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Thread: Looking into making an MSPNP Pro for the M50 and M52 engines

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    I'm needing something to learn / do on my E36 cmon guys!!! Cant wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody5788 View Post
    I really tried to do an MS3x on mine, for the life of me I just couldn't get it to run, PNP kit and after correcting some power issues that were caused by not having the correct relay I was able to start it first try.
    Blaine was able to find the errors in the wiring diagram. At this time he is doing final wiring clean up and should be on ms for the next few years.

    We did just realize the knock sensor input requires the knock module :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mklock View Post
    I'm needing something to learn / do on my E36 cmon guys!!! Cant wait.
    Convert the engine to OBD1. It'll make the same power either way!!

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    Bump hopefully there will be some updates on what's going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolx7 View Post
    Bump hopefully there will be some updates on what's going on
    We're starting to get the initial production run on the Mustang one that's delaying this one. I'll see if we can avoid giving people on this forum an excuse to go with the unauthorized Keine Dokumentation Fuhr Ihre ripoffs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    We're starting to get the initial production run on the Mustang one that's delaying this one. I'll see if we can avoid giving people on this forum an excuse to go with the unauthorized Keine Dokumentation Fuhr Ihre ripoffs...
    You can't rip off what someone else doesn't make.


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    You can't rip off what someone else doesn't make.
    They're running MS2/Extra code without any authorization or paying any attention to the code licensing terms.
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    Hey Matt, we about ready to get the ball rolling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimsR View Post
    Hey Matt, we about ready to get the ball rolling?
    Lol you got me excited with a notification, but glad to know at least this didnt get abandoned

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    I'm afraid these aren't the updates you want, but they're the updates I've got.

    The first of the Mustang plug and play units is out, and we're finishing up the tune on the second. Unfortunately, the supercharged Cobra had a fuel pump issue. Hopefully a new fuel pump and a dyno session is all that's standing in the way of this one to be released.

    IMG_20190910_1437335081.jpg
    With the EEC-V Fords, we were able to approach development on several different models at the same time on a common PCB, which can be populated differently for different models. There's two or three more that are slated to be released in that line before we can free up resources to take on more projects.

    After that, there is one potential MS3Pro PNP that may compete with the OBD2 one for R&D resources, but the other project in the running is a much simpler model than the 4.6 development project and it's likely that if we don't focus exclusively on the OBD2 BMW that we'd be able to work on both concurrently.

    In the meantime, I've been working on a different inline six. Finally got the new setup to make some significant boost, but now I've got to drop the oil pan for a rear main seal replacement before I dyno it.

    turbo close up.jpg turbo engine compartment.jpg finally - some boost.png
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    thats great news @Matt Cramer keep it up , when your ready with the bmw pnp for obd2 ill be sure to pick one up. following this post and keeping an eye out for updates.

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    *bump

    Any updates for Christmas?

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    Are there still any hopes on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Mylo View Post
    Are there still any hopes on this?
    It's on the list of projects we want to complete by the end of 2020. We're in the process of getting the R&D schedule for the next year nailed down, but we're getting it on the to-do list.
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    Okay cool. Not sure if this has been answered previously but how good will this work with a digital dash? One of my all time favorite mods in racing/street cars is a digital dash and I've always wanted one. Haltech just released their IC-7 digital dash which works with obd2 as well as CAN. I've asked a few people how responsive it is and how accurate but havent had any feedback yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    It's on the list of projects we want to complete by the end of 2020. We're in the process of getting the R&D schedule for the next year nailed down, but we're getting it on the to-do list.
    If you need any help with this I would be happy to do any testing for free. I have a 1996 M3 with a VF supercharger kit. I am a programmer by trade and work with embedded systems a lot. I'm also good with an oscilloscope, meter, soldering iron, etc so I would be able to make changes in the harness and take readings, etc. I'm in the Tampa area Florida. I'm sure you got all this under control but I figured I'd throw out the offer nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Mylo View Post
    Okay cool. Not sure if this has been answered previously but how good will this work with a digital dash? One of my all time favorite mods in racing/street cars is a digital dash and I've always wanted one. Haltech just released their IC-7 digital dash which works with obd2 as well as CAN. I've asked a few people how responsive it is and how accurate but havent had any feedback yet.
    We have a roundup of what displays are known to work at this link:

    https://www.diyautotune.com/support/...displays-data/

    Previous Haltech dashes have been rebadged Racepak units; the IC-7 was just announced, and I haven't had time to look into it.
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    I'd be interested in the S52 group buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagTech View Post
    I'd be interested in the S52 group buy.
    Got it, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    Got it, thanks!
    Any updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Mylo View Post
    Okay cool. Not sure if this has been answered previously but how good will this work with a digital dash? One of my all time favorite mods in racing/street cars is a digital dash and I've always wanted one. Haltech just released their IC-7 digital dash which works with obd2 as well as CAN. I've asked a few people how responsive it is and how accurate but havent had any feedback yet.

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    The IC-7 looks nice and one of the lowest prices I have seen for a dash. Haven't seen any feedback on it though.

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    Can you add me to the OBD2 group buy please

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    Surprise: It's a real update! No, the group buy hasn't opened just yet; we're not that far along. But we're starting work on developing an OBD2 cam sensor interface circuit. We'll see if this works, or, worst case, we may need to include a kit to swap in a suitable cam sensor. But we'd like to get this going with 100% stock sensors to keep down cost and installation time.
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