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While I agree with the 700 marker, sure. But under 600, i wouldn't bat an eye. I'd run stock pistons all day at those levels. I think the smart move in this is to stay under 600, or at 600. While I have forged pistons, I went above and beyond the 600 marker.
There are boat loads of guys running stock pistons , under 600 and their fear is the rods. Tons. The real problem becomes greed. Wanting more then 600. At the 500 marker on a hard hitting turbo, like a 35r, your rods are at risk.
I totally agree on the 6xx and above tho. 300-600 I wouldn't bother if money is an issue. Pistons+rings+machine work+filing rings+lot more time. Rods can be changed in an hour with motor plucked and head off.
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Yeah 100% agreed. I would also file the oem piston rings. Some evidence showing oem piston rings can butt and break the lands.
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I personally think doing machine work and what not is the right way to do it. But certainly you can just get drop in pistons, ball hone the cylinder walls and you're off to the races without any machine work what so ever.Originally Posted by Butters Stoch
I just don't see the point in going anywhere near 600 with stock anything.
u owe my mule an apology
moneys, there are only so many of them
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Yeah, people have been making 500-600 on stock internals for many many years. There are loads of guys running around with trm/TT/Technica kits and diy kits with just a mls or cutring/spacer. The bulk of F/I e36's out there the owners don't want to be cracking the engines open. Maybe the handful of guys here myself included go for the glory and invest stupid money into 20year old pos. But we are the minority.
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
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It's also the only thing you could possibly sell on Panjo if you decide to quit
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So it keeps getting better.
The main cap on the bearing that got messed up is totally screwed up. It got distorted and now the bearing tang doesn't fit and the main stud won't screw back into the hole in the block.
So I tore down my spare 2.8 today and will be taking it and my pistons to the machine shop and have them bore out the 2.8 to 86.5.
Basically the only thing I'll get to re use is my s52 crank.
This keeps getting better and better...
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Life was simple with 500hp huh ?
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
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He didn't have 500 whp.....
'97 M3, Estoril blue, 2 dr, euro 6-spd, EFR 9180 divided T4 .92 IWG, RK tuning, CP 8.5:1 pistons, Eagle rods, Schrick cams, L19 11 mm ARP studs, O-ringed block, Supertech stainless/inconel valves, Supertech springs & Ti retainers, ported head, S54 oil pump/pan, 80 lb. injectors, OBD1 intake manifold, Steedspeed twin scroll T4, 3.5" SS exhaust, eBoost2 EBC, HFS-4 W/M injection, AEM Failsafe, Zeitronix data logger, Racelogic TC, OpenOBC w. ethanol %, Ireland Eng. engine mounts, UUC black tranny mounts w. enforcers, UUC twin disc feramic, ARC-8's, MCS 2-ways, Z3 rack, Rallyroad strut bar, X brace, Eibach sway bars, Ground Control LCAB bushings, Bimmerworld RTAB's, Powerflex subframe bushings, 210 4-clutch LSD, Stoptech BBK, titainium shims, steel braided lines, brake cooling ducts.
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465 with the old 256. No clue what i was making with the 366sxe at 21 psi and e85.
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S366 and 21psi on e85 should be well over 620-650whp on a 3.2.
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you were making licorice out of your rods.
too soon?
remember i read this thread next time you want me to strap snails on my hog. lol.
always trying to make it lighter and faster
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I'll remember that in a few months when I'm making 700 and continue to poke you until you come to the dark side.
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A few months..... Are you making a carter out of it?
'97 M3, Estoril blue, 2 dr, euro 6-spd, EFR 9180 divided T4 .92 IWG, RK tuning, CP 8.5:1 pistons, Eagle rods, Schrick cams, L19 11 mm ARP studs, O-ringed block, Supertech stainless/inconel valves, Supertech springs & Ti retainers, ported head, S54 oil pump/pan, 80 lb. injectors, OBD1 intake manifold, Steedspeed twin scroll T4, 3.5" SS exhaust, eBoost2 EBC, HFS-4 W/M injection, AEM Failsafe, Zeitronix data logger, Racelogic TC, OpenOBC w. ethanol %, Ireland Eng. engine mounts, UUC black tranny mounts w. enforcers, UUC twin disc feramic, ARC-8's, MCS 2-ways, Z3 rack, Rallyroad strut bar, X brace, Eibach sway bars, Ground Control LCAB bushings, Bimmerworld RTAB's, Powerflex subframe bushings, 210 4-clutch LSD, Stoptech BBK, titainium shims, steel braided lines, brake cooling ducts.
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You know how much money I have right now?
A few months..... Are you making a carter out of it?
Barely enough to put gas in my jeep lol.
If I had money I'd already be reinstalling a new engine...
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I was just buggin'. You will often find you will have no money and all the time or all the money and no time. I have all the parts I need and no time due to too much work and family needs..... same same really...... with the end result of no boost
'97 M3, Estoril blue, 2 dr, euro 6-spd, EFR 9180 divided T4 .92 IWG, RK tuning, CP 8.5:1 pistons, Eagle rods, Schrick cams, L19 11 mm ARP studs, O-ringed block, Supertech stainless/inconel valves, Supertech springs & Ti retainers, ported head, S54 oil pump/pan, 80 lb. injectors, OBD1 intake manifold, Steedspeed twin scroll T4, 3.5" SS exhaust, eBoost2 EBC, HFS-4 W/M injection, AEM Failsafe, Zeitronix data logger, Racelogic TC, OpenOBC w. ethanol %, Ireland Eng. engine mounts, UUC black tranny mounts w. enforcers, UUC twin disc feramic, ARC-8's, MCS 2-ways, Z3 rack, Rallyroad strut bar, X brace, Eibach sway bars, Ground Control LCAB bushings, Bimmerworld RTAB's, Powerflex subframe bushings, 210 4-clutch LSD, Stoptech BBK, titainium shims, steel braided lines, brake cooling ducts.
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I know you were just Givin me shit.I was just buggin'. You will often find you will have no money and all the time or all the money and no time. I have all the parts I need and no time due to too much work and family needs..... same same really...... with the end result of no boost
I need to get through school and hopefully with my lack of family and responsibilities when I graduate in December I can have a shiny parts build like all of you high rollers.
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Damn am I the only one In the boat with no money and no time? At least I have boost for now.
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no money
no time
no boost
but i have freedom under the hood of my e36...
always trying to make it lighter and faster
^^former build: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-neglected-M3/
current build: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...car-build.html
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I repainted the strut towers today. It looks so nice I'm gonna repaint the rest of the bay while the engine is out.
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It's a life balance that I haven't figure out.I was just buggin'. You will often find you will have no money and all the time or all the money and no time. I have all the parts I need and no time due to too much work and family needs..... same same really...... with the end result of no boost
I've had money and time...and still couldn't get it right.
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I have several things for sale if anyone wants or could share with someone interested it'd speed up my build exponentially!
TRM tune with two revisions and 60# injectors for OBD1 s52 : $400
ARP rod bolts $70
X brace for e36 $100
Super tech dual valve springs with steel retainers 84#: $450
S52 crank: $250
M52 crank: $50
OBD2 valve cover: $40
OBD2 ignition coils : $75
Like new OE OBD2 knock sensors : $20
S52 cam trays with lifters: $100
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Pm me about the tune and injectors!
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Very fancy list
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