in this car. I know the VANOS wasn't done, it definitely misfired like crazy with every fuel fillup, and struggled to make much power below about 3500 RPMs, but I don't know what a normal, healthy M54b25 should feel like. All I know is that my M54b30 has been running super smooth the entire 160k miles that I've had it, just like it did when it only had 56k miles.
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
Yeah there was probably something wrong with the 2.5 for sure, I was just saying I wouldn't necessarily expect a 3.0 to be less smooth than a 2.5 even with all else equal
Sub'd to another cool Paul Build Thread!
Ha!
Good god, I wish the internet gods would strike every reference to that idiotic morons "Drop the Headliner" goddammmm post from the universe. As far as I can tell it all goes back to one complete moron deciding he had to drop the headliner to do the job. There are decent 90 BTDT / DIY threads about this job, tons that will explain its really not that bad and yo don't even need the official tools (making one out of copper or PVC pipe is super easy however using various prybars can work fine too...) but for some reason that one idiots thread comes up and then too many other well intentioned people reference it and here we are talking about it again like its legit.
It isn't. Its like if some guy removed his seats by winching them out of the sunroof then told everybody that was the proper way it was supposed to be done. Its moronic.
/rant.
Haha lets just say with the provenance of that motor indeed who knows what might have been going on with it. I'd be not surprised about anything (except perhaps that it even ran so decently for you for so long...)
Glad to see that wagon all done up and in such great shape Paul. Rock on wagoneers.
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Haha! Gotta love the knowitallinterweebles!
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Paul....in my defense ....I believe that photo was after a 12 hour Saturday fighting axles and subframe bushings and after Steve and I gave one of the front struts a go and it would not cooperate.
It was food and beer time anyway, boss. Shop owner's orders.
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
I've been a part of enough of 'em ...about time I throw a comment around.
You know me...reader and worker, not really a typist.
Now....about my M54B25....
-Paul
2003 "M5" - Full M5 conversion, AMG C63S 6 piston front calipers, Porsche Panamera 4 piston rear calipers, GC Coilovers, Eibach ARBs, UUC Evo3/DSSR, Borla Exhaust w/Muffler Delete, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto, Bi-Xenons, e38 Style 37 M-Pars, e60 Hubs 530i 6-speed swap build thread2005 Range Rover 4.6is (M62TU Powered) - 4.6is Engine Swap from X5, BMW NBT with Carplay/Android Auto
2006 Porsche Cayman S - Soul Performance Competition Headers and Exhaust, H&R Coilovers, 718 Boxster Spyder wheels, Rennline 35mm rear spacers
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