NBT/CIC/CCC retrofit in E39/E38/E53

**Grinder34** · 03-25-2018, 05:49 PM

Thanks for bearing with me.

The monitor cable must've had some lint in it or wasn't seated well? I unplugged everything and blew on it, cussed at it, and put it back together. Now the screen works with the idrive.

1) iDrive controller doesn't seem to illuminate with the headlights on, further investigation required.
2) Still can't connect to it via esys.

I no longer get the port range error, just a general connection error. I formatted my laptop and freshly installed esys per the instructions PMed to me by shawnsheridan on another forum. It's frustrating, but hopefully resolvable.

Once esys is connected is there a list of things that NEED to be changed?

I've found some piece-meal (eg here it says "Nbt needs the gateway_table set to 5.": link). I know there are lots of other *options* about chimes, ///M logos, screen res...but are there any other must-dos? If nobody has a list, I'll re-read all 93 pages and post them up.

**blackknight530i** · 03-25-2018, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

Thanks for bearing with me.

The monitor cable must've had some lint in it or wasn't seated well? I unplugged everything and blew on it, cussed at it, and put it back together. Now the screen works with the idrive.

1) iDrive controller doesn't seem to illuminate with the headlights on, further investigation required.
2) Still can't connect to it via esys.

I no longer get the port range error, just a general connection error. I formatted my laptop and freshly installed esys per the instructions PMed to me by shawnsheridan on another forum. It's frustrating, but hopefully resolvable.

Once esys is connected is there a list of things that NEED to be changed?

I've found some piece-meal (eg here it says "Nbt needs the gateway_table set to 5.": link). I know there are lots of other *options* about chimes, ///M logos, screen res...but are there any other must-dos? If nobody has a list, I'll re-read all 93 pages and post them up.

Glad to hear it was just the video cable and some lint.

Lighting on controller is tied to the ambient lighting sensor in the car, not the headlights. Check it again when it's dark outside.

I would say look into Esys Plus. It's a launcher for Esys that adds scripting to the coding options. If you get that working, I can provide you my script that I use, which makes it much easier to get it going. You can also just look at the script in notepad and apply the changes manually in regular Esys using launcher pro.

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**pyro225** · 03-26-2018, 07:07 PM

Hi all not coded for about 4 months went into esys launcher 2.5 and it kept trying to generate a token reinstalled same thing, Google’s it and it says 2.8 fixes it. Try to run 2.8 and every time I launch it it says I need to install .net but it’s already installed - any ideas?

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**Grinder34** · 03-26-2018, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by blackknight530i

Glad to hear it was just the video cable and some lint.

Lighting on controller is tied to the ambient lighting sensor in the car, not the headlights. Check it again when it's dark outside.

I would say look into Esys Plus. It's a launcher for Esys that adds scripting to the coding options. If you get that working, I can provide you my script that I use, which makes it much easier to get it going. You can also just look at the script in notepad and apply the changes manually in regular Esys using launcher pro.

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Thanks, I'd love your script.

I did manage to get connected to the car...I think. I definitely get a connection error. I ended up on this thread (link) where neo_anderson said to proceed with coding even after the error. I was totally unprepared for this to actually work, but I hit "read ecu" on the first screen, got a tree with NBT_HU, and a bunch of files, and the one starting with CAFD had a green check next to it. I now need to actually learn about the coding portion (for both the NBT and my DSP).

I started ripping the interior apart to run the cables!

**Grinder34** · 03-28-2018, 10:54 AM

As you can tell from my recent posts, I'm stuck on the coding portion of the install, so I just re-skimmed all 90+ pages of this for information about coding. Hopefully it saves some headache for anyone else.

The last link was referenced once, but is probably the most important.
Here are links and summaries/quotes from pertinent posts:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=963421

So I was playing around with HU_NBT codes and set (3000) M_VEHICLE to aktiv, and it gave me red Sport Display gauges (the hp/tq gauges in HU_NBT, not the KOMBI). Everything else stays the same (so far so good)...

Also, (3002) SOUND_SIGNAL_SET gives you a few different sets of gongs (bmw, mini, rolls_royce or bmw_i)

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...2#post28478262

Only one option for BT audio, reset by VO

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...2#post28612832

Maps update (complex)

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...1#post28613131

Traffic option: 6AM

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...0#post28613150

Time issue

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...7#post28624287

Volume issue: code tophifi

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...3#post28624603

More volume issues:

Oh, to retain volume on startup code this

3002 VOL_MAX_ON default value is 19, max is 64, i set it to 40.

Desciption - Allows volume level to be retained up to 100% rather than startup on 25%.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...3#post28624803

more volume discussion

Set amp variant to external, audio variant to stereo, and VOL_MAX_ON to 64. This seems to work very well without touching the volume knob on the bordmonitor, though you can still increase the volume higher by using that. It won't retain that added volume though.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...3#post28624823

Amp variant: external
Audio variant: TopHifi
VOL_MAX_ON: Like 30.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...2#post28715292

I changed "EINHEITEN_MASTER" BACK TO "HMI". Saved ncd file. Clicked Code FDL and it didn't reboot.

I use kombi_l6 for that one. It's the one that allows the sport displays to work and all the other stuff does as well. Is this on the bench or in the ca

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...8#post28746848

Gyro_intern has to be set to nicht_aktiv on hw21+yeah

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2153382-NBT-CIC-CCC-retrofit-in-E39-E38-E53&p=29120200#post29120200

If the sound cuts off after 30 seconds or so, please note that your DSP amplifier will need to be recoded
You will need to have the following tools available for coding: BMW Standard Tools 2.12 with NCSExpert, a Windows laptop, a WIFI connection close to your car for remote coding (If applies).
The coding settings are as follow:
1. Read the AMP module with NCSExpert in Manipulation mode
2. Edit the module settings a find the value : BEDIENELEMENTE
3. Change the value from "bordmonitor" to "mid_basis"
4. Save the new configuration file
5. Run SG_CODIEREN in NCSExpert

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2153382-NBT-CIC-CCC-retrofit-in-E39-E38-E53&p=29122670#post29122670

Sounds like the gateway_table is set wrong. I think it's supposed to be table 5

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2153382-NBT-CIC-CCC-retrofit-in-E39-E38-E53&p=29143035#post29143035

Stay connected during flashing

run cmd as an admin and issue "netsh interface ipv4 set global dhcpmediasense=disabled" and "netsh interface ipv6 set global dhcpmediasense=disabled" commands

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2153382-NBT-CIC-CCC-retrofit-in-E39-E38-E53&p=29288361#post29288361

Update bluetooth firmware on NBT (bmw website)

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2153382-NBT-CIC-CCC-retrofit-in-E39-E38-E53&p=29680168#post29680168

Coding issues resolution (FA missing)

https://carsystems.com.ua/uploads/pdf/EXX%20NBT%20Retrofit%20Adapter%20Brief%20Overview% 20and%20Schematic%20Diagrams%20edition%203.pdf

Table 6 for NBT parameters (unclear which are required...eg PDC ones for non-PDC cars) (THIS IS THE MONEY LINK)

**Grinder34** · 03-28-2018, 05:14 PM

Anyone run into the "no warning tones" error upon startup?

IMG_20180325_161821806.jpg

Wondering if this is related to coding, or wiring. When I took apart the whole system (with some aftermarket bits wired in), there was a thin optical cable coming out of the DSP amp, into an aftermarket box (circled in red below..."mildly" phallic shape). It was not clear where that was SUPPOSED to go, so its currently not plugged in. Should it be attached somewhere?

IMG_20180311_143418603.jpg

**lad740** · 03-29-2018, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

Anyone run into the "no warning tones" error upon startup?

IMG_20180325_161821806.jpg

Wondering if this is related to coding, or wiring. When I took apart the whole system (with some aftermarket bits wired in), there was a thin optical cable coming out of the DSP amp, into an aftermarket box (circled in red below..."mildly" phallic shape). It was not clear where that was SUPPOSED to go, so its currently not plugged in. Should it be attached somewhere?

IMG_20180311_143418603.jpg

looks like a dsp converter for an ipod or something...could be wrong. not sure where the optical cable should go.

**Grinder34** · 03-29-2018, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by lad740

looks like a dsp converter for an ipod or something...could be wrong. not sure where the optical cable should go.

Yeah I think it was an optical cable that went to the cd changer. This was subbed in as an ipod kit.

So I made some progress in coding, but need an FA.xml since connecting directly to the NBT you cant "load" it as all the guides suggest. The question is: does it have to be accurate, or can I use a donor (and change the VIN to be safe)? I got a donor 550 fa.xml from shawnsheridan, but wondering what everyone else is using.

**lad740** · 03-30-2018, 08:46 AM

what system do you have nbt or evo?

**Grinder34** · 03-30-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by lad740

what system do you have nbt or evo?

I have NBT HW31 right now. I also have another NBT HW21 on the way to try to narrow down the issue.

**Grinder34** · 04-01-2018, 05:41 PM

New HW21 works great!

Except now I cannot connect to it via ESYS. Why must everything be so difficult? New one (HW21) is from an F30, while the original (HW31) is from an F10. I can connect to the original one no problem. I even tried changing my "key" or whatever so that ESYS premium would launch for an F030 instead. It'll still connect to the original NBT, but not my new one.

Edit: got word that the esys launcher options should have no effect.

So any ideas why I can't "Read ECU" for this NBT?

**blackknight530i** · 04-04-2018, 11:24 AM

Guys, here's my current script that I use with Esys Plus 2.8. It works for both NBT and NBT EVO. Some settings for the EVO won't apply to NBT, so just ignore them if you don't have them in your head unit. The easiest way to apply all of these settings is to use Esys Plus 2.8 and load it into the script window on the FDL editor page, then run it after you've read out the current FDL data.

Code:

;IBUS Script NBT/NBT2

CID_APIX_MODE=apix1
CID_COLOR_DEPTH=18
CID_DISPLAY_RES=1280_480
CID_DISPLAY_SIZE=10_25
DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION=10.25_1280x480
CID_COM_MODE=spi
ADAS_GPS=nicht_aktiv
TELEMATIC_ECU=nicht_aktiv

;Standard IBUS changes
AUTOLIMITER=gen_1
BASIS_KOMBI_MMI_LIST=aktiv
CALMING_KOMBI=nicht_aktiv
CAMERA_SYSTEM=trsvc
CAN__ANSCHLUSS_HEADUNIT=hu_an_body_can
CHECKBOX_TP=aktiv
COMMUNICATION_PARKMASTER=gen2
DAYDRIVING_LIGHT=standard
EFF_DYN_SPORT_CID=aktiv
EFF_DYN_SPORT_UNIT=aktiv
KOMBI_CIC=kombi_low
GATEWAYTABLE=table_5
VOL_MAX_ON=Werte=64
L4_L6_KOMMUNIKATIONSSCHALTER=L6_aktiv
EXTERNER_MOST=aktiv
EXTERNE_MOST_DIAG=aktiv
GPS_FROM_NAVI=aktiv
EINHEITEN_MASTER=kombi_l6_new
PRODUKTLINIE=lg
BAUREIHE=F10
MICROPHONE_NUMBER=wert_1
MICROPHONE_POSITION=wert_03
MICROPHONE_SENSITIVITY=L4_mic
STARTUP_EMBLEM=variant_01
COMPASS=aktiv
EDC_CIC=nicht_aktiv
OELSTANDSMENUE=nicht_aktiv
OELSTAND_OENS=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_PMA_AUSPARKEN=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_PMA_EINPARKEN=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_RV_C=aktiv
PDC_3D=nicht_aktiv
PDC_DIRECTION=vertikal
PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ=nicht_aktiv
PIA_PORTIERUNGSMASTER=aktiv
SETTINGS_INFO_DISPLAY=nicht_aktiv
SLI_NAVI_DISPLAY=aktiv
SYSTEM_GPS_RECEIVER=aktiv
ENT_MC_VIDEO_SUPPORT=aktiv
ENT_GRACENOTE_INSTALLED=aktiv
ENT_GRACENOTE_USB=aktiv
TRAFFIC_CATEGORIES=aktiv
AUTO_MAP_ZOOM=aktiv
A4A_XL=aktiv
HIGH_END_AUDIO_MENUE=kein_menue
NAVI_ROAD_PREVIEW=aktiv
TRAFFIC_MODE=aktiv
MDRIVE=nicht_aktiv
DSC_OFF=nicht_aktiv
DSC_MENUE=nicht_aktiv
A4A_VOICE_APP_SUPPORT=aktiv
GOOGLE_LOCAL_VOICE_SEARCH=aktiv
AUTO_PDC=aktiv
TI_XFCD=nicht_aktiv
TI_TMC=aktiv
TI_CA_TMC=aktiv
TI_TMC_REGIONAL=aktiv
TI_FALLBACK_DISABLED=aktiv
VOLUME_POPUP_DISPLAY=nicht_aktiv
RDU_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
SVR=nicht_aktiv
HEATING_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
VENTILATION_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
LIGHT_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
HORN_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
ASSIST_SVR_SHOW=nicht_aktiv
GETRIEBETYP=automatik

;Amplifier HiFi
AMPLIFIER_VARIANT=external
AUDIO_SYSTEM=tophifi
AUDIO_REMOTE_CONTROL=aktiv


;Video in motion
SPEEDLOCK_X_KMH_MIN=Werte=FF
SPEEDLOCK_X_KMH_MAX=Werte=FF


;Disclaimer display delay
LEGAL_DISCLAIMER_TIME=kein_ld


;USB Play Video
API_USB_VIDEO=both
ENT_CODEC_XVID=aktiv
ENT_CODEC_VCD=aktiv


;Video without Handbrake
VIDEO_HANDBRAKE=nicht_aktiv


;Play OGG format audio
ENT_CODEC_OGG=aktiv


;Automatic Time Settings
SETTINGS_TIME_AUTOMATIC=navigation
CLOCK_CHANGE_AUTOMATIC=aktiv


;Apple Enhancements
APPLE_ENHANCEMENTS=aktiv
API_IPOD_VIDEO=both


;Office Messages Speedlock
OFFICE_MESSAGES_SPEEDLOCK_CONDITION=none


;Video Speedlock Removal
VIDEO_SPEEDLOCK_CONDITION=none


;M Laptimer
M_LAPTIMER=aktiv


;Office
MACRO_PIM=aktiv
PIM_CROSS_USE=aktiv
PIM_DRIVING_TEXT_LENGTH=whole_text
CONTACTS_EIN_AUS=aktiv
PIM_BILDER_EIN_AUS=aktiv
CALENDAR_EIN_AUS=aktiv
TASK_EIN_AUS=aktiv
REMINDER_EIN_AUS=aktiv
TEXT_NOTES_EIN_AUS=aktiv
AUDIO_NOTES_EIN_AUS=aktiv
SMS_EIN_AUS=aktiv
EMAIL_EIN_AUS=aktiv

I also include settings for turning off the volume popup, so if you want that enabled, just either change the value or delete it from the script. For NBT (non-EVO), you can pretty much ignore the first block of settings for the CID, or leave them, makes no difference really.

That ought to get everyone started on basic coding these things. Please note, I work a full-time day job and don't really have time to support people on NBT installs, but there are others in this thread that are willing and able to do so. If you have a basic question on these settings or have some settings you would like to add, please feel free to ask, but I encourage everyone to find out how to implement the coding themselves by looking at resources such as www.cartechnology.co.uk or Mhhauto.com and asking the people that are much more involved in doing retrofits than I am. Cartechnology.co.uk is a forum that has links to many of the different programs you will need to code these as well as resources that can help with wiring/flashing/updating/restoring bricked NBTs/etc.

Good luck guys! This was always supposed to be a DIY thread that involves doing your own research and coding, so I encourage you to become more familiar with it by researching. I know this thread is huge, but there is a lot of good information in here. Someone who has the time and has read through this whole thread and understands what's going on might do well to create a new condensed thread that could be dedicated to supporting people on NBT retrofits. I just don't have that time to do it.

**Grinder34** · 04-04-2018, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by blackknight530i

Guys, here's my current script that I use with Esys Plus 2.8. It works for both NBT and NBT EVO. Some settings for the EVO won't apply to NBT, so just ignore them if you don't have them in your head unit. The easiest way to apply all of these settings is to use Esys Plus 2.8 and load it into the script window on the FDL editor page, then run it after you've read out the current FDL data.

Code:

;IBUS Script NBT/NBT2

CID_APIX_MODE=apix1
CID_COLOR_DEPTH=18
CID_DISPLAY_RES=1280_480
CID_DISPLAY_SIZE=10_25
DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION=10.25_1280x480
CID_COM_MODE=spi
ADAS_GPS=nicht_aktiv
TELEMATIC_ECU=nicht_aktiv

;Standard IBUS changes
AUTOLIMITER=gen_1
BASIS_KOMBI_MMI_LIST=aktiv
CALMING_KOMBI=nicht_aktiv
CAMERA_SYSTEM=trsvc
CAN__ANSCHLUSS_HEADUNIT=hu_an_body_can
CHECKBOX_TP=aktiv
COMMUNICATION_PARKMASTER=gen2
DAYDRIVING_LIGHT=standard
EFF_DYN_SPORT_CID=aktiv
EFF_DYN_SPORT_UNIT=aktiv
KOMBI_CIC=kombi_low
GATEWAYTABLE=table_5
VOL_MAX_ON=Werte=64
L4_L6_KOMMUNIKATIONSSCHALTER=L6_aktiv
EXTERNER_MOST=aktiv
EXTERNE_MOST_DIAG=aktiv
GPS_FROM_NAVI=aktiv
EINHEITEN_MASTER=kombi_l6_new
PRODUKTLINIE=lg
BAUREIHE=F10
MICROPHONE_NUMBER=wert_1
MICROPHONE_POSITION=wert_03
MICROPHONE_SENSITIVITY=L4_mic
STARTUP_EMBLEM=variant_01
COMPASS=aktiv
EDC_CIC=nicht_aktiv
OELSTANDSMENUE=nicht_aktiv
OELSTAND_OENS=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_PMA_AUSPARKEN=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_PMA_EINPARKEN=nicht_aktiv
MACRO_RV_C=aktiv
PDC_3D=nicht_aktiv
PDC_DIRECTION=vertikal
PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ=nicht_aktiv
PIA_PORTIERUNGSMASTER=aktiv
SETTINGS_INFO_DISPLAY=nicht_aktiv
SLI_NAVI_DISPLAY=aktiv
SYSTEM_GPS_RECEIVER=aktiv
ENT_MC_VIDEO_SUPPORT=aktiv
ENT_GRACENOTE_INSTALLED=aktiv
ENT_GRACENOTE_USB=aktiv
TRAFFIC_CATEGORIES=aktiv
AUTO_MAP_ZOOM=aktiv
A4A_XL=aktiv
HIGH_END_AUDIO_MENUE=kein_menue
NAVI_ROAD_PREVIEW=aktiv
TRAFFIC_MODE=aktiv
MDRIVE=nicht_aktiv
DSC_OFF=nicht_aktiv
DSC_MENUE=nicht_aktiv
A4A_VOICE_APP_SUPPORT=aktiv
GOOGLE_LOCAL_VOICE_SEARCH=aktiv
AUTO_PDC=aktiv
TI_XFCD=nicht_aktiv
TI_TMC=aktiv
TI_CA_TMC=aktiv
TI_TMC_REGIONAL=aktiv
TI_FALLBACK_DISABLED=aktiv
VOLUME_POPUP_DISPLAY=nicht_aktiv
RDU_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
SVR=nicht_aktiv
HEATING_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
VENTILATION_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
LIGHT_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
HORN_CONTROL=nicht_aktiv
ASSIST_SVR_SHOW=nicht_aktiv
GETRIEBETYP=automatik

;Amplifier HiFi
AMPLIFIER_VARIANT=external
AUDIO_SYSTEM=tophifi
AUDIO_REMOTE_CONTROL=aktiv


;Video in motion
SPEEDLOCK_X_KMH_MIN=Werte=FF
SPEEDLOCK_X_KMH_MAX=Werte=FF


;Disclaimer display delay
LEGAL_DISCLAIMER_TIME=kein_ld


;USB Play Video
API_USB_VIDEO=both
ENT_CODEC_XVID=aktiv
ENT_CODEC_VCD=aktiv


;Video without Handbrake
VIDEO_HANDBRAKE=nicht_aktiv


;Play OGG format audio
ENT_CODEC_OGG=aktiv


;Automatic Time Settings
SETTINGS_TIME_AUTOMATIC=navigation
CLOCK_CHANGE_AUTOMATIC=aktiv


;Apple Enhancements
APPLE_ENHANCEMENTS=aktiv
API_IPOD_VIDEO=both


;Office Messages Speedlock
OFFICE_MESSAGES_SPEEDLOCK_CONDITION=none


;Video Speedlock Removal
VIDEO_SPEEDLOCK_CONDITION=none


;M Laptimer
M_LAPTIMER=aktiv


;Office
MACRO_PIM=aktiv
PIM_CROSS_USE=aktiv
PIM_DRIVING_TEXT_LENGTH=whole_text
CONTACTS_EIN_AUS=aktiv
PIM_BILDER_EIN_AUS=aktiv
CALENDAR_EIN_AUS=aktiv
TASK_EIN_AUS=aktiv
REMINDER_EIN_AUS=aktiv
TEXT_NOTES_EIN_AUS=aktiv
AUDIO_NOTES_EIN_AUS=aktiv
SMS_EIN_AUS=aktiv
EMAIL_EIN_AUS=aktiv

I also include settings for turning off the volume popup, so if you want that enabled, just either change the value or delete it from the script. For NBT (non-EVO), you can pretty much ignore the first block of settings for the CID, or leave them, makes no difference really.

That ought to get everyone started on basic coding these things. Please note, I work a full-time day job and don't really have time to support people on NBT installs, but there are others in this thread that are willing and able to do so. If you have a basic question on these settings or have some settings you would like to add, please feel free to ask, but I encourage everyone to find out how to implement the coding themselves by looking at resources such as www.cartechnology.co.uk or Mhhauto.com and asking the people that are much more involved in doing retrofits than I am. Cartechnology.co.uk is a forum that has links to many of the different programs you will need to code these as well as resources that can help with wiring/flashing/updating/restoring bricked NBTs/etc.

Good luck guys! This was always supposed to be a DIY thread that involves doing your own research and coding, so I encourage you to become more familiar with it by researching. I know this thread is huge, but there is a lot of good information in here. Someone who has the time and has read through this whole thread and understands what's going on might do well to create a new condensed thread that could be dedicated to supporting people on NBT retrofits. I just don't have that time to do it.

Thanks Paul.

I actually took a stab at compiling some of the info into a google doc. After re-reading, a lot of the questions seemed to be about the "will this fit" (myself included), so right now the mini-document contains mostly that stuff.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

If anyone wants to contribute, send me a PM and I can add you as an editor to the above document.

**theshafro** · 04-06-2018, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

Thanks Paul.

I actually took a stab at compiling some of the info into a google doc. After re-reading, a lot of the questions seemed to be about the "will this fit" (myself included), so right now the mini-document contains mostly that stuff.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

If anyone wants to contribute, send me a PM and I can add you as an editor to the above document.

Can you enable commenting?

**Grinder34** · 04-06-2018, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by theshafro

Can you enable commenting?

Updated

**kahlilj** · 04-06-2018, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

Updated

Just read your doc grinder, good stuff! Easy to read and follow along. Thanks for sharing

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**cek151** · 04-07-2018, 11:01 AM

Hi I’m very interested in doing this mod I’m in the New York area can someone help me or guide me in the right direction I can drive to you depending on the state

**Grinder34** · 04-16-2018, 07:37 PM

The NBT installation seems to be draining my battery, has anyone else had that problem? Perhaps the NBT not entering sleep mode correctly? Any ideas on problems/fixes?

I also got the first version of my idrive mount mocked up, now need to intsall it (and if it works, make it much prettier and wrap it):

IMG_20180416_110626688.jpg

**blackknight530i** · 04-16-2018, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

The NBT installation seems to be draining my battery, has anyone else had that problem? Perhaps the NBT not entering sleep mode correctly? Any ideas on problems/fixes?

I also got the first version of my idrive mount mocked up, now need to intsall it (and if it works, make it much prettier and wrap it):

IMG_20180416_110626688.jpg

Yes, I think I have the battery drain issue on both my e39s. Would love to find a fix. If I don't drive the car for a week, it's either hard to start or totally dead.

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**Grinder34** · 04-16-2018, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by blackknight530i

Yes, I think I have the battery drain issue on both my e39s. Would love to find a fix. If I don't drive the car for a week, it's either hard to start or totally dead.

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This thread talks about pin 13 being the source of the drain:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=927194

**blackknight530i** · 04-16-2018, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

This thread talks about pin 13 being the source of the drain:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=927194

That seems to apply to the bimmer retrofit adapter and it looks like they released an updated firmware to resolve the issue. That thread also refers to an e60 with CAS, which e39s don't.

My pin 13 is being used to turn on my DSP amp in my wagon and not used in my M5. The wagon definitely does die more often though, so maybe it's the DSP amp not going fully to sleep.

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**Grinder34** · 04-16-2018, 09:53 PM

So i'm bad at wiring diagrams, but it looks like pin 15 is the 12V to the NBT. Any possibility of getting power from a switched fuse in the trunk instead of the original radio plug? Do you think that would have a chance of fixing it?

**blackknight530i** · 04-16-2018, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Grinder34

So i'm bad at wiring diagrams, but it looks like pin 15 is the 12V to the NBT. Any possibility of getting power from a switched fuse in the trunk instead of the original radio plug? Do you think that would have a chance of fixing it?

It would forget pretty much all settings if you pulled the main power off a switched fuse every start. The NBT gets its power on signal from the adapter once it gets an ibus signal from the car.

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**BMWCACincinnati** · 04-17-2018, 02:06 PM

Hey all!

I promise I haven't forgotten about you, nor has the project stalled. I just moved, still not quite settled in as all of my garage bits are still at the old place, had a 287k mile E60 530 taking residence in my garage for a couple of weeks due to a couple of terminal issues, and now Kmalinich's E39 M5 is in need of a clutch and starter. My 540 just got new valve cover gaskets, upper timing cover gaskets, and lower sump gasket. When it rains it pours.

All that aside though, it's in the car and nearly 100% functional. There's a lot of loose ends to wrap up, in both software and wiring but with warm weather on the way we'll have a busy summer but easily be able to get it wrapped up. I've driven the 540 to work a few times in the last couple of weeks and the bluetooth audio/navigation are working flawlessly. There was some issues with getting the timing for the DSP IBus Startup commands initially but those kinks were worked out. Startup/Shutdown are working great, and overall it's usable as it sits.

The bezel isn't....well it's obvious it was hastily handmade. Much better than a gaping hole though, so I'm okay with it for now.

I promise we're trying to get all this wrapped up as soon as possible so we can share what we have like all of you have over the years. If there's any specific questions you guys have, PM me or kmalinich and we'll get back to you as soon as humanly possible.

**Grinder34** · 04-17-2018, 06:25 PM

Anyone had this GPS issue before? My googling didn't reveal much other than it should say something like "OK" or "Check Antenna"

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