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Thread: EWS Update - INPA Error Code **Solved**

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    Question EWS Update - INPA Error Code **Solved**

    So, after waiting a few days, I finally got my OBD-I & II cables in. Borrowed a friends laptop and started up INPA. I scrolled through some of the options, found EWS under Chassis I believe and when selecting it, I get the error "IFH-0009: NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROL UNIT"

    I went into the DME, I started read the codes and found (3) codes: Translate from German..fyi German in parenthesis ()

    108 Interruption Duration Supply (Unterbrechung Dauerversorgung)
    Error Frequency: 1

    204 EWS 3.3 Change Code Storage (Wechselcode-Abspeicherung)
    Error Frequency: 1

    148 EWS 3.3 Interface DME-EWS (Schnittstelle)
    Error Frequency: 8

    Am I looking at a new EWS? I called the dealer, dealer stated the EWS would be coded already like a key, so I would need registration and such. Does that mean its plug & play? $140ish for new EWS. There is a relay next to the EWS, I plugged in another one and the horn started going off randomly. I tried DME-EWS Alignment, but, my DIS software isn't recognizing the cable.. so It won't connect to the car.
    Last edited by Southern740iL; 09-24-2016 at 12:10 AM.

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    When you used INPA did you get both Black dots telling you that you have a connection ? for me I had to run a battery charger to the car to get DIS or INPA work at all ( even though it has a brand new interstate ) . I had the best luck with Progman in aligning my DME-EWS nothing else worked for me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by setconstr View Post
    When you used INPA did you get both Black dots telling you that you have a connection ? for me I had to run a battery charger to the car to get DIS or INPA work at all ( even though it has a brand new interstate ) . I had the best luck with Progman in aligning my DME-EWS nothing else worked for me .
    Yes. I have both black-dots on. I read the DME codes and it found the car information. I can not for the life of me get DIS working, which from what I read, its the easiest to align them. I will give Progman a shot tomorrow.

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    [UPDATE]

    Before going to the dealer, I went ahead and checked all the relays and all tested good. Next I checked and cleaned the ignition switch, all was well in there. So, here are my facts:

    - Relays are good.
    - Ignition switch is good.
    - DME good.
    - EWS showed 2 errors, as well as "NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROL UNIT" when attempting to align EWS-DME. Also, No Response when going into EWS from INPA.

    That has made think its the EWS. I went to the dealer and said my EWS was superseded 4 times, meaning updated part. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a new EWS for $120. I will report when solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern740iL View Post
    [UPDATE]

    Before going to the dealer, I went ahead and checked all the relays and all tested good. Next I checked and cleaned the ignition switch, all was well in there. So, here are my facts:

    - Relays are good.
    - Ignition switch is good.
    - DME good.
    - EWS showed 2 errors, as well as "NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROL UNIT" when attempting to align EWS-DME. Also, No Response when going into EWS from INPA.

    That has made think its the EWS. I went to the dealer and said my EWS was superseded 4 times, meaning updated part. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a new EWS for $120. I will report when solved.
    Not a bad price for a new ews. Sounds like that may be the issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplecty View Post
    Not a bad price for a new ews. Sounds like that may be the issue...
    Going to hope so. Like keys, a new EWS is non-returnable. I'll know when I put the module in the car and align it

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    Red face [SOLVED] No Crank - EWS Suspected

    [SOLVED] - Add one to the solved list. After much testing and searching, turns out my suspicions on a faulty EWS turned out to be right. After installing, the vehicle started cranking and after aligning the DME-EWS in INPA, I got fuel and it started. Now I have a faulty mass-airflow and bad alternator.

    Symptom(s):


    • No Crank


    Test(s):


    • Checked all fuses and relays.
    • Checked ignition switch.
    • Replaced battery with new.


    Diagnosis:


    • Scanned with INPA; attempted to scan EWS and failed. Tried to align DME-EWS and got "NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROL UNIT"


    Suspected Failure:


    • EWS.


    SOLUTION:


    • Purchase new EWS from dealer. Upon install, the vehicle would crank but not start. Upon aligning DME-EWS, vehicle immediately fired up.

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    How did you align The EWS-DME in INPA ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrobsbmw View Post
    How did you align The EWS-DME in INPA ?
    Shift + F9 > Select E38 and DME > Shift + F6 > F2

    Shift + F6 brings you into alignment menu, then there are two options. F1 and F2, I did F2 and it aligned.

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    Threads merged.

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    Yup. I figured this would help someone down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern740iL View Post
    Shift + F9 > Select E38 and DME > Shift + F6 > F2

    Shift + F6 brings you into alignment menu, then there are two options. F1 and F2, I did F2 and it aligned.
    As above in what you said. Their should be some else to select. Something like version... 7.3 6.1 or some horrid part that I cannot remember. Sometime after SHIFT+F6 I believe. How do I know which one i should select. My car is a 525TDS salon 1997 year. Exaxctly the same issues. Car failed the 1st day after I bought it. Now can hardly start the dam thing. Wont crank at all. Just a click and nothing... light sna DINGS can be heard. If i hold EWS in my hand, I can feel a small kick and click. remove key, then a small kick click can be felt and heard from EWS. Launch scan tool says power to restart as an Error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinlucking View Post
    As above in what you said. Their should be some else to select. Something like version... 7.3 6.1 or some horrid part that I cannot remember. Sometime after SHIFT+F6 I believe. How do I know which one i should select. My car is a 525TDS salon 1997 year. Exaxctly the same issues. Car failed the 1st day after I bought it. Now can hardly start the dam thing. Wont crank at all. Just a click and nothing... light sna DINGS can be heard. If i hold EWS in my hand, I can feel a small kick and click. remove key, then a small kick click can be felt and heard from EWS. Launch scan tool says power to restart as an Error.
    If you hear a click and it's from the starter it sounds like it may be a potential battery or starter issue. A bad key or ews will give you no clicking at all...

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    My issue is extremely similar to this.

    The 148 code is present but not the 108 & 204. Before reading the errors, I was going to grab a new key as I need a new key anyway. The 148 doesn't lead me to believe that it's the key, but the EWS (3.3) instead. My side issue is I can't read most of the modules via INPA either through the OBD1 or OBD2 ports. I can read the DME memory and other analog/digital values, but I cannot read most of the other modules.

    I have not tried to align the EWS, should I try this first? I was reluctant to try due to there possibly being a downside. I have the battery terminals disconnected right now (don't think it's going to fix it tbh)

    edit: turns out the key was bad. If error 148 is present without other errors, I would strongly suggest buying a valey key to test the immobilizer function.
    Last edited by niklecce123; 04-25-2023 at 07:50 AM. Reason: more details

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    Still hunting this issue down. I got a new EWS 4 from the dealer programmed to my VIN. I flashed my DME to the latest version and then synced the new EWS to my DME. The car started fine.

    Just yesterday, the engine would only crank. I then reset the errors & resynced in INPA. Problem is, I come out of the grocery store and it doesn't crank or start, but I feel a clicking sound. I tried jumping the car with a jump pack and a running vehicle and it will not crank now.

    When I reset the errors & resync with resetting the rolling keys, I now get "Start value not understood, transmission error" (Startwert nicht verstanden, Uebertragungsfehler).

    Any thoughts here?

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