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Thread: E21 Group 2 Build - Turbo S54, E46 running gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettkcherry View Post
    lol, yup! She's pretty amazing :-D
    better keep her! That's quite the gift...

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    Awesome work, sir. Sub'd for updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerwillrbnsn View Post
    Awesome work, sir. Sub'd for updates.
    Thanks! It's been a little too slow going for my timeline goals, but hopefully that will change soon. I have some open time coming up to dedicate to the project. Stay tuned

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    Well, it's been months of nothing and research and procrastinating and more nothing and more research. Today was the first time under the car in awhile but I feel like I've finally got the rearend placement 90% figured out. I am going to the need the help of a machinist for some pieces (if anyone knows one in the Seattle area please let me know) but otherwise I've got a plan that I can execute myself. Here's a few pictures:

    This is basically how it will sit in the car.
    8qBcdrr.jpg

    View from behind:
    H2FBMun.jpg

    AajYw1J.jpg

    View from the side showing the tops of the mounting locations on the subframe:
    0WizuQP.jpg

    Rear seatback/firewall removed. Access through this area will be needed for tube framing:
    GoJxAua.jpg

    EDIT:

    Why are my attachments small? I tried to unclick the "Retrieve remote file and reference locally" but then it showed the "broken link/file" icon. Left the box checked and now they are stupid small photos :-/
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    Did some firewall trimming. Motor should sit about 4 inches aft of the factory firewall.





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    Plugging away at some more bodywork. Filled the big holes in the floor and capped off the OEM gas tank filler thingy. I'll be using a fuel cell fillable from the trunk so that access point was unnecessary.







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    So, it's been awhile. Decided to go a slightly different direction with how the E46 suspension will be tied into chassis. Finally seeing some progress after it sagged for a long time...




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    Will the steering rack (oops, shaft) clear the intake manifold? Sweet project, ought to drive like a dream when you're done
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    Wow, you're not messing around. Keep it up and please update this regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somjuan View Post
    Will the steering rack clear the intake manifold? Sweet project, ought to drive like a dream when you're done
    It should!

    It's all stock E46 stuff under the hood, so it should fit well and play nicely with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EauRouge2002 View Post
    Wow, you're not messing around. Keep it up and please update this regularly.
    I will be doing my best for sure. This forum has been a big resource for me, I'm happy to give back as things progress on my build.

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    One more... Some preliminary mockups for tubing the rear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brettkcherry View Post
    One more... Some preliminary mockups for tubing the rear.


    I really like the layout of this so far. By cutting the floor and moving the cage hoop back mid quarter windows are you going to move the seating there and move the pedal box back? If so I really like where your thought process is on this

    update when make progress, looks great so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by autox320 View Post
    I really like the layout of this so far. By cutting the floor and moving the cage hoop back mid quarter windows are you going to move the seating there and move the pedal box back? If so I really like where your thought process is on this

    update when make progress, looks great so far
    Seeing how far back the engine got pushed I'd be inclined to say you're correct... otherwise his feet would be getting toasty by the oil sump haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by autox320 View Post
    I really like the layout of this so far. By cutting the floor and moving the cage hoop back mid quarter windows are you going to move the seating there and move the pedal box back? If so I really like where your thought process is on this

    update when make progress, looks great so far
    Yes, you got the idea! Hopefully trying to get the weight centered as far as possible.

    I'll keep updating as stuff happens for sure 👍🏽

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    With a booster delete and cutting more I contemplated this before our cage. Motor would sit behind the subframe but the seat needed to sit almost back seat and pedal box moved. the difference was about 8-12 more inches than what we've got so far on our project. I drew a line in the sand of cutting and that was the end of it

    Best project I've heard of BMW wise was a e36 where driver sat back seat with pedal box moved over a foot so he wasn't on the bell housing. Shoveled a LS V8. I think Vorshlag also had such a car at one time. Complete rocketship on track.

    It's stuff like this that drove us to move our motor back. Most hear of 2" or so, but I'll take my 5.75" and run with it

    Awesome project man will be sub'd for sure on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autox320 View Post
    With a booster delete and cutting more I contemplated this before our cage. Motor would sit behind the subframe but the seat needed to sit almost back seat and pedal box moved. the difference was about 8-12 more inches than what we've got so far on our project. I drew a line in the sand of cutting and that was the end of it

    Best project I've heard of BMW wise was a e36 where driver sat back seat with pedal box moved over a foot so he wasn't on the bell housing. Shoveled a LS V8. I think Vorshlag also had such a car at one time. Complete rocketship on track.

    It's stuff like this that drove us to move our motor back. Most hear of 2" or so, but I'll take my 5.75" and run with it

    Awesome project man will be sub'd for sure on this.
    Yeah, I toyed with that position too. It was just going to be too extreme for a semi-DD. Would have been incredible in the corners ��




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    Hellz yes and I would of had to make a reverse link for the transmission unless sitting far enough back. Right now there's maybe a 1" link for the shifter on ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autox320 View Post
    Hellz yes and I would of had to make a reverse link for the transmission unless sitting far enough back. Right now there's maybe a 1" link for the shifter on ours.
    Hehe, I hear ya. It was going to introduce all kinds of new issues to work around.

    Got a link to your car/build? I'd love to see it.

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    Sure man; and PM me if want to exchange email/ideas etc.

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...iginal-Gangsta
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    Tight fit on the passenger side motor mount.

    Hockey pucks are fun :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by autox320 View Post
    Sure man; and PM me if want to exchange email/ideas etc.

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...iginal-Gangsta
    Thank you, appreciate that. Same to you. Love the thread, I'll be reading through it in detail!

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    More cage tie in. Rear-end is assembled and in proper placement.




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    Wiiiiiide!

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    Lots of cutting needed here to make the 18s fit.



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