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    ► APEX | New APEX 18” Wheel Group Buy




    Update 12.16.2016 | The Group Buy has ended, but we’ve extended the pre-sale of the new wheels!

    The Group Buy ended successfully with 80 participants which earned everyone $325 off + free shipping.



    For anyone who missed out the Group Buy, you may still pre-order your set at a discount through the APEX site.

    • Orders placed in December will receive $200 off + free shipping
    • Orders placed in January will receive $150 off + free shipping
    • Orders placed in February will receive $100 off + free shipping
    • Orders placed in March will receive free shipping


    Not all designs, sizes and finishes could be produced. To hit production minimums some people needed to be switched to their backup choices. Everyone who purchased a set should have received an email a few weeks ago specifying the final design/size/finish they will receive. Please contact us if you did not receive your final confirmation.

    We broke our own rule of requiring 8 participants per size. On certain fitments we went ahead and produced them with fewer sets sold, but some had such low demand that we had to skip them. Below is a table showing exactly what will be coming in the first batch.

    FL-5:
    • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - no
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - yes


    SM-10:
    • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - no




    What if I have some questions?

    No problem! Just contact us at groupbuy@apexraceparts.com. Please avoid sending us Private Messages as they do not automatically go into our ticketing system and will experience a delay for responses.
    Last edited by Eddy@ApexRaceParts; 12-16-2016 at 04:27 PM.

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    We're working on a large batch of on-car renderings. We'll be trickling them out over the next month.

    In most cases we will render both designs and each wheel finish into a single photo creating a set. Different photo sets will show cars from different angles, distances, sceneries, but each set will be the same photo/angle. We do not have the bandwidth to take requests for various vehicle finishes and photos, but you're welcome to photoshop the images further.

    These first 2 images are from a set that shows a side profile of an E46 M3 with FL-5 18x9.5" ET35 wheel installed. We should have Race Silver tomorrow.

    Anthracite - view higher res


    Satin Black - view higher res

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    Here are a couple comparison shots of the multiple face profiles we offer in both the FL-5 design, as well as the SM-10. As you can see, we are still finalizing the SM-10 profile 1.





    - Ryan

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    We have added new renders of our SM-10 and FL-5 wheels at different angles! Tell us what you think about our new wheel designs!

    SM-10 Anthracite - view higher res



    SM-10 Race Silver- view higher res



    SM-10 Satin Black - view higher res



    FL-5 Anthracite - view higher res



    FL-5 Race Silver - view higher res



    FL-5 Satin Black - view higher res


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    We have added new renders of our new wheels in Profile 3 and Deep Lip fitments! What do you think?

    SM-10 Anthracite (Profile 3) - view higher res



    SM-10 Race Silver (Profile 3) - view higher res



    SM-10 Satin Black (Profile 3) - view higher res



    FL-5 Anthracite (Deep Lip) - view higher res



    FL-5 Race Silver (Deep Lip) - view higher res



    FL-5 Satin Black (Deep Lip) - view higher res


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    Be one of the first to pick up a set of our brand new 18" wheels for a great price! Sign up today!

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    The E9X 3 series renderings are here! Let us know what you think about our new FL-5 and SM-10 designs!

    FL-5 Race Silver view high res


    FL-5 Anthracite view high res


    FL-5 Satin Black view high res


    SM-10 Race Silverview high res


    SM-10 Anthraciteview high res


    SM-10 Satin Black view high res

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    Check out our new 18" APEX wheels on the F30! Which do you prefer, SM-10 or FL-5?

    SM-10 in Race Silver - high res


    FL-5 in Race Silver - high res


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    Take a look at our FL-5 and SM-10 wheels on this E36 M3!

    FL-5 in Race Silver - high res


    SM-10 in Race Silver - high res

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    The New APEX 18" Wheel Group Buy enters the payment phase tonight at midnight PST (11/9). Make sure to submit your pledge and be one of the first to own a set of our new APEX wheels!

    Here is a look at our new wheels on the F82 M4!

    APEX SM-10 in Anthracite - high res


    APEX FL-5 in Anthracite - high res

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    Check out our Race Silver FL-5 and SM-10 wheels on this blue E46 M3!

    Race Silver FL-5 - high res



    Race Silver SM-10 - high res

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    11/11 Update

    Alright ladies and gentleman, we’re rounding 2nd base and heading towards the second half of this Group Buy. We currently have pledges for 25 sets of wheels, which only represents a fraction of the 158 members who indicated interest during the feeler phase. The production of these new APEX designs depends on the communities participation.

    We typically see a rush of buyers in the last 24 hours of every Group Buy, but there is no reason to wait. The earlier your pledge is placed, the more momentum we collectively build towards higher discount tiers. With the ability to choose your own minimum required discount (MRD), there is no risk. If your MRD isn’t hit, you aren’t obligated to pay!

    The Group Buy ends Wednesday, November 16th at 11:59 PM PST - let’s finish strong!

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    Deal Progress

    This deal is behaving just like every other deal we've run in the past. Many of you sign up early, it slows to a trickle, and then in the last 2 days everybody else jumps in. It seems we can't get people to overcome the desire to sign-up just before the cut-off. We expect 2/3+ of the participants to join in the last 48 hours.

    Don't miss the cut-off. We can't add you in afterwards. Even if you're name is on the list. You must submit a pledge to get in on the deal.

    Just a deposit!

    The question of when you have to pay has come up multiple times. Only a $200 deposit will be charged at the close of the deal. You won't have to pay the balance until just before the wheels ship to you. That makes joining easy on the wallet.

    Engineering on schedule

    2D and 3D CAD models will be finished as of tomorrow. We're moving forward with tooling production the day after that which keeps this project right on schedule.

    Z4 M renderings are here

    We just completed our first set of renderings that show off a staggered setup of medium front and deep rear face profiles. Every other rendering so far has been the same profile all around. Checkout the photo's below.

    SM-10 in Anthracite - high res


    FL-5 in Anthracite - high res
    Last edited by Eddy@ApexRaceParts; 11-14-2016 at 06:32 PM.

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    Update 11/15

    The Group Buy is down to the last 33 hours now.

    There still seems to be some confusion about how these deals work. Many of you thought you’re already part of the deal just by adding your name/email to the feeler list.

    You are NOT officially part of this deal until you come back and Pledge (Add payment/shipping details).

    If you haven’t already submitted your payment info, then that crucial step still needs to be completed or you will miss out on this deal. Click through the link below and complete checkout.

    With the ability to choose your own minimum required discount (MRD), there is no risk. If your MRD isn’t hit, you aren’t obligated to pay.

    This deal ends Wednesday, November 16th at 11:59 PM Pacific.

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    There are just 10 hours left on the Group Buy clock. This is when the last minute orders start to come in. We have more than enough interest to achieve discount levels of $300 or more.

    With the ability to choose your own minimum required discount (MRD), there is no risk to join. If your MRD isn’t met, you aren’t obligated to pay, so submit your pledge now!

    This deal ends tonight, November 16th at 11:59 PM Pacific - let’s finish strong!
    Last edited by Eddy@ApexRaceParts; 11-16-2016 at 06:24 PM.

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    Group Buy Extended!

    There's clearly some misunderstanding on how to pledge, so we extended the Group Buy an additional 24 hours.

    We are confident that we can reach the second highest discount tier of $325 off, but we need your participation. Place your pledge now and select the $325 discount tier or lower to help bring these new APEX wheel designs to the community.

    If you have any fitment or product related questions, or need help with completing your pledge, please be sure to contact us at groupbuys@apexraceparts.com or call us at (925) 245-0773.

    This deal ends Thursday, November 17th at 11:59 PM Pacific.

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    The Group Buy has closed but it’s not over yet.

    We have just enough participants to reach the $325 off discount tier, but we can’t yet because there are 5 people in the deal pledged to only participate at $350 off.

    Those participants have 48 hours to edit their pledge down to the $325 mark by messaging us directly to confirm the change, or we risk losing it all.

    Yesterday we reached out to everyone pledged too high. Everyone except for the 5 members we haven’t heard from yet have accepted the slightly lower discount.

    The difference is only $25, which is just 1-2% of the set’s total cost. It’s a no brainer. Let’s make this happen.

    Because of the weekend, we’ll have the final tally posted on Monday. Until then the deal graph may show the deal as totally unsuccessful. We’ll update everyone ASAP.

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    It’s official, we successfully hit the $325 + free shipping* discount tier!

    Going into the weekend, five members of the Group Buy were given the option to edit their discount tier from $350 off to $325 off. All five of these conversion were vital to meeting our 80 participant requirement to achieve $325 off. As of this morning, three conversions were successful, however two did not respond and the deal was in jeopardy of collapsing in on itself.

    Thankfully we had two enthusiasts contact us who missed the original Group Buy sign-up window, and we were able to slide them in as replacements.
    At this time, the APEX staff is combing through the details of your orders to determine if all wheel specifications and finish options can be produced. Keep your eye’s peeled for your final order confirmation email tomorrow.

    Thank you to everyone who participated and for making these designs possible.

    - The APEX team

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    We realized our last update wasn’t clear as to how the deal ended, so here’s a more current deal update.

    The Group Buy ended successfully with 80 participants which earned everyone $325 off + free shipping. A few people were unwilling to pay the extra $25 so they cancelled, but during that time a few new participants discovered the deal, and we were able to get the 80 paid participants needed.

    For anyone who missed the Group Buy they can still be pre-ordered at a discount on our site. Orders placed in December get $200 off + free shipping. In January it will be $100+ free shipping, and in February just free shipping.

    Not all designs, sizes and finishes could be produced. To hit production minimums some people needed to be switched to their backup choices. Everyone who purchased a set should have received an email a few weeks ago specifying the final design/size/finish they will receive. Please contact us if you did not receive your final confirmation.

    We broke our own rule of requiring 8 participants per size. On certain fitments we went ahead and produced them with fewer sets sold, but some had such low demand that we had to skip them. Below is a table showing exactly what will be coming in the first batch.


    FL-5:
    • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - no
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - yes


    SM-10:
    • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
    • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
    • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
    • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
    • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - no

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    Update: Production delayed. New ETA

    This was originally going to be an update informing you of a 3 week delay as production space on the line has been held up by an OEM manufacturer. Unfortunately we were just informed of a production issue that requires significantly more time to correct. Our expected delay just ballooned from 3 weeks up to 8 weeks. You can read more details on why below.

    This delay affects everyone in different ways, so we’ve come up with three solutions to cater to everyone’s individual needs. If you were a buyer in this deal, you will receive an email asking you to pick how you’d like us to handle your order. Email is the only way we can process responses. Please do not PM or post here with your selection.

    More background on the delay:

    In summary, all the crush testing that was performed was done on the incorrect version of each wheel. The wheels that were manufactured and tested were a prior design version that lack our strength/weight optimizations. Correct samples need to be produced and crush testing needs to be redone to receive official JWL/VIA certification. We’re unwilling to compromise on the quality of our product, so we’re re-running every test, even though it’ll take time for all these sizes. We view this as a small bump in the road to delivering on the quality standard that our community has grown to expect.

    I would like to personally apologize on behalf of our entire team for the inconvenience this delay may cause.

    Thank you in advance for your understanding.

    -Eddy Pintacsi
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    Even though the Group Buy has ended, you still have a chance to save on our new FL-5 and SM-10 wheels! Our new wheels are now available directly on our website for pre-order! Visit our website today and save:





    E46 M3 with Anthracite SM-10 18x9.5" ET35 wheels.

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    ETA Update & Samples



    Production samples just started arriving at our warehouse. We have an SM-10 in house now and we’re very excited. FL-5 samples arrive soon. Unfortunately, we are forced to add an additional 30 days to the ETA. We’ve documented the reason for the delay below along with some outdoor shots of the SM-10.

    This is our 2nd delay, and in staying true to our principles, we will not force anyone to wait. We’re giving all participants 3 options again for processing their orders. If you were a participant in this deal, you will receive an email copy of this message. Please respond to that email with your option choice from the below list. Email is the only way we can process your selection.

    The Three choices are as follows:

    Option #1: I accept the delay as I want to keep my discount.

    We’ll fulfill your order the moment it arrives. You’ll be among the first to receive these wheels and you’re guaranteed to receive the full $375 discount + free shipping*.

    Option #2: Switch my order to an in-stock design at a discount.

    Some of you may not be able to wait the extra time. If you need wheels right now then you may switch your order to any of our in-stock ARC-8, EC-7 or PS-7 wheels. We will honor the highest discount we’ve ever offered for those designs, which is $200 off + free shipping*. We can ship them right away if you switch. Note: We cannot apply the same discount from this group buy to the older designs as they are not priced the same.

    Option #3: Cancel my order and forfeit my discount.

    If neither of the options above are acceptable to you, then we won’t hold you prisoner. We pride ourselves in doing what’s right for our customers. Regardless of what caused the delay, we are ultimately responsible. We should bear those consequences not you. There are typically no refunds on Group Buy orders because of the special order nature of these deals. We won’t apply that policy to this deal as the ETA has been moved beyond the original promised ETA again. You may choose to cancel your order and receive a full refund of your deposit. The $375 discount and free shipping* you’ve earned up to this point would be forfeited and may not be redeemed at any time in the future if you change your mind after cancelling.

    I would like to personally apologize again on behalf of our entire team if this extra delay causes you an inconvenience.

    Thank you in advance for your understanding.

    - Eddy Pintacsi
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    More background on the delay:

    The complex milling on our wheels was not translating from design to final product correctly. We had to make numerous additional iterations to our milling designs to adapt to a production limitation. This issue stemmed from a miscommunication between the engineering department setting up cut paths, and the machine department that was not clearly articulating the limitation differences between the prototyping and production phase. If we boil down the problem to it’s essence, the factory does not have the machinery to produce our original designs. The issue only became inherent on the main production line, which is why it surprised us so recently. The majority of the delay is being spent on re-crush test everything again as we have to validate that our new simulated results match real world results.

    In the end we’ve revised the milling of both the SM-10 design and the FL-5 design to work within the new constraints, which ultimately improved them in the processes. The final results are milling designs that we like even more than the originals.

    SM-10 specific revision details

    The SM-10 originally had chisel shaped milling. It’s been revised to a radius cut instead. The original shape was encountering issues near the center of the spoke because we did not have the 5 axes of control we originally believed we’d have. By changing to a radius we could still get ideal results with fewer than 5 axes.

    The image below shows how the design was supposed to be machined, with smooth curves and consistent widths.



    The image below is the first unit off the line where we caught this discrepancy. The machining at the center area is not as designed and created stress points.



    The image below shows the revised version with a radius cut. The center area is much improved. In making this change we were able to go a bit deeper with our machining and we also like the look a lot more. Check out the Anthracite sample photos lower in this post to see how cool this change looks on a finished product.



    FL-5 Revision details

    The FL-5 already had a radius cut, but the lack of 5 axis machining was causing the cutter to not track correctly. The mill took excess material off the wheel in an area we didn’t intend. That’s been resolved with just optimizations to the cut path and a revised design that works within the machine’s limits. In the process we reduced the taper and also lengthened the cut so more material could be removed.

    Below is a photo showing the FL-5 error were the cutter changed milling widths/depths unintentionally.



    Below is an image of the revised machining of the FL-5 which is much cleaner, longer and more consistent.



    Sample photos

    We have have one 18x10” ET25 SM-10 Anthracite sample in our possession right now. We’ll be receiving 3 more samples over the coming weeks of the FL-5 and SM-10 design in various sizes and concavity profiles.

    Below are detail shots of the 18x10” ET25 Anthracite wheel out in the sun.
















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    NEW APEX FL-5 Production Sample is Here!

    The first production sample of the APEX FL-5 wheel has arrived! This is a 18x10” ET25 FL-5 in Anthracite sample. We’ll be receiving more samples over the coming weeks of the FL-5 and SM-10 design in various sizes and concavity profiles.

    Below are detail shots of the 18x10” ET25 Anthracite wheel out in the sun.

    Sample photos


















    FL-5 Revision details

    The FL-5 already had a radius cut, but the lack of 5 axis machining was causing the cutter to not track correctly. The mill took excess material off the wheel in an area we didn’t intend. That’s been resolved with just optimizations to the cut path and a revised design that works within the machine’s limits. In the process we reduced the taper and also lengthened the cut so more material could be removed.

    Below is a photo showing the FL-5 error were the cutter changed milling widths/depths unintentionally.



    Below is an image of the revised machining of the FL-5 which is much cleaner, longer and more consistent.


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