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Thread: Looking into making an MSPNP Pro for the M50 and M52 engines

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    Right now we have four sign ups for OBD1 and sixteen for OBD2. Unless we get more sign-ups, the tentative plan is to start the OBD2 development (and start collecting money) winter this year, and we hope to have the system out within 2-3 months of getting the group buy payments and the test car.
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    So March 2017 delivery?

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    There's always VEMS ready to rock in you have the itch

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    There's always VEMS ready to rock in you have the itch
    I want both
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    At last,,guys that know BMW more then puuntang.... Guys please i need help with advice..
    i have an 2000 model e46 323ci convertible with the m52tub25 engine and as you know it has only 170hp..damn even my brothers peugeot partner diesel is faster then it..so i need more power and my goal is 500Whp..
    im thinking turbo or engine swap..
    if i do turbo,i need to get it teared down and re do the hole engine and its not worth it..
    engine swap to an s54 turbo or a newer n54/n55b30 hell im even thinking 2jz, either way.

    so What do you guys recommend
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    Quote Originally Posted by 08shaban View Post
    At last,,guys that know BMW more then puuntang.... Guys please i need help with advice..
    i have an 2000 model e46 323ci convertible with the m52tub25 engine and as you know it has only 170hp..damn even my brothers peugeot partner diesel is faster then it..so i need more power and my goal is 500Whp..
    im thinking turbo or engine swap..
    if i do turbo,i need to get it teared down and re do the hole engine and its not worth it..
    engine swap to an s54 turbo or a newer n54/n55b30 hell im even thinking 2jz, either way.

    so What do you guys recommend
    Please start a new thread for this. This is not the place for this question.


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    Hello, guys. Got VEMS installed and running on car. I cannot understand what vanos table units are? I have m52 engine, which I suppose have simple on/off vanos. What numbers are on or off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauchuk View Post
    Hello, guys. Got VEMS installed and running on car. I cannot understand what vanos table units are? I have m52 engine, which I suppose have simple on/off vanos. What numbers are on or off?

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    Probably best to start a new thread on this since its a question about a different system.
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    Maybe You could tell me where to start, so I do not get judged a lot?

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    Who cares man, start a thread. Someone will help. If anyone gives you s&*t or judges you, they are pathetic losers who weigh 350# and have dried BBQ sauce on their fat rolls and probably haven't seen their d**k in two years

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    pahahaha, thanks

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    If you have not posted the question on the VEMS support forum, that is a good place to start: http://www.vemssupport.com/forum/

    Some of the other members who use VEMS might jump in and answer you if they have not already.

    Unfortunately, my engine does not have VANOS so I have not dealt with the configuration of it and do not know how to guide you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cragg56 View Post
    So March 2017 delivery?

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    We're at 18 OBD2 sign ups now... if we can get two more, we can give this a big bump up in priority.
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    Flip me to OBD2 if it will speed things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaze View Post
    Flip me to OBD2 if it will speed things up
    That was including you. Just looking for two more sign ups.
    Matt Cramer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
    We're at 18 OBD2 sign ups now... if we can get two more, we can give this a big bump up in priority.
    Matt,

    I'm going to have to bow out on this one. Unfortunately I don't think I can wait as long as it's likely to take to get this done. May look into it down the road though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrecklessfool View Post
    matt,

    i'm going to have to bow out on this one. Unfortunately i don't think i can wait as long as it's likely to take to get this done. May look into it down the road though.
    smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrecklessfool View Post
    Matt,

    I'm going to have to bow out on this one. Unfortunately I don't think I can wait as long as it's likely to take to get this done. May look into it down the road though.
    Hope this doesn't set us back any further!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaze View Post
    smh
    Yeah, yeah. I hear ya. When I initially jumped on the wagon the deal was hit 10 buyers and production begins. Then it was hit 20 or 25 and we'll look at starting the work this winter which means a spring release; if not later. So here I am with a car set up to run a stock ECU and no "band-aid" solution to get me by until this thing is released. So yeah, I'm out of this one and I'll get my stock dme tuned for my car so it's at least driveable.

    Not a dig at Matt because the production start is out of his hands, but the dates that are being floated for production and release seem to be very loose to me. Just ask yourself if you would put all your eggs into this basket now, or get your car on the road and look into the MS3 tuning down the line. Peace out

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrecklessfool View Post

    Yeah, yeah. I hear ya. When I initially jumped on the wagon the deal was hit 10 buyers and production begins. Then it was hit 20 or 25 and we'll look at starting the work this winter which means a spring release; if not later. So here I am with a car set up to run a stock ECU and no "band-aid" solution to get me by until this thing is released. So yeah, I'm out of this one and I'll get my stock dme tuned for my car so it's at least driveable.

    Not a dig at Matt because the production start is out of his hands, but the dates that are being floated for production and release seem to be very loose to me. Just ask yourself if you would put all your eggs into this basket now, or get your car on the road and look into the MS3 tuning down the line. Peace out
    If its in your budget, do both. Get a stock DME tune, drive/race etc, then when you have time make the 10min switch , play with the tuning. That way your not stuck rushing through the tuning, also can have fun with the turbo noise while you get it perfected.
    I think that's how most of us wimps are treating it.
    1996 332IS
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    CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
    Technique Tuning 80# tune.
    1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
    Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    If its in your budget, do both. Get a stock DME tune, drive/race etc, then when you have time make the 10min switch , play with the tuning. That way your not stuck rushing through the tuning, also can have fun with the turbo noise while you get it perfected.
    I think that's how most of us wimps are treating it.
    That's the plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrecklessfool View Post

    That's the plan
    Maybe stay on the list ?
    Looks like there is plenty of time to gather funds ?
    Last edited by Butters Stoch; 07-23-2016 at 05:16 PM.
    1996 332IS
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    CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
    Technique Tuning 80# tune.
    1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
    Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
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    That's what I'm doing as well. I was to be boosting this summer but that exploded into no possible but next spring is the new goal with a built engine.
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