Discussion thread for Z3/M cars on BAT and other for sale/auction sites

[lapoune]

pretty cool...not a fan of the supercharger and AC delete though

[MartyBtoo]

pretty cool...not a fan of the supercharger and AC delete though

+1. Not a fan of AC delete for a street car, and you wouldn't be able to register it in California with the supercharger anyway.

Marty

[Watch Carefully]

+1. Not a fan of AC delete for a street car...

I agree.
With the removal of AC and the replacement of leather seats with carbon fiber, I'm guessing the owner who originally had it modified was expecting only to use it on the track, or for sporadic street use. It seems it was also modified only to the level that returning it to stock (comfort features, anyway) would be fairly easy.

[Watch Carefully]

A nice clean, largely unmolested, and (basically) one-owner 2.8 Roadster is up on BaT.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-bmw-z3-15/

I'm curious how that strut brace helps the handling. It's been 25 years since I had anything like that (in my '86 GTI), and I remember it (and other suspension mods) meant I cracked my windshield on occasion. Perhaps on a roadster, it doesn't transfer as much flex into the A pillar. Would there be any ramifications on the rear subframe if the front is stiffened in this manner?

[Dakar Ole]

A nice clean, largely unmolested, and (basically) one-owner 2.8 Roadster is up on BaT.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-bmw-z3-15/

I'm curious how that strut brace helps the handling. It's been 25 years since I had anything like that (in my '86 GTI), and I remember it (and other suspension mods) meant I cracked my windshield on occasion. Perhaps on a roadster, it doesn't transfer as much flex into the A pillar. Would there be any ramifications on the rear subframe if the front is stiffened in this manner?

Can you believe how few threads are engaged on those strut tower bolts?

[s8ilver]

Can you believe how few threads are engaged on those strut tower bolts?

Good eye! My SS bar seems to fully engage the threads, but they're acorn nuts so I guess I've never really confirmed. I never really thought about it much either, but now I'll have to look at mine more closely.

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A nice clean, largely unmolested, and (basically) one-owner 2.8 Roadster is up on BaT.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-bmw-z3-15/

I'm curious how that strut brace helps the handling. It's been 25 years since I had anything like that (in my '86 GTI), and I remember it (and other suspension mods) meant I cracked my windshield on occasion. Perhaps on a roadster, it doesn't transfer as much flex into the A pillar. Would there be any ramifications on the rear subframe if the front is stiffened in this manner?

I don't think these bars do much beyond reduce cowl "shake" a bit, but they do look nice. I've got an eBay sourced DINAN bar for the Coupe, but I'm only allowed to install it after I rebuild my VANOS. Don't ask me how long I've been planning to do that job.

[s8ilver]

6 figures.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=527179137

[z3forlife]

40 pics and not one interior or engine bay shot. They’re smokin the good stuff

[s8ilver]

40 pics and not one interior or engine bay shot. They’re smokin the good stuff

Another 61 photos here:
https://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/li...istingID=18944

[Watch Carefully]

White normally makes me think of rental cars, but this combination of white exterior with the 2-tone interior really looks sharp.
I am very curious what final price it fetches.
What was original MSRP on a final year M coupe...Something under $60k?

[BimmerBreaker]

Sure its 1 of 1 but its not the most desirable combo. Curious to see where it ends up. I suspect it will be listed for quite awhile and slowly disappear off sales sites or show up on BaT or at EAG...

[JoshS]

What was original MSRP on a final year M coupe...Something under $60k?

$46K.


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[Watch Carefully]

$46K.

A bargain.

FYI, an M roady is about to close on BaT. No spot-weld photos, apparently.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-m-roadster-9/

This 2002 BMW M Roadster is finished in Black Sapphire Metallic over black and is powered by a 3.2-liter S54 inline-six mated to a five-speed manual transmission. The car spent time in Delaware and New Jersey before moving to Pennsylvania with the seller’s acquisition in 2006. Features include Style 40 alloy wheels, a black soft top, and heated leather seats, and an oil change was reportedly performed earlier this year. Now showing 61k miles, this M Roadster is offered with factory documentation and tools, a clean Carfax report, and a clean Pennsylvania title.

[z3forlife]

Another 61 photos here:
https://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/li...istingID=18944

But still no engine bay shots. At a 104K I’d spend another 100K and get a Z8 but I prefer a roadster anyway.

[s8ilver]

But still no engine bay shots. At a 104K I’d spend another 100K and get a Z8 but I prefer a roadster anyway.

I think I do too. Don't get me wrong, I love my Coupe. But top down, supercharger whining and those quad exhaust tips doing their thing really sing to me. I can be doing 35mph in the Roadster and have more fun than 100mph in the Coupe. In fact, +100mph in a Z3 is just scary IMO.

And you're right. If you can drop $104k on a Z3, why not have a Z8?

Found my perfect spec:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

[Watch Carefully]

Found my perfect spec:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

In Miami, huh? Better be 100% sure it was never flooded!

[BimmerBreaker]

BaT seems like the place to get slightly below retail value for M roadsters lol...

M Coupes dont do super well on their either. I kind of have to wonder why, since tons of other models (non-M E46 convertibles, E39s, etc) do really well for some reason

[z3forlife]

I think I do too. Don't get me wrong, I love my Coupe. But top down, supercharger whining and those quad exhaust tips doing their thing really sing to me. I can be doing 35mph in the Roadster and have more fun than 100mph in the Coupe. In fact, +100mph in a Z3 is just scary IMO.

And you're right. If you can drop $104k on a Z3, why not have a Z8?

Found my perfect spec:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

Thats a purdy one fer sure. I like the color matched wind screen, too bad we didn’t have that option afaik. I have noticed that the M does seem a bit scarier at high speed than my old 2.3 did. I drove it at 100mph+ quite a bit and it felt so solid. The staggered setup might have something to do with it.

[pine1000]

Looks like BAT has added a Z3 category under BMW along with M Roadster and M Coupe. I don't remember seeing that before.

https://bringatrailer.com/bmw/

[magnetchief]

They should split the Z3 into Roadster and coupe.

The high coupe prices skew the details.


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[pine1000]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...m-roadster-32/

Only 32k miles and went for $14k.

[pwhitt]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...m-roadster-32/

Only 32k miles and went for $14k.

oh, oh, oh, that was a nice one too... i can't believe that price.

see, crap like this makes me wonder why i'm dumping money into my 2.5L with 130k on it... but too late, i made a commitment. :P

[TexaZ3]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...m-roadster-32/

Only 32k miles and went for $14k.

Looks like odo rollback and an accident on it.

[CB750]

Looks like odo rollback and an accident on it.

Yeah, although it's a nice-looking car, I'm skeptical of the 32k mileage; the steering wheel and shift knob look to be too "smooth and shiny" and the seat wear is a bit more than I would expect.
It does appear to be in pretty good condition, other than the hack job on the sew-in top window.
A clean CARFAX report is better than nothing, but is in no way proof that the car has led an accident-free life.

[workhurts]

And it’s in Canada.