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Thread: Looking into making an MSPNP Pro for the M50 and M52 engines

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    OK, I have updated the sign up list.
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    Put me down for obd1 cheers

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    Put me in for obd2 s52. Lets get the ball rolling here
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    You can take me off the list, I already have an ms3pro in hand and I'm working with another forum member local to me on making our own pnp. Thanks and good luck with this venture, will definitely be a great leap forward for the m/s5x platform!

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    OK, I've got this updated. We now have 4 OBD1 and 17 OBD2 sign ups.
    Matt Cramer
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    Dang it now I just want to sell my kit I made and buy the PNP kit haha.
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    If this doesn't get traction any time soon, knowing my track record both my cars will be sold before this hits the market....


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    Read the thread stupid robot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    Read the thread stupid robot.
    😂😂

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    Is this for real? I need one... I've been looking everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snq View Post
    Is this for real? I need one... I've been looking everywhere.
    It's a real offer, which we hope to turn into a real product. We've currently got it penciled in to get started in the last quarter of this year, but can give it a bit more priority if we get 20 pre-orders.
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    Where is dburt ? He is good for at least 1 maybe 2 hopefully 3=20.

    Maybe a vendor can pre order as well ? Then resell ?

    Is there any other people interested on any other sites ? Can someone link this to M3 forum or one of the others ?

    Only need 3 more.
    Last edited by Butters Stoch; 08-15-2016 at 11:22 AM.
    1996 332IS
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    CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
    Technique Tuning 80# tune.
    1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
    Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    Where is dburt ? He is good for at least 1 maybe 2 hopefully 3=20.

    Maybe a vendor can pre order as well ? Then resell ?

    Is there any other people interested on any other sites ? Can someone link this to M3 forum or one of the others ?

    Only need 3 more.

    Haha, ive got 4 installs going on right now. 1 dsm and 3 turbo s5x/m5x's.

    I think alot of my customers are like me, un able to do long term commitments.

    Its hard for people to plan that far ahead unless they are in the beginning stages of planning a build. Most of what i do is converting cars from stock DME's to megasquirts. Couple of the cars now are long term projects that could have been apart of this had it been started a couple months ago.

    Either way, Im a massive supporter of this project, even though it will directly effect my bottom line. Its a good product with good support, and its exactly what 99% of the cars in this forum need.
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    Sign me up for OBD1


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    Nevermind
    Last edited by somebody5788; 08-16-2016 at 03:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody5788 View Post
    Depends, technically you can do something like that with table switching but most of us are going to delete the MAF completely for Forced Induction reasons and just run a MAP sensor with Speed Density tuning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    Where is dburt ? He is good for at least 1 maybe 2 hopefully 3=20.

    Maybe a vendor can pre order as well ? Then resell ?

    Is there any other people interested on any other sites ? Can someone link this to M3 forum or one of the others ?

    Only need 3 more.
    Yep, we'd welcome a pre-order from a vendor; it wouldn't need much to push this one up in the queue at this point.

    Any turbo kit manufactures interested in offering some extra tuning options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    Yep, we'd welcome a pre-order from a vendor; it wouldn't need much to push this one up in the queue at this point.

    Any turbo kit manufactures interested in offering some extra tuning options?

    It really could complete some off the shelf turbo kits.
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    18 OBD2 sign ups now... two more and I'll see if the boss can put this on the front burner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    18 OBD2 sign ups now... two more and I'll see if the boss can put this on the front burner.
    If you find out this is going into production soon and have a solid timeframe for release I would jump back in for an OBD2. Quick question, with the traction control would I have to use the ABS wheel speed sensors as inputs to the MS3? I only ask because I completely removed my ABS system, but could re-install the sensors on all four corners if required. If ABS sensors are required, could I use the signal straight from the sensor, or would I have to condition it somehow?

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    Well, does that make 20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s13flyboy View Post
    Well, does that make 20?
    I'm ready to commit, just need solid info on development priority and a reasonable timeline to the end product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrecklessfool View Post
    If you find out this is going into production soon and have a solid timeframe for release I would jump back in for an OBD2. Quick question, with the traction control would I have to use the ABS wheel speed sensors as inputs to the MS3? I only ask because I completely removed my ABS system, but could re-install the sensors on all four corners if required. If ABS sensors are required, could I use the signal straight from the sensor, or would I have to condition it somehow?

    Couple different strategies but the most effective is taking a front wheel speed (from a ABS sensor) and comparing it to your driven wheel speed (diff sensor)

    You wouldnt need all 4 ABS sensors, you would just need a single front wheel sensor.
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