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    Hi there everyone!
    My name is Ben and I'm new here. I just got a M3 Convertible with 91K and all major maintenance paper work with it. What should i be getting prepared for the 100K? thx!

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    Is this your first BMW? Normally most folks go thru a couple of BMW's before they end up with an M3. I would look to make sure that the cooling system has been overhauled by now, and the valves adjusted, along with all the fluid were changed at 60k like it calls in the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    Is this your first BMW? Normally most folks go thru a couple of BMW's before they end up with an M3. I would look to make sure that the cooling system has been overhauled by now, and the valves adjusted, along with all the fluid were changed at 60k like it calls in the book.
    Thanks for your reply!
    Yes it is my first BMW. I used to drive VW and TT.

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    A bit if a jump, I would say about 150hp. Yup VW are nice to drive, just a bit of a difference in the focus of the engineers who built these cars. I would also pay special attention to the rag top, if you don't take care of them they can be expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    A bit if a jump, I would say about 150hp. Yup VW are nice to drive, just a bit of a difference in the focus of the engineers who built these cars. I would also pay special attention to the rag top, if you don't take care of them they can be expensive.

    Yes it is a bit of a jump on horsepower. I most use to driving front wheel or all wheel drive, so having just the rear pulling is .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benocehcap View Post

    Yes it is a bit of a jump on horsepower. I most use to driving front wheel or all wheel drive, so having just the rear pulling is .
    Show some pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stancem3 View Post
    Show some pics

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    I am surprised and slightly sadden that you have a U.S. version. But no matter, still a nice looking M3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    I am surprised and slightly sadden that you have a U.S. version. But no matter, still a nice looking M3.

    Thank you!
    I was thinking, and saw some threads on it. But not sure if i got the info that i need it. I want to change the single "BMW Business CD" that came with the car to the OEM Nav, so it looks clean and stock and more
    LINK:http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-M3-C...87973040&rt=nc

    will the OEM wires that are on the car right now work with this unit?
    Thank you!

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    Yes that can fit, but you will need to relocate the HVAC down to where the sunglass box is. There are a couple of thread over on the E-46 side talking about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    Yes that can fit, but you will need to relocate the HVAC down to where the sunglass box is. There are a couple of thread over on the E-46 side talking about this.
    Yes! I saw the threads and Youtube videos on how too. I wasn't clear if it was just a plug/play kind of thing.
    This week had my heater stopping from working. Ran a search to find out what was the problem and found out it was the "FSU". Call the guy that sold me the car, he said he had changed the "FSU" six months ago. So, i took the glove box down and saw that he had changed indeed. I touched the "FSU" and the vents started to work again.
    Hope it stays on
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    If the FSU only lasted 6 months then he got some crap from China. Buy one from a dealership, yes it will cost more, but it won't crap out on you in 6 months. IIRC HELLA is the OEM provider for the FSU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    If the FSU only lasted 6 months then he got some crap from China. Buy one from a dealership, yes it will cost more, but it won't crap out on you in 6 months. IIRC HELLA is the OEM provider for the FSU.
    yeah!
    that was exactly what i thought. I went to the dealership for a new "FSU" and they had it in stock. 156USD's I guess its a very common problem at BMW. Right now its working, so i will let it be. But I'm happy that i know its that part that is defected, not something more serious.

    Also, i asked the parts counter guy how much for the oil/filter kit. He quote me 146USD's But i think i can find it on the web a little cheaper.

    http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-M3-...ine/ES2578578/

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    That is for an E-90, different filter.

    Do you have an APO/FPO address? I know a place that you can get it for way cheaper and it's a dealership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    That is for an E-90, different filter.

    Do you have an APO/FPO address? I know a place that you can get it for way cheaper and it's a dealership.
    No i don't. I live on the USA/ east coast.
    Do you have a link?

    I found this:
    http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462
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    Humm I would update your location, as it has you on the Islands, but yes that is the kit.

    FSR:
    http://thebmwminipartstore.com/parts...&siteid=218365
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    I went to the dealership for a new "FSU" and they had it in stock. 156USD's

    Also, i asked the parts counter guy how much for the oil/filter kit. He quote me 146USD's
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    Humm I would update your location, as it has you on the Islands, but yes that is the kit.

    FSR:
    http://thebmwminipartstore.com/parts...&siteid=218365

    Thank you so much for the link! That is a awesome site to buy OEM parts. But its so hard to navigate
    But the M3 isn't suppose to take Castrol 10W60 only?
    http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-...ice/ES2643164/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DROPTOP325 View Post
    Welcome to BMW ownership!
    Thank you friend!
    Im use to the high prices at the dealership. So, it wasn't a surprise to me. I use to own a TT :
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    Yes you can put other 10W-60 in the motor, but I don't recommend it. I have seen plp use red-line and burn out bearing by 100k, so if you want to use other oils, that is up to you.

    Yeah that website can be a bit of a PITA, but if you know how to find your own p/n here: www.realoem.com/bmw
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    oh ya man congrats on getting into the ///M world. Only downside is the prices for maintainence and parts lol. after 100k just be sure to check your engine status and oil changes. have fun man

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm3fanatic View Post
    oh ya man congrats on getting into the ///M world. Only downside is the prices for maintainence and parts lol. after 100k just be sure to check your engine status and oil changes. have fun man
    Thank you friend!
    I'm very excited to finally own a ///M. Im gonna call the dealership to ask how much for an engine/differential oil change. Wanna compare the prices before i do it on my own. If you add the oil/filter/drain plug, it will come pretty hefty. Lets see what the BMW dealership quotes me for

    I like this site:
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    Just don't understand why they charge more for what it looks to be the same oil just one has the BMW on it :

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    Mark-up, that is all. Anytime I want to purchase something, I always cruise the web as you can see very different prices. I was able to get my water pump (OEM BMW) from them as they were the least expensive. Other parts I can get from a dealership for a couple dollars more for OEM stuff vers. non-oem. Just have to shop around to find the best prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dworthy View Post
    Mark-up, that is all. Anytime I want to purchase something, I always cruise the web as you can see very different prices. I was able to get my water pump (OEM BMW) from them as they were the least expensive. Other parts I can get from a dealership for a couple dollars more for OEM stuff vers. non-oem. Just have to shop around to find the best prices.

    Your absolutely correct on the mark-up. Probably they have to pay royalty to BMW for having their name there...Not sure!

    I do the same. Shop around is a must, but you need to know how to do the work yourself or have a trustfully mechanic shop to install it for you.
    I called the dealership today to know how much they charge for an oil change on the ///M. 185USD's, which isn't bad. Judging for the price of the oil kit.

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    Just wait until it is time for you to have the valves adjusted, looking at around 450 bucks! For 190 bucks you can get the tools, ramps, and jacks need for the oil change. If you have two left thumbs, Bentley shop manual is pretty detailed on how to do things on your car, if you have the space to work at the house that is.
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