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Thread: Looking into making an MSPNP Pro for the M50 and M52 engines

  1. #1151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
    I have a 2018, which has dual injection so the port injection part is taken care of. As far as plugging the DI ports, I did just finish restoring a WWII-era lathe so the world is kind of my oyster.
    Awesome, you should consider making a thread on here (if you haven't already) to document your swap... Good luck with it! If you're looking for inspiration on the plugs, maybe look at the Papadakis racing video where they go through this with the B58 engine for their drift Supra. He spun up some interferance fit plugs. While other retail solutions for say the N54 are full out CNC's injector dummies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    Awesome, you should consider making a thread on here (if you haven't already) to document your swap... Good luck with it! If you're looking for inspiration on the plugs, maybe look at the Papadakis racing video where they go through this with the B58 engine for their drift Supra. He spun up some interference fit plugs.
    I'll check that out for sure - great resource. I'm working on a build thread over on NoRotors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
    I'll check that out for sure - great resource. I'm working on a build thread over on NoRotors.
    Awesome! looks like a sweet project! Wasn't aware it was in an RX8!

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    Hey Matt,

    Any updates for us? At this rate, I'll have my MS41 custom tuned again and won't need it...
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    Hey Matt, you guys still in business? Was this project abandoned?

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    Love DIY, love Matt, but it's been almost 7 years... gonna punt on it

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    There's a person on FB group Boosted E36 World that makes an adapter pnp to make the ms3 work on a OBDII ..just have use the obd1 cam and crank sensor


    96 M3, GT4094R, Arrow Rods, CP Pistons, Elring HG, cutring 87mm, 10 mm ARP studs,MS3pro, EMC Intercooler, n54 6 speed with Motiv twin disk, ZT-2 wideband, Zionsville Radiator, X-brace, H&R springs with bilstien shocks, QTP electronic cutout, Line Locks, stock exhaust 455rwtq, 453rwhp at 14 psi 91 octane.......684rwtq, 681rwhp at 24 psi running flex fuel E60 at time of dyno tune.

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    ^^^I suppose a toothed crank pully would also need to be used in that configuration?

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    DIYAutotune is working on an OBD2 PNP megasquirt system for E36.

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    Does anyone know where to get a turbo m52b28 e85 basemap? Im thinking about a MS3pro PNP for my obd1 converted m52b28, but not having any luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsotak View Post
    Does anyone know where to get a turbo m52b28 e85 basemap? Im thinking about a MS3pro PNP for my obd1 converted m52b28, but not having any luck
    You looking at this MS3Pro PNP E36 ECU here? The basemap that's on it should actually be pretty close once you change the REQ_FUEL setting for E85's Stoich Air/Fuel Ratio of 9.8:1. The base map that comes on it will be setup for gasolines stoichiometric AFR of 14.7:1. It's a single setting change to get it pretty close. Cranking Pulsewidths may have to be tweaked a little as well, but it won't be too difficult at all I don't believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjaya29 View Post
    DIYAutotune is working on an OBD2 PNP megasquirt system for E36.
    Check the first post of this thread. They've been 'working' on it since 2016. Do you have anything new to add or do you just go around regurgitating the first post out of old ass threads?

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    There is no "real" benefit to this anymore. Anyone who wants to tune the factory ecu can now. And most people who want to run MS has the skills and knowhow to make their own harness. Obviously there is still a buyer pool but tuning the factory ecu checks all the boxes for a lot of people (myself included)
    Last edited by piku; 01-01-2023 at 07:13 PM.
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