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Thread: NBT/CIC/CCC retrofit in E39/E38/E53

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    Holy shit!!......... Thanks Blacknight!

    @theshafro....Wow this is good .... in my order....don't want USB please!

    Awesome work dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jopecasa View Post
    Holy shit!!......... Thanks Blacknight!

    @theshafro....Wow this is good .... in my order....don't want USB please!

    Awesome work dude!
    There is no where else to mount the USBs. If I'm going to machine these I'll have to stick to one configuration. I'll need a vote from E53 potential buyers; I really need to get on xoutpost or wherever those guys hang out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    There is no where else to mount the USBs. If I'm going to machine these I'll have to stick to one configuration. I'll need a vote from E53 potential buyers; I really need to get on xoutpost or wherever those guys hang out.
    Invited you to the e53 xoutpost Facebook group. Way more active than the xoutpost forums.

    I personally would want to put the USB ports in the storage bin rather than on the top of the console.

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    Yeah... I already mounted my USB panel somewhere else.
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    Damn @theshafro, your work is nothing short of spectacular ������

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jopecasa View Post
    Holy shit!!......... Thanks Blacknight!

    @theshafro....Wow this is good .... in my order....don't want USB please!

    Awesome work dude!
    Okay. I'll try to borrow an X5 to do some testing.

    Quote Originally Posted by busmn540 View Post
    Damn @theshafro, your work is nothing short of spectacular ������
    Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    Okay. I'll try to borrow an X5 to do some testing.

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    Think I'm gonna give this a shot. I have ibus and Canbus things here and I should be able to program the pi to work with nbt. I have tried the GitHub above but kept getting an error when running it.

    Before I start buying things, Does anyone know if this f30 6.5 inch cid will work? They're cheap and can be had for about $40.

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    I think 6.5's are only for CIC and NBT_Entry.

    You can actually get the F10 10.25" screen for about $60 from junkyards if you call around. If you have the patience to ask for pictures, you might be able to find one without scratches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorstenD View Post
    HI,

    somebody can sell a display bezel for e46?


    Thorsten
    HI,

    I want to ask here again, if someone could help me with a display bezel for e46, so that I could install NBT evo with touchscreen on my E46 convertible.


    Thorsten

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    Finally trying the E53 mount. I'll update later tonight on fitment. Let's see how close/far I get.

    https://imgur.com/MjrWOBc

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    NBT/CIC/CCC retrofit in E39/E38/E53

    Still ordering parts. What cables is everyone running from the screen to the nbt since it has to be moved to the trunk?



    I recall seeing this build of someone using an f30 screen in their build. I'm guessing I'll have to flash the nbt to get it to work since it's a newer screen?

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    Unless you want to cut into your dash to mount that screen. Get an F10 or F15 for this style: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...8#post30380568


    Quote Originally Posted by Hakeem530i View Post
    Still ordering parts. What cables is everyone running from the screen to the nbt since it has to be moved to the trunk?



    I recall seeing this build of someone using an f30 screen in their build. I'm guessing I'll have to flash the nbt to get it to work since it's a newer screen?
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    In case anyone is interested, I have a setup from an F01 for sale (10.25" screen). It just needs the idrive controller. I was going to put this into my E38 but just don't have the time. PM me if interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    Unless you want to cut into your dash to mount that screen. Get an F10 or F15 for this style: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...8#post30380568
    Thanks for the heads up, I decided to grab an f15 screen. Any idea where I can source a video cable long enough to run to the trunk?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakeem530i View Post
    Thanks for the heads up, I decided to grab an f15 screen. Any idea where I can source a video cable long enough to run to the trunk?


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    Thanks. Think that should be everything lol. I'll start messing with it when it gets here. If it's anything like the other BMW Canbus devices I messed with (HVAC units and clusters), it shouldn't be hard for me to get it up and running.
    Last edited by Hakeem530i; 06-23-2020 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakeem530i View Post
    Thanks. Think that should be everything lol. I'll start messing with it when it gets here. If it's anything like the other BMW Canbus devices I messed with (HVAC units and clusters), it shouldn't be hard for me to get it up and running.
    Let's see what you come up with. I would really like to ditch the emulator stuff as it costs more than the damn units themselves. Something open source is pretty cool too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    Let's see what you come up with. I would really like to ditch the emulator stuff as it costs more than the damn units themselves. Something open source is pretty cool too.
    Thanks! That’s a good find! What other connectors or wiring is needed? What about the microphone? Or can the factory mic be used? Mine is 2001 e38.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kahlilj View Post
    Thanks! That’s a good find! What other connectors or wiring is needed? What about the microphone? Or can the factory mic be used? Mine is 2001 e38.


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    Got it finished. But need to tweak the fitment and re-print. I'll try again in a few days.


    https://imgur.com/pDuTXG7
    https://imgur.com/TLxXlHv

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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    Got it finished. But need to tweak the fitment and re-print. I'll try again in a few days.


    https://imgur.com/pDuTXG7
    https://imgur.com/TLxXlHv

    Damn that a factory fit. Very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theshafro View Post
    Got it finished. But need to tweak the fitment and re-print. I'll try again in a few days.


    https://imgur.com/pDuTXG7
    https://imgur.com/TLxXlHv

    Looks great! I'd hate to loose my factory cup holder...

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    I got my NBT HU today (still waiting on controller, screen and connector) and I think I got it running in about an hour via canbus.

    I used an old Xbox 360 power supply to test on 12V on my bed lol.
    yellow jumper to power
    Green jumper goes to ground
    Two twisted wires (Can high and can low) goes into the can transceiver that I use to send messages to the Canbus.
    Blue cable goes to my laptop and powers the transceiver.

    From what I've seen, the nbt powers up on 12V but goes to "sleep" after a few seconds if it doesn't detect can messages.


    Got it working by sending the following every 500ms


    Tested and the nbt stays on as long as I'm sending those messages. If I plug out the transceiver the nbt turns off. I Think I should be able to figure out the rest and test further when the rest of parts get here.

    Whats the purpose of the "emulator" that everyone is using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakeem530i View Post
    I got my NBT HU today (still waiting on controller, screen and connector) and I think I got it running in about an hour via canbus.

    I used an old Xbox 360 power supply to test on 12V on my bed lol.
    yellow jumper to power
    Green jumper goes to ground
    Two twisted wires (Can high and can low) goes into the can transceiver that I use to send messages to the Canbus.
    Blue cable goes to my laptop and powers the transceiver.

    From what I've seen, the nbt powers up on 12V but goes to "sleep" after a few seconds if it doesn't detect can messages.


    Got it working by sending the following every 500ms


    Tested and the nbt stays on as long as I'm sending those messages. If I plug out the transceiver the nbt turns off. I Think I should be able to figure out the rest and test further when the rest of parts get here.

    Whats the purpose of the "emulator" that everyone is using?
    The emulator converts DSC signals and IBus commands to the NBT CAN signals required for OBC and nav functions, as well as steering wheel controls.

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