Thread: "What did you do to your E39 today V2.0."

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    Changed out the DOA meyle fan clutch for a BEHR fan clutch and...
    ...it behaved exactly the same, in that seized way where its blowing way too much air even when cold



    what's going on with these clutches?


    sounds exactly like this other video

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    Quote Originally Posted by joekitch View Post
    Changed out the DOA meyle fan clutch for a BEHR fan clutch and...
    ...it behaved exactly the same, in that seized way where its blowing way too much air even when cold



    what's going on with these clutches?


    sounds exactly like this other video

    Hold the RPMs at 3k for a few seconds and it should quiet down. It sometimes takes a second.
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    hmm, i'll give that a shot, although i let it run up to temp from a cold start, then gave it some decent revs (not very high, i'm terrified of the fan exploding from excessive rotational force)
    Looking for an e39 Touring black carpet set, including the rear cargo cubbies and side sections!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joekitch View Post
    hmm, i'll give that a shot, although i let it run up to temp from a cold start, then gave it some decent revs (not very high, i'm terrified of the fan exploding from excessive rotational force)
    Are the fan blades new? If they are, you should be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joekitch View Post
    by the way, a cheat code for that job is to unbolt the actual ball joints the struts sit on, you can get to them under the rear headliner, not difficult or time consuming to reach, although be careful not to crack your D pillar plastic
    No that is NOT THE 'CHEAT CODE', that is a TERRIBLE idea. We've been fighting the one crappy-but-long-'always appears on google search' write up that tells people to do that for years. Its massively and utterly stupid. Please do not keep suggesting that to people. Completely stupid.

    Its just like the bad sunroof thread where the guy didn't figure out that the wind deflector pops out with no tools in 5 seconds so he tells people to try to pull pin retainers out oh gee except those aren't made to come out like that so they break so then make a replacement with rubber tubing.... No, you just take the things off in 5 seconds with no tools, fool. But unfortunately his dumbass thread keeps showing up on google.

    Uh. No. NEVER pull the headliner down and mess with the ball joints bolted through the roof. Utterly idiotic.

    When you do it the right way, and are ready with some sort of (easily found lying around for lots of guys...) make-shift tools, the ends of the struts pop right off and back on. There are now a good handful of threads on this and several ways to do it, including using various kinds of tubing (copper or pvc), or just long prybars and some other tricks. I bet Snotty can do 'em blind-drunk in the dark in half an hour. Unbolting those ball-joints is retarded.
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    Lol! Take the headliner out just to change out the tailgate struts???? That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard of. So now you risk breaking all kinds of expensive interior bits, just to do something easily done the right way. No wonder his poor e39 is always falling apart. Feel bad for the next owner.... most likely, the car ends up in the yards, one more e39 down.
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    to be completely honest, I've gotten pretty tired of you two, i try my best not to bite back but i do have SOME limits. I don't believe it's possible to selectively block people on here, which is unfortunate. I feel kind of bad for newer users who have to put up with the concentrated essence of condescending that often drips off your posts

    anyway, yes revving the engine up did de-clutch the fan clutch, so that's all good, but man it's loud below 3k when going from a stop.

    Also: today i helped my family by towing about 1,500 pounds of concrete aggregate, the tow system worked great, but of course braking performance was reduced to about 60% and acceleration to about 70% of normal. the GVWR of the trailer was about 2,100, which is more than what the enclosed 5x8 trailer will weigh fully loaded
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    Looking for an e39 Touring black carpet set, including the rear cargo cubbies and side sections!
    ALSO looking for 540i 6speed manual transmission sets (2001+ pedals with switches, driveshaft, gearbox), for the 6speed swap! Probably not for a while....

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    Quote Originally Posted by joekitch View Post
    to be completely honest, I've gotten pretty tired of you two, i try my best not to bite back but i do have SOME limits. I don't believe it's possible to selectively block people on here,
    Good news! It is!

    Click on the persons profile and pick "Add To Ignore List"

    Honestly brother I've tried to help you a ton. In threads, by email. You really have nothing to complain about.

    When you say stuff that's flat out wrong, and recommend it to other people, well, you're going to get called out, I'm sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dking078 View Post
    They say the longer you look at these pictures, the more interesting it gets

    Custom Retrofitted TPMS *almost* to match my heated seat retrofit.
    I’m dying to do this retrofit. Any guides/writeups/tips? What parts are required?
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    Quote Originally Posted by computiNATEor View Post
    I’m dying to do this retrofit. Any guides/writeups/tips? What parts are required?
    The kicker is the wiring. Much easier if you have nav stock (http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/179456). I didn't so finding the ABS speed wires is hell .

    Only got 1 confirmed from under dash wire splices. I have to get the other 3 from the ABS / DME.

    It takes serious wire know-how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dking078 View Post
    I have the parts (FS).

    The kicker is the wiring. Much easier if you have nav stock (http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/179456). I didn't so finding the ABS speed wires is hell .

    Only got 1 confirmed from under dash wire splices. I have to get the other 3 from the ABS / DME.

    It takes serious wire know-how.
    I have a nav equipped car
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargrinder View Post
    Good news! It is!
    Click on the persons profile and pick "Add To Ignore List"
    Honestly brother I've tried to help you a ton. In threads, by email. You really have nothing to complain about.
    When you say stuff that's flat out wrong, and recommend it to other people, well, you're going to get called out, I'm sorry.
    the help is nice but i'll find other help without the 'tude, to be honest.
    Looking for an e39 Touring black carpet set, including the rear cargo cubbies and side sections!
    ALSO looking for 540i 6speed manual transmission sets (2001+ pedals with switches, driveshaft, gearbox), for the 6speed swap! Probably not for a while....

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    man, an actually working mechanical fan is quite the noisy piece on a hot day with the A/C on, can't really hear the engine below 3k anymore due to the air noise but past 3k it shuts up
    of course this means the melye fan clutch i thought was DOA was probably not DOA, but now a behr unit lives in there so....fcp RMA here i go
    Looking for an e39 Touring black carpet set, including the rear cargo cubbies and side sections!
    ALSO looking for 540i 6speed manual transmission sets (2001+ pedals with switches, driveshaft, gearbox), for the 6speed swap! Probably not for a while....

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    Quote Originally Posted by joekitch View Post
    man, an actually working mechanical fan is quite the noisy piece on a hot day with the A/C on, can't really hear the engine below 3k anymore due to the air noise but past 3k it shuts up
    of course this means the melye fan clutch i thought was DOA was probably not DOA, but now a behr unit lives in there so....fcp RMA here i go
    I found that on my automatic 530, the extra heat from the transmission heat exchanger made the clutch much much louder. On my 530i5, the clutch fan is much quieter (after the old one exploded).
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    called module masters to find out where my abs module is..... (still investigating......)
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    Finally got around to retiming my M62TU.

    She is running like a top. Took her out last night for about 30 min., she pulls smooth and consistent thru out the whole rpm range!! New Vanos seals! Glad to have finally wrapped this bad boy up.

    https://youtu.be/lbc_iJC9bmU

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    Congrats on a successful completion! It's funny how we don't realize how much power we are missing out on until the Vanos is refreshened
    Quote Originally Posted by Mannyf540 View Post
    Finally got around to retiming my M62TU.

    She is running like a top. Took her out last night for about 30 min., she pulls smooth and consistent thru out the whole rpm range!! New Vanos seals! Glad to have finally wrapped this bad boy up.

    https://youtu.be/lbc_iJC9bmU
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    Quote Originally Posted by setho View Post
    Congrats on a successful completion! It's funny how we don't realize how much power we are missing out on until the Vanos is refreshened

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    Thanks Setho!! We need a pic of that beautiful engine bay. I love shiny colorful parts in our engines, makes everything look purdy.

    Quote Originally Posted by philly98540 View Post
    Setho looking racecar!

    Congrats Manny! Right of passage complete. Now your all in.

    Thanks Philly!! I saved my 540 from an untimely death!! Loooking forward to another 100kkk from this car. I absolutely enjoy this car.

    I’d like to thank Jim for his patience with me, and Danny as well, excellent Vanos service Dan!

    And as well as all the info out there I used for this project, Besian Systems, GAS, and this forum, Topaz had a nice write up also.

    Cheers!

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    Manny, what did you find wrong when you retired it?
    I didn't see a clutch fan, better get it on, it's going to be a HOT summer.
    Nice 335 vs Vette video, was that your 335?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
    Manny, what did you find wrong when you retired it?
    I didn't see a clutch fan, better get it on, it's going to be a HOT summer.
    Nice 335 vs Vette video, was that your 335?
    Yeah, when I opened it up it was not in timing....
    So I’m assuming I did not keep proper tension on the lower tensioner when I installed bank 1 timing cover ( what a jackass of me, I noticed but rolled the dice)...... or the timing got disturbed upon initial timing ( you know how “ it’s suggested to turn the motor cw twice, then recheck timing) well the first time I did not do that also, since GAS suggests it strongly, but being a lazy heathan that I am did not do that also initially( I paid for my evil ways..), second time around I did It and found that the timing had been disturbed so I had to retime it again, good thing I followed the suggestion this second time around of turning the engine twice and I even checked that the Vanos were also fully retarded second time around.


    And yeah that’s my 335. I love that beast!

    - - - Updated - - -

    As for the fan clutch, I wanted to enjoy that V8 sound, rather than the school bus sound.

    I’ll be doing an electric fan upgrade as well.

    And take a look at the brakes, as they were a bit shimmy applying the brakes at high speeds yesterday ( I just went thru the whole suspension and brake system recently and replaced every component)

    The fun never ends.
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