550 wtq at 4000 rpm is far from weak
but the pauer doesn't CLIMB like a GT4094r should to 700whp
Likely a 60# injector on 93 pump.
Wow...lot of good responses.
Litemup thanks for the graphs, and I agree 400 wtq at 3200 and climbing doesn't seem too lazy to me....granted the 6766 is a bit larger, but I can't imagine it delays it more than 5xx or so more rpm.
I'd like to see some more comparable graphs where all are on pump gas or all on 110 etc...
Last edited by JuCo; 10-17-2015 at 03:46 PM.
Mod list - M50 manifold; TechniqueTuning Stg2, Apex Arc-8, ZKW euro, clear corners Mike R diffbrace, Koni Yell with HR race
X-brace UCC tranny mounts -BLK/with enforcers, powerflex rtabs,lcabs, AAfanclutch, mishimoto rad, UCC Ultra-cerametallic Clutch.
You will go through days of joy and days of sadness as the pursuit for power leads to madness...
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335d
520whp
635wtq
120.51mph trap speed
The S362, like on Avee's car, would be a good step up from the 60-1. It's pretty fast at 15 psi, 20-23 psi would be fun.
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'97 M3, Estoril blue, 2 dr, euro 6-spd, EFR 9180 divided T4 .92 IWG, RK tuning, CP 8.5:1 pistons, Eagle rods, Schrick cams, L19 11 mm ARP studs, O-ringed block, Supertech stainless/inconel valves, Supertech springs & Ti retainers, ported head, S54 oil pump/pan, 80 lb. injectors, OBD1 intake manifold, Steedspeed twin scroll T4, 3.5" SS exhaust, eBoost2 EBC, HFS-4 W/M injection, AEM Failsafe, Zeitronix data logger, Racelogic TC, OpenOBC w. ethanol %, Ireland Eng. engine mounts, UUC black tranny mounts w. enforcers, UUC twin disc feramic, ARC-8's, MCS 2-ways, Z3 rack, Rallyroad strut bar, X brace, Eibach sway bars, Ground Control LCAB bushings, Bimmerworld RTAB's, Powerflex subframe bushings, 210 4-clutch LSD, Stoptech BBK, titainium shims, steel braided lines, brake cooling ducts.
Mod list - M50 manifold; TechniqueTuning Stg2, Apex Arc-8, ZKW euro, clear corners Mike R diffbrace, Koni Yell with HR race
X-brace UCC tranny mounts -BLK/with enforcers, powerflex rtabs,lcabs, AAfanclutch, mishimoto rad, UCC Ultra-cerametallic Clutch.
You will go through days of joy and days of sadness as the pursuit for power leads to madness...
OP, what thickness is your MLS? or what are you planning to run on your new setup?
i've found that turbo response is greatly affected by an engine's static CR.
i was able to spool a gt4088r 500 rpm faster than my friend could spool a 6266 on a 3.2L with the same manifold. the primary difference with regard to engine was that i ran 8.5:1 CR and he was 8.0:1 CR.
always trying to make it lighter and faster
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current build: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...car-build.html
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perfeCT info
and despite all the shiny, glorified, data packed, unBMWtested new turbos
the Goodfather's Drug of Choice, the ORIGINAL twinscroll fave, continues to glow...in price and performance.
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
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Were the 100 octane cars also using meth? Would the 93+meth owner risk going as high boost as the 100 or 100+meth owner? Were any tunes 60 lb ones that may have been near their limit? Were any of the cars running meth tuned for it?
Last edited by pbonsalb; 10-18-2015 at 12:05 PM.
RUN 011 is shown below in the ORIGINAL dyno form from a year ago as a GT35x run.
Something is awry here.
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...nagofast-event
Currently the car has a new .140 MLS gasket that has about 1000 miles on it. If that fails then I'm sure I'd put a cutring in the car without hesitation.
I'm lost Milkt? what is the Perfect info? Comp Ratio or manifold choice?
I know most people on the forum are trying to get every drop of performance out of their setup, i'm taking a very simple approach and just want to use Pump gas as this point. So all these HYPE'd up numbers on Meth, or 110 mixture or E85 don't help me see the base I'm looking for. Granted everyone's setup does vary so its an apple to oranges compro anyway.
Last edited by JuCo; 10-18-2015 at 01:27 PM.
Mod list - M50 manifold; TechniqueTuning Stg2, Apex Arc-8, ZKW euro, clear corners Mike R diffbrace, Koni Yell with HR race
X-brace UCC tranny mounts -BLK/with enforcers, powerflex rtabs,lcabs, AAfanclutch, mishimoto rad, UCC Ultra-cerametallic Clutch.
You will go through days of joy and days of sadness as the pursuit for power leads to madness...
Mod list - M50 manifold; TechniqueTuning Stg2, Apex Arc-8, ZKW euro, clear corners Mike R diffbrace, Koni Yell with HR race
X-brace UCC tranny mounts -BLK/with enforcers, powerflex rtabs,lcabs, AAfanclutch, mishimoto rad, UCC Ultra-cerametallic Clutch.
You will go through days of joy and days of sadness as the pursuit for power leads to madness...
4094r pump gas, is 600whp all day at 18-19psi, with shricks you can make 670-680whp on pump, get the E85 and have a stock block beast like me
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
I made decently over 600 run after run after run using a barely smaller 6466 on 93 pump; as did the current owner of my motor... Why wouldn't a 4094 be able to do the same on an efficient setup?
~Ken~ '99 M coupe THE "original" TT Stage 3 - HTA3586R; 701 whp 672 wtq @ 26.5 psi ; NeverSell - CoupeCartel
Ok guys mine is the 4094R car that's running 93 Octane and 50/50 water meth.
The other 2 CES Cars are on straight 100 octane No Meth.
I made 692 whp and 626 wtq on 20psi
Purple car (frankinstien motor) on 100 made I think around 660's at 23-24 psi.
Blk car made 670's on around 23 psi on straight 100
I might be a bit off on the others 2 cars
Purple car and Blk car both had cams one had Schrick and one VAC I cannot remember which car had what.
I have Elgin regrounds
1998 Turbo M3 Nick G tuned setting 5 934Whp 849Wtq @27.88 Psi. ignite E90 setting 6=
6466 will be as well. I guess what I'm saying is, once you get in the 550+ range with these motors, from what I understand they will show signs of knock without water/meth. I very well could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure at those power levels you will want a knock suppressant.
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
1998 Turbo M3 Nick G tuned setting 5 934Whp 849Wtq @27.88 Psi. ignite E90 setting 6=
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