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    ngk 4554. gapped from .021 to .026 depending on the health of you coils and boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry195 View Post
    ngk 4554. gapped from .021 to .026 depending on the health of you coils and boost.
    Perfect that is what I needed to know. The time for swapping in the engine is getting close!! Just need to time it, mock up the intercooler/charge piping, get some bungs welded in my temporary DP, tap some vacuum fittings in the manifold and we are ready for low boost.
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    Lil update

    getting ready for the swap, which shall begin a week from today




    My buddy is going to do a cut and some bead rolling on my piping, and we should be good to go there. I have mocked it up and made some brackets for the intercooler.



    Oil distribution



    Gapped and torqued



    What do you guys think of this return, too much of a low spot? Or am I just paranoid?


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    Too much low me thinks. The angle of the fitting probably wont work
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    What are other common locations for the oil return?

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    Use a small extension off the pan at a better angle. You could also return to the timing cover
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    It will be fine like that. Top mounts don't usually have any issues with draining as long as -10 fittings are used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit38 View Post
    It will be fine like that. Top mounts don't usually have any issues with draining as long as -10 fittings are used.
    We're gonna find out here very soon. Im just going to point the fitting up a bit more and we'll see how she flows. I have a feeling your'e right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manneurex View Post
    We're gonna find out here very soon. Im just going to point the fitting up a bit more and we'll see how she flows. I have a feeling your'e right.
    luke gronski ran a return and had issues because fitting angle. Fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    luke gronski ran a return and had issues because fitting angle. Fyi.
    Thanks for the heads up thats why i asked. Was he running -10?

    *edit*

    Nvm I just realized what build you are referring to. The one that inspired me to do what I'm doing. That build changed my life lol. What ever happened to the guts of that car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manneurex View Post
    Thanks for the heads up thats why i asked. Was he running -10? *edit* Nvm I just realized what build you are referring to. The one that inspired me to do what I'm doing. That build changed my life lol. What ever happened to the guts of that car?
    Garage fire and then parted out...
    Last i heard maxpsi had his turbo manifold and downpipe for sale i believe it was spoken for but thats all iv heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vollosso View Post
    Garage fire and then parted out... Last i heard maxpsi had his turbo manifold and downpipe for sale i believe it was spoken for but thats all iv heard.
    That car was the stuff of legend. The perfect street e36.

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    Motors in, although I have a slight problem.. The hood is no where near being able to close. I knew there was a bit of a risk of this happening, although i have seen a gtx3582 with this manifold which i figured was larger than my turbo? But no hole in the hood.

    Setup:

    Akg mounts 75d

    Turbonetics t3 t4 6057 .7 ar

    RallyRoad feed line into a -4an to 1/8" npt adapter and finally to a 1/8"npt feed line flange (This sticks 1.3cm above the turbo housings). The hood is over an inch away from where its supposed to be.

    So what do you guys think, could i shorten the oil feed somehow and maybe trim the engine and trans mounts an be good? Any ideas?

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    You can run a banjo bolt oil feed into the turbo. Low profile -- like 1/2 inch total height.

    I am currently running Vorshlag red poly engine mounts cut down about 1/4 inch.

    Seems like even that 3/4 inch total would not get you where you need to be.

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    I'm running the same manifold as you, its my compressor housing that makes contact with my hood. I only had to file a couple mm's off the compressor housing to make it work. Its a Garrett t3/t4e 60 trim .63 ar

    What size downpipe were you able to fit? I relocated the wastegate to the other side of the manifold (think obx) and can fit a 3" dp w/o touching the vc gasket or strut tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocyrus411 View Post
    I'm running the same manifold as you, its my compressor housing that makes contact with my hood. I only had to file a couple mm's off the compressor housing to make it work. Its a Garrett t3/t4e 60 trim .63 ar What size downpipe were you able to fit? I relocated the wastegate to the other side of the manifold (think obx) and can fit a 3" dp w/o touching the vc gasket or strut tower.
    Dp is the cx one for now. I thought i saw a picture of yours with the 3" and the wastegate in normal spot no? So I think I'm cutting a hole in the hood. So much for the "sleeper look" lol. Im gonna see how afrs look a bit later today and possibly get a revision from trm and then hit the dyno. Current wastegate spring pressure is 16.5lbs.

    Pictures coming.

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    i ran that wastegate setup for the first year but have since changed it. i'm also on M3 motor mounts. i'd do whatever you can before you cut a hole in your hood.

    i'm gonna be hitting a dyno soon as well, trying to arrange a remote tuning session w jordan. maybe i'll turn the boost up to 16.5 on the dyno. it would be interesting to see how numbers compare our builds are pretty similar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocyrus411 View Post
    i ran that wastegate setup for the first year but have since changed it. i'm also on M3 motor mounts. i'd do whatever you can before you cut a hole in your hood. i'm gonna be hitting a dyno soon as well, trying to arrange a remote tuning session w jordan. maybe i'll turn the boost up to 16.5 on the dyno. it would be interesting to see how numbers compare our builds are pretty similar!
    look he lives! post those numbers. Been waiting forever for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry195 View Post
    look he lives! post those numbers. Been waiting forever for this.
    yeeup im still alive and married to my e36. hopefully i'll get the numbers within the next couple of weeks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit38 View Post
    It will be fine like that. Top mounts don't usually have any issues with draining as long as -10 fittings are used.
    +1

    I have a drain plug drain
    and ZERO issues.

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    I think that the drain plug set up works fine when the ID of the fittings are big enough and oil isn't too thick at start up. The head pressure has to overcome the viscosity and flow restriction of the components used..

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    Theory or not...it works for many.

    Talk is talk.
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    Theory or not...it works for many.

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    I just recall MANY posts from folks
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    stating that it doesn't work.

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    I use a low bottom with a drain fitting and originally it had a tiny entry and it worked. I use 1" id line. It works better now that i drilled it out to 3/8"
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