so as some of you may know, e36 and e46 rear suspension does not have enough adjustment for toe-in when running zero camber on a lowered car. there are a few different ways to fix this, but I thought i'd post how I(and many others) fix this problem. its not the easiest thing to explain, so i'm just going to post a few pictures of the process and people can ask questions if needed.
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i will update after i find the right sized bolt and washers to show how the bushing will be offset to one side instead of centered in the bracket.
So this isn't to change toe, it's to allow the toe adjuster to move properly so that you CAN change toe? How do you measure where you move the pivot point without mucking stuff up worse?
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the bolt holes for the trailing arm brackets are slotted, so we are adjusting toe just like anyone would from the factory. when modifying the brackets we are basically just giving the trailing arm a new range of adjustment by allowing the trailing arm bushing to sit farther inward of the bracket for more toe-in. no measuring needed, but you would need a new alignment after installing.
See... that scares me. How much is too much? What about making sure both sides are the same? I know it doesn't need to be super precise since we have alignment machines and adjusters, but you're modifying a fulcrum that articulates enough down a long lever to make a difference. The parts are slotted on only one axis, but you reweld the bracket in two.
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i think you are just over-thinking this a little bit. hopefully my next update will help explain it better, i will take pictures with these actually installed on a trailing arm.
You sound like my wife... and parents... and therapist....
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LOL im not very good at explaining things on the internet, i think the pictures will help
I know what your doing, I am doing it soon too. No need to measure it doesn't matter. We have plenty of adjustment to compensate and the relative location of the fulcrum remains the same in all important directions.
found some grade 8 m12 bolts and lock nuts at the local hardware store.
stock stuff for reference
i used 2 washers on the inside to space the bushing away from the inner wall of the bracket and 4 washers on the outside to make up for the difference of the missing nub. this is where the magic happens, the bushing is placed as far inward as possible giving you the room for that toe-in.
Looks like you modified only one side.
Do you use a spacer on the opposite side?
Edit: got it!
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Ooooh I thought you changed the angle the bolt was. This is just spacing it in? Makes so much more sense meow.
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Argh, does anyone has photos of this they can post - that's not from photobucket?
There's a photobucket plugin for chrome I'm using. Makes life MUCH easier. But basically Cut out the inside portion, weld on flat piece, use washers to space inward. Done.
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Here you go.
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how much toe in are you guys running? I have no problem hitting 1/4" total with offset rtabs
I should get an alignment lol. I just put my car together and went to the track. Didn't have time to do more than toe plates.
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I also have done this mod, but as I search for more grip, I raise my car higher and higher and it becomes unnecessary.
is there anyone on here/anyone not on here that sells the brackets already modified?
so i dm'd him to ask, he basically said that it wouldnt work since it'll make the car toe out pretty good. Gotta keep searching for someone to do them custom
yeah I wasn't sure then after what blake said I figured I would just ask. His are all automated so hes not actually cutting and modifying oem brackets, he said he has everything cnc'd now. Although if he really wanted to, and I'm unsure if this would even work but if he's getting is all custom he could make the slotted parts for the toe adjustment longer to allow for more adjustment in either direction, but who knows.
I have a local shop around here that said they would do it, but I'm just gonna start with raising the car like a quarter inch and getting these camber arms in and go from there. If anything pops up I'll chime back in
I would be willing to make these for anyone who really needs them. local welders should be able to do it for you no problem, but if you are having trouble, just send me a private message and I would be more than willing to help out.
Sorry about all of the broken photos. i will try to make a new thread or update this one some day.
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I am in the same boat! I have also found more grip by raising my car. More grip equals more speed and more tire smoke.
If the car isn't gangster low, this mod isn't needed.
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