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Thread: E36 Hater's Phase 3, AKA what's a budget build?

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    Final boost @ each power?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    Final boost @ each power?


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    570whp/510wtq was 15psi (controller off) in 3rd gear
    753whp/639wtq was 25psi in 3rd gear
    783whp/688wtq was 25psi in 4th gear
    869whp/688wtq was 29psi in 3rd gear.

    The tires were spinning on every run, and when we loaded the car up in 4th on 29psi it spun hard.

    Im happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36 HateR View Post
    570whp/510wtq was 15psi (controller off) in 3rd gear
    753whp/639wtq was 25psi in 3rd gear
    783whp/688wtq was 25psi in 4th gear
    869whp/688wtq was 29psi in 3rd gear.

    The tires were spinning on every run, and when we loaded the car up in 4th on 29psi it spun hard.

    Im happy.
    Very nice.

    Alec tweaked his rods at 23psi now I think it's pretty clear why lol.


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    Yea the BW's flow amazing, very quiet turbos compared to holset, but the proof is in the pudding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36 HateR View Post
    Yea the BW's flow amazing, very quiet turbos compared to holset, but the proof is in the pudding.
    I think the pistons can hang if you file the rings, especially with e85.

    I think oem rods are a liability above 550 and a timebomb above 600.

    Glad you tried the motor this way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    I think oem rods are a liability above 550 and a timebomb above 600.
    Except for the non Vanos m50 rods which will get you into the 9's apparenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chikinhed View Post
    Except for the non Vanos m50 rods which will get you into the 9's apparenty.
    The proof is in the Perry.

    Those are some solid numbers. What are you revving out to on this motor?
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    I don't want to talk for him but another forum member just made some really big power (as in more than me) with an m52 with stock pistons and non vanos rods as well.
    Last edited by someguy2800; 09-19-2017 at 01:02 PM.


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    E36 Hater's Phase 3, AKA what's a budget build?

    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    I don't want to talk for him but another forum member just made some really big power (as in more than me) with an m52 with stock pistons and non vanos rods as well.
    Mr cracked cylinder walls?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    Mr cracked cylinder walls?


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    there are a few people competing for that title but we are probably talking about the same person


    86 325es, 2.8L m50, S476sxe, ProEFI 128 ecu, e85, solid rear axle, TH400 trans, 28x10.5w slicks, zip ties, popsicle sticks, tape
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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    I think the pistons can hang if you file the rings, especially with e85.

    I think oem rods are a liability above 550 and a timebomb above 600.

    Glad you tried the motor this way.


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    I don't think this is true. I made 640wtq for a long time on stock rods.

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    It's way to application specific to say a component can handle X amount of power. Some people think I'm lucky my dumpster of a motor stays together but they are missing a lot of the little details that go into making a lot of power and keeping it alive. Then again some people do just seam to be lucky lol. S52/m52 rods are junk, that's all I know for certain.


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    Yea 912 rwhp through an auto is serious business, because we know what the screen would have showed if he were spinning the rollers through a manual.

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    Some pics from pocono raceway, went 161 entering at 63mph, had to start in 2nd bc of the long gearing.






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    nice pics! had a good time, they need to have more of these but invite only

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    That is some awesome power on a budget build. It appears you are making peak HP below 7000rpm. Is this your intent, or do you think the cams are to small or maybe the turbo falling off up top? 1000 hp at the crank is no joke and with m52 pistons,lol. Must be a wild ride!
    WOT

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    Why NV. Just for larger valve springs. And, how did you adapt the vanos? Provisions there, just switch valve covers and cams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY98M3 View Post
    nice pics! had a good time, they need to have more of these but invite only
    Yea man, i agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by hsvturbo View Post
    That is some awesome power on a budget build. It appears you are making peak HP below 7000rpm. Is this your intent, or do you think the cams are to small or maybe the turbo falling off up top? 1000 hp at the crank is no joke and with m52 pistons,lol. Must be a wild ride!
    Lol sure is wild, it peaks around 7100-7300, we are reving to 7600, im sure its the camshafts, s50's will only get us so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoostedBmwM3 View Post
    Why NV. Just for larger valve springs. And, how did you adapt the vanos? Provisions there, just switch valve covers and cams?
    Have to modify te head a bit to fit the vanos unit, but the dual valvesprings are what I wanted.







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    Are these 135mm rods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEI330Ci View Post
    Are these 135mm rods?
    Yes eagle 135mm

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