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Thread: Rajicase's First Turbo Build, Ballin' On A (Nonexistent) Budget

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    Dynojet! Thanks
    Here are a few pics. Got several graphs for later and a few vids
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajicase View Post
    463 whp and 411tq at 13.8psi I'm so giddy

    On a base tune and crappy crush bent exhaust.

    Got pics and vids to come!
    Very good results. Would like to see scanned dyno or better picture to show CORRECTION and to show when/where boost arrives and rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post

    Very good results. Would like to see scanned dyno or better picture to show CORRECTION and to show when/where boost arrives and rpm.
    It's SAE. I'm getting emailed dyno graphs tonight, which I will upload.

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    nice power for that turbo and boost level! I was going to predict you would be well over 400whp but didn't want to get you expectations up.


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    What turbo is this ? Sx256 ? Or something ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    What turbo is this ? Sx256 ? Or something ?
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    ^^^corrreccct

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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    nice power for that turbo and boost level! I was going to predict you would be well over 400whp but didn't want to get you expectations up.
    Weird that I only made 13.8psi on the dyno. On the street I make 16.. so for 13.8#, base tune, and tiny crush bent exhaust, 463whp makes my beyond excited

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    Vollosso has the nice dyno files maybe he would be kind enough to upload them when he has time

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajicase View Post
    Weird that I only made 13.8psi on the dyno. On the street I make 16.. so for 13.8#, base tune, and tiny crush bent exhaust, 463whp makes my beyond excited
    It seems your boost/turbo/WG setup is highly dependent/sensitive on actual engine load, which is very odd.

    Goes back to me thinking you need to go over a few things.

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    ^^Yeah I agree. I made a boost leak tester but am waiting on a coupler.

    When you say go over things, do you mean boost leak test? Or anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajicase View Post
    ^^Yeah I agree. I made a boost leak tester but am waiting on a coupler.

    When you say go over things, do you mean boost leak test? Or anything else?
    Everything... boost leak test, exhaust manifold/leaks, WG operation (with a pressure tester, etc)... anything you can think of really that's related to holding and regulating boost.

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    Or the dyno sensor was off.
    I've had it a few times where the dyno AFR and boost was not accurate to my logs or my gauges, which are very accurate. A little leak at the hose will show wrong readings. You very well could have been in the 16# range. That would seem more likely.
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    Raji's pulls were done unloaded.
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    Ah thats right, forgot about that. 0 load on my pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajicase View Post
    Ah thats right, forgot about that. 0 load on my pulls.
    That looks like a Dynojet to me... so that's simply impossible.

    Dynojet's are inertia dynos. The load is fixed.

    Even if it's not a dynojet and some other load bearing dyno there is no way it was not loaded since you wouldn't get an accurate reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    That looks like a Dynojet to me... so that's simply impossible.

    Dynojet's are inertia dynos. The load is fixed.

    Even if it's not a dynojet and some other load bearing dyno there is no way it was not loaded since you wouldn't get an accurate reading.

    Ill let Vollosso answer or explain, he knows way more about this than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    That looks like a Dynojet to me... so that's simply impossible. Dynojet's are inertia dynos. The load is fixed. Even if it's not a dynojet and some other load bearing dyno there is no way it was not loaded since you wouldn't get an accurate reading.
    the load was set to zero.
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    You can get an add on eddy current absorber to put extra load on the roller of a dynojet. I believe what they are saying is that the absorber was turned off so the load was only the drum inertia.


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    Nice numbers for sure! I knew you'd be over 400 by a good bit at 16lbs.
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    Thanks!!! Should be easy 500 with a tune revision and better exhaust and same boost level.

    1st dyno pull
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa9qHxX1Kk

    - - - Updated - - -

    And dyno pull #2 sorry for horribe vid :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    You can get an add on eddy current absorber to put extra load on the roller of a dynojet. I believe what they are saying is that the absorber was turned off so the load was only the drum inertia.
    Which is the way it should be when doing pulls for power. So again, none of that makes any difference at all.

    Dynojets are primarily inertia dynos. You can't remove the mass of the drum which is the primary source of load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    Which is the way it should be when doing pulls for power. So again, none of that makes any difference at all. Dynojets are primarily inertia dynos. You can't remove the mass of the drum which is the primary source of load.
    dude cool ypur shit. I dont know why you go off like this its ridiculous.

    Inertial dyno only applies to how it measures the power.

    I dont know what were talking about anymore... But a dyno like this without the brake applied creates less load on the engine than a highway and if his car likes to change boost based on load i dont see what your going off about...

    "Cant remove the mass of the mass of the drum"
    lol what are you even getting at??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    dude cool ypur shit. I dont know why you go off like this its ridiculous.
    WTF are you talking about? Are you drunk? Maybe high?

    Inertial dyno only applies to how it measures the power.

    I dont know what were talking about anymore... But a dyno like this without the brake applied creates less load on the engine than a highway and if his car likes to change boost based on load i dont see what your going off about...

    "Cant remove the mass of the mass of the drum"
    lol what are you even getting at??????

    If you don't know what I'm talking about here, you probably shouldn't be answering questions about the dyno... Just sayin'

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