1992 E36 Coupe Electric Rear Vents -Retrofit

**johnf** · 06-04-2016, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by bmw4life92

Okai, still needs modding?...

Yes, they do. I will consult my notes as to the resistor values, or if necessary, read them off a modified module.

**Implus92** · 08-26-2016, 07:18 AM

Can i ask how this went in your bmw e36 1992? im thinking ZKM or ZKE module wise.
Im the Proud owner of a 1992 5/5 E36 coupe, do i need to get another ZK module or will mine thats preinstalled be fine?
I have read this thread a couple of times but im not quite sure i follow 100 %
And about the harness my set of rear vent the wires were cut off so i need to create the harness anyone who can help of have made one who is selling it?

**bmw4life92** · 09-03-2016, 12:57 PM

You dont need to add a ZKE4 module, Just get a blue K113 Hinged Window Relay and some rear vent switches, then follow the pin-out info posted on Page 3 by Genius, skip the black/red wire going to ZKE and you have a power vent wiring harness for your pre-1994 E36.
I got power from the open pin on my comfort relay.
There is a feature on 1994+ cars with ZKE4, holding lock button on fob or holding Key in full lock position in the door will close all open windows and sunroof. But this whole feature is not in the older ZVM module we have.

I have all the BMW pins & connectors to make a new wiring harness just for fun, but I have not gotten around to wiring it up during this summer. It is fairly easy once you can read the pin-outs.

**Fix.a.ZX** · 09-19-2018, 11:45 PM

Anyone have power vent system components for sale?

i am trying to make this system more accessible to everyone. i found the motors from the original manufacturer widely available still, very cheap. Pm for more details. i need the power vent window wiring and the comfort relay wiring to make schematics.

**MParallel** · 09-20-2018, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Fix.a.ZX

Anyone have power vent system components for sale?

i am trying to make this system more accessible to everyone. i found the motors from the original manufacturer widely available still, very cheap. Pm for more details. i need the power vent window wiring and the comfort relay wiring to make schematics.

You can check the BMW E36 ETM for the exact wiring schematics.

**Fix.a.ZX** · 09-20-2018, 05:41 PM

Does that tell you length and gage? Not last time I checked.

**MParallel** · 09-20-2018, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Fix.a.ZX

Does that tell you length and gage? Not last time I checked.

No not the length ha. Gauge, yes.

**Fix.a.ZX** · 09-20-2018, 06:03 PM

Besides I need the harnesses for my use anyways.

**Fireball1991** · 11-22-2018, 11:09 AM

hi there!

i'll like to upgrade my car with the rear windows to lift it electric, first of all, i've an E36 SEDAN from '97 so it's got an ZKE IV module. So.... now, my job is only get around follow the assemby of harnesses like the previous comments, or i have to modify somethings on my car?

can i follow these methods or i'm absolutly wrong?

thanks a lot!harness2.jpg detailed harness.jpg Ledningsnett2.jpg

**johnf** · 11-22-2018, 11:19 AM

I might start a new thread. This one is about swinging rear windows, which is quite different than lifting them. For example, to get a sedan to safely comfort close its rear windows, you might want to wire and code the ZKE as if it is raising and lower the windows in a cabrio.

**Fireball1991** · 11-22-2018, 11:24 AM

Okay, anyway, can you show me a schematic pic about this harness? With pinouts. Just to know where could I start it to wire up my harness. Thanks a lot!

**johnf** · 11-22-2018, 11:34 AM

You might search for something like "bmw etm gb".

Section 5133.0 of the BMW wiring diagrams covers the different power windows in the sedan, coupe and cabrio.

**Fireball1991** · 11-22-2018, 11:48 AM

Thanks, I see it, and the numbers of the lines next to connection corner are the pin numbers?

**johnf** · 11-23-2018, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Fireball1991

Thanks, I see it, and the numbers of the lines next to connection corner are the pin numbers?

That is right. You should see the same numbers on the plastic connector shells the contacts slide into. If you have a pair of older eyes, you may need a light and a little magnification to make them out. Sections 7000.0–8500.0 contain diagrams to help find the connectors and confirm the physical pin numbering. I cross check pin numbers in various ways to avoid surprises.

**Fireball1991** · 11-23-2018, 12:42 PM

Thanks a lot I found it but it's still foggy... so I can't figure out which cables where to come and where to goes... so I actually looking for a scheme like this pic, or a pin outs table like the another one pic. PLS somebody help me!Screenshot_20181123-055742.jpg E36_18_Button_OBC_HUN.png

**BLAKE AuST** · 08-31-2019, 08:00 AM

old thread i know. I have a 1994 m3 euro, i have everything except the "Hinged Window Relay" this part is NLA, is there another i can use? do i even need it?

**Fireball1991** · 08-31-2019, 10:16 AM

Its depending on what kind of car do you have because mine is sedan, so my car electronics little bit different from the other ones (coupe, compact etc.) so finally i wired it up, and i succes to bring it to life for me, but i had to replace my zke module, ind install the RMIV modul too. so here's my help:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7-...VFeTFCb3M/view

Power windows circuit for rear section is ELE-235, but it's come from ELE-234 on page 717 and 718.

so i made my own cable harness, and i put it into my car and BUMMMM its working now

so i'm happy now, i hope you will too

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But here's the other one advanced question.

How can i wire up the Check Control Modul?

anybody has any help for it? circuit, pin outs table etc.?

Thanks a lot guys!

**MParallel** · 09-01-2019, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Fireball1991

Its depending on what kind of car do you have because mine is sedan, so my car electronics little bit different from the other ones (coupe, compact etc.) so finally i wired it up, and i succes to bring it to life for me, but i had to replace my zke module, ind install the RMIV modul too. so here's my help:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7-...VFeTFCb3M/view

Power windows circuit for rear section is ELE-235, but it's come from ELE-234 on page 717 and 718.

so i made my own cable harness, and i put it into my car and BUMMMM its working now

so i'm happy now, i hope you will too

- - - Updated - - -

But here's the other one advanced question.

How can i wire up the Check Control Modul?

anybody has any help for it? circuit, pin outs table etc.?

Thanks a lot guys!

If your E36 as a ZKE, it can only be the ZKE 4. So you never need to replace it. Just recode.

**Fireball1991** · 09-01-2019, 08:51 AM

I had to replace it because my old one has 4 connector and the New one has 5. My old was ZKE 4 LOW, and the New one is ZKE 4 HIGH. i didnt code anything. I just installed them and here we go... Its workin.