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    what's your point? i've made no misrepresentations of my kit, all info in this thread is accurate. if you want to ask a question, no need to hold back, just ask it
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    I guess I'm not the only one at a loss from that post, huh? Haha

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    You wrote these ridiculous mini-novellas arguing against the fact that Sean's kit makes steering faster.

    And here you are selling a kit that you advertise quicker steering, second only to it inexplicably glowing in the dark.

    Other than that, though, I read through the post, is there any means of using these with a stock E46 balljoint/arm? I don't recall the specifics.

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    angle kits inherently change how far the wheels move per turn of the steering wheel (i.e. speed), but not the total number of times you can turn the steering wheel (i.e. X turns lock-to-lock). unless they incorporate some sort of bumpstop into the kit or you wind up with some gnarly wheel clearance issues

    they'll bolt on to e46 arms just fine, but unless they're the early model arms i don't see much point in using them. any frame clearance the newer ones give you is offset heavily by their lack of arm clearance

    Popular engine swap weights & stock engine weights
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    m20b27 + g260 - 497lbs
    m52b25 vanos + g250 - 544lbs

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    aluminum block + t56 - 609lbs
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    E46 arms on E36s will give you something. Without a longer arm, you hit the frame before you hit the control arm. So the E46 arm will push things out so now you can hit the control arm! Which is still MUCH better than stock.

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    Aw yea! What you going to do for arms?

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    i've got stock arms right now. not sure what i'm going to do yet.
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    find someone to cut and weld them longer I suppose

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    Damn, I didn't realize the control arms would need lengthening for these to work... So with stock length arms you get quicker steering, bump steer correction, and reduced ackerman, but no extra angle, huh?

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    I wouldn't say NO extra angle. You get as much as your car physically allows before you hit something. Jalopi (dave) can show you where to get limiters so you can lock your tie rods before you hit your frame. E30s have very little space but E36s should be able to get more. Just not ALL of the angle.

    This kit is designed as a "Starter" set. You put it on, get what you can get, then get better control arms later.

    IMO E46 control arms will help you get more angle. But depending on a lot of things, you'll hit the control arm before you hit the frame.

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    i'd been trying to source early e46 arms for the past year with no luck, which is why i'm on stock arms still. there's a 99 3 series at the local yard so i might go in and check if it still has the original arms on it.
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    aaah just go with the aluminum ones. Is there literal proof you hit the control arm with the angle blocks?

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    idk. just read on driftworks about people hitting with the redesign models. although i'm not sure how the blocks would affect that.
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    I barely touch the late e46 arm with my angle kit (pretty much same same) at full lock with a 17x8 +13 wheel. Meanwhile I was rubbing frame rail with stock control arms and rack spacers with a 17x7+20 wheel. With stock lca and this kit I'm sure you'll hit real soon with a stock/ higher offset wheel

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    i have only one good thing to say about the updated e46 arms, and it's that they're better for your tires (only if you're stretched a bit). because if you have angle mods, in most cases the wheel WILL hit the arm before the tire hits the frame. even if you have cheap wheels, the wheel will outlast the arm... the arm basically becomes a consumable. this is the kind of gouging my arms experienced from the two-ish years' worth of events i completed with the v8 e30, plus some street driving (though street driving wasn't anywhere near full lock, so that's not a real factor)




    the red circles are from 16x8 et0 XXR 513 wheels, the green ones are from 17x8.25 et-5 XXR 535 wheels
    Last edited by jalopi; 08-09-2016 at 03:36 PM.
    Popular engine swap weights & stock engine weights
    M42 + trans - 427lbs
    302 + t5 trans - 475lbs
    m20b27 + g260 - 497lbs
    m52b25 vanos + g250 - 544lbs

    351w + t5 trans - 572.5lbs
    LS,
    aluminum block + t56 - 609lbs
    LS, iron block + t56 - 719lbs, EST.
    http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...60-m42-1jz-2jz

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    i'm using factory e46 wheels. style 73 i think. i also found out one of them is about to break on me lol whoops.


    2016.08.08 cracking front wheel by George, on Flickr

    edit: i think maybe i'll pick up some cheap updated arms.
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    holy crap that's bad... but a weird place to crack. maybe it's just the paint?
    Popular engine swap weights & stock engine weights
    M42 + trans - 427lbs
    302 + t5 trans - 475lbs
    m20b27 + g260 - 497lbs
    m52b25 vanos + g250 - 544lbs

    351w + t5 trans - 572.5lbs
    LS,
    aluminum block + t56 - 609lbs
    LS, iron block + t56 - 719lbs, EST.
    http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...60-m42-1jz-2jz

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    looks like that's just paint cracking to me lol but back to rubbing on the e46 LCAs... wouldn't huuuuuge wheel spacers help? im running 40mm spacers and ET20 wheels just to clear at full lock on my slr kit. and thats with baby 215/40's on an 8 inch wide wheel.

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    yup they will, but it's a tradeoff, you might wind up hitting the front/back of the fenders and/or wheel wells with humongo spacers. you can hack away at fenders all day, but dealing with the wells is a bit trickier
    Popular engine swap weights & stock engine weights
    M42 + trans - 427lbs
    302 + t5 trans - 475lbs
    m20b27 + g260 - 497lbs
    m52b25 vanos + g250 - 544lbs

    351w + t5 trans - 572.5lbs
    LS,
    aluminum block + t56 - 609lbs
    LS, iron block + t56 - 719lbs, EST.
    http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...60-m42-1jz-2jz

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    I run 215/40s on a 17. something like a -20 total offset on an 8 wide lol.

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    Im running 245/40r17 on 17x8 et20 wheels paired with 35mm spacers. I clear my frame just barely (would rub sway bar if I had one) and I rub on my SLR Ultra arms actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalopi View Post
    alright everyone, here's some more info about the kit: if using stock control arms, both inner and outer tie rods need to be modified on the e36 e30s might be able to get away with using their stock tie rods, but odds are high that they will need modified e36 tie rods as well e46s, on the other hand, seem to have it easy. looks like a stock inner tie rod and a stock e36 outer tie rod will fit perfectly however, i don't have access to actual e30/46 cars to test this out on, only knuckles and control arms. SO, with that in mind, i'm willing to offer an additional discount on top of the intro price for one e30 and e46 person to confirm this for me anyway, here's pics of what's needed to get the tie rods to the correct length if people are interested in having me do this as well, i'll probably start stocking tie rods. for any of my first-batch guys, i'll modify tie rods for free, just cover shipping. just to clarify, the outer tie rods will be machined like the inner i did, not ground like the outer in the pictures speaking of shipping, looks like i'll be ready to start shipping kits out this friday!
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    Whelp i finished making two sets of control arms



    Unfortunately, neither is for sale, one set is for my car and the other is for a friend

    They do have glow paint, but it was dark when I got home so they weren't glowing very bright during my "photoshoot". I'll let em charge up this afternoon and snap some pix

    They started life as 100% brand new Meyle HD control arms, not some cheap ebay bullshit arms with rubber isolated outer balljoints

    Just so there's no confusion, they're still using the Meyle HD balljoints, those discs in the balljoint holes are simply there to protect the machined surface of the balljoint hole from paint

    Based on measurements i took years ago, e90 inner tie rods + e36 outers will work just fine, but I will confirm this before taking orders


    Within the next week or two I'd like to order up six more sets to modify. I also don't like taking money from people before being ready to ship a product out, but I'd like to know that I at least have three people that'd be committed to buy before I ordered the arms up (no actual commitment, just a verbal one)



    I'm about to get a little daring here - the cost will be four presidents typically featured in urban music genres, plus whatever i get quoted for shipping. If you already bought my blocks (or want to order them at the same time - for just two formerly mentioned presidents until i run out of inventory!) the cost is reduced by one union general

    Hit me up if you've got any questions, either in this thread or via PM, i'm not picky
    Last edited by jalopi; 08-27-2016 at 10:04 AM.
    Popular engine swap weights & stock engine weights
    M42 + trans - 427lbs
    302 + t5 trans - 475lbs
    m20b27 + g260 - 497lbs
    m52b25 vanos + g250 - 544lbs

    351w + t5 trans - 572.5lbs
    LS,
    aluminum block + t56 - 609lbs
    LS, iron block + t56 - 719lbs, EST.
    http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...60-m42-1jz-2jz

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