THROWING STAR WHEELS 8X17 Tire Rack "NO TIRES AVAILABLE" in the correct sizes!

[execmalibu]

I advertised I want Staggered Throwing Star Wheels for my 850Ci. They are 7X17 and 8X17.

But I revceived several Emails from the BMW experts saying that the correct size tires are NOT available...

When I checked with Tire Rack the OEM specs for the tires size 235X45X17 and 265X40X17 they Showed "NOT available"

ADVICE???

[Dr. T]

Huh? Just checked. Bridgestone RE760's still come up. This was recently discussed. See archives.

[execmalibu]

What sizes are you using???

I see there are a couple of tires available that are close in size but in extreme performance rating and they are in VERY Limited supply and have older date codes... What do we do in the future when they are gone?

[toomanyparts]

Huh? Just checked. Bridgestone RE760's still come up. This was recently discussed. See archives.

I have the RE760s. Decent price, but they wobble when cold and take a couple minutes to warm up. I would not buy again.

If you up the size to a 245 and 275, that gives you more options.

[TxGR8White]

245 & 275 are the way to go with the staggered setup - many options available then.

[Wuffer]

Ummm.... arent T-Stars 8 x 17 and 9 X 17? I agree withe the above - 245 & 275...

[toomanyparts]

Ummm.... arent T-Stars 8 x 17 and 9 X 17? I agree withe the above - 245 & 275...

I think perhaps exec looked them up with the stock sizes of 235/265. In all honesty, there is already a bit of a gap on the edge with this setup, so 245/275 seems to be a perfect fit. Quite big for a 17 inch wheel, but seems to be best way to go.

[DA850CSI]

I ordered 235/45R17 and 265/40R17 Michelen Pilot SP PS2 from Tire Rack back in 2/08/12 and got them without a problem. I've been happy with the ride, appearance and performance.

[TxGR8White]

I think perhaps exec looked them up with the stock sizes of 235/265. In all honesty, there is already a bit of a gap on the edge with this setup, so 245/275 seems to be a perfect fit. Quite big for a 17 inch wheel, but seems to be best way to go.

Here is what 245/275 looks like on 17" Staggered wheels:

[m6bigdog]

I ordered 235/45R17 and 265/40R17 Michelen Pilot SP PS2 from Tire Rack back in 2/08/12 and got them without a problem. I've been happy with the ride, appearance and performance.

You are correct,
Once (until 2-3 years ago) you had your pick of tire manufactures and tire performance levels with a 8x17" & 9x17" wheel size.
No more...

IMHO Michelins are hard to beat!!
The 235/45R17 and 245/45R17's are no longer available in PS2 you would need to go with Pilot Super Sport
The only thing still available in PS2 is 265/40R17 and 275/40R17 but those sizes are not available in Pilot Super Sport.
What a mess....
I anticipate you could run a split set PSS in front and PS2 in the rear and not really violate a tire usage no-no..

I talked to a Michelin Rep a couple of months ago and he looked in his magic laptop and said in 2017 Michelin will bring a PS3 into the USA, retire the PS2 & Pilot Super Sport lines and then the PS3 tire line will include more of the typical and popular 235/45R17 through 275/40R17 sizes.
Now if you believe that there is hope - if not it would be time to move on to 18's...

What a guy going to do if Michelin's & Pilot Sports are what you live for. I ran Goodrich G-Force TA (Michelin owned) for a short time, but I had nothing but problems and switched back before the thread was 50% warn and had no tire problems since.

Switch to 18's and solve the problem forever or use 9x17 all around (10mm spacer in front) use 265/40R17 & 275/40/R17 and hope Michelin brings back a better selection of 17" tires in a couple of years.

[E36Ron]

Hi M6BigDog:

Any updates on this issue?

I'm coming up on the same need, and would far prefer Michelins.

Can you reach out to said Michelin rep with the magic laptop, and see if his 2017 prediction is coming to fruition?

Tire Rack also suggested the 245/275 combo to me, advising me that they would be one third of an inch wider and one third of an inch taller. Apart from affecting speedo and all related speed-signal dependent parameter accuracy by maybe 4%, are there any other consequences?

Thank you,

-- E36Ron

E36 328 convertible
E31 V12 1991
E31 V12 1997

[rogbmw]

If you want the OEM size tires on the Throwing Stars, here you go: https://www.toyotires.com/tire/patte...e-summer-tires

I had them in the 18 inch size on the B12 5.0, and just purchased a new set for the 5.7 which were mounted this past weekend. They are reasonably priced an a very good tire.

[kiwiCSi]

Toyo Proxes T1 Sport - available in both correct sizes for 17-inch staggered wheels.

[Linwood Mingis]

I advertised I want Staggered Throwing Star Wheels for my 850Ci. They are 7X17 and 8X17.

But I revceived several Emails from the BMW experts saying that the correct size tires are NOT available...

When I checked with Tire Rack the OEM specs for the tires size 235X45X17 and 265X40X17 they Showed "NOT available"

ADVICE???

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 are great tires, quiet, they wear well, excellent in the rain, and provide overall good handing. The price is not bad as well. I think a 245/45 front and 275/40 rear should work fine. I think you will find they ARE available.

[rjbaren]

I bought a set of BFG Comp 2 All Season and after 1800 miles replaced one tire under warranty today. They shake like crazy when first starting out. In the next day or two I'll know of it was an out of round tire or these tires just shake the car till they warm up. I'm not sure what the deal is. They do grip pretty well, but I have to deal with the first few miles of vibration which I don't care for one bit. If this continues after getting a new tire I will move them to another car and try to use them up and never buy another set of BFG tires again. I had some cheaper Yokohamas and they were just fine, but after 8 years I felt I should replace them. Night and day, smooth to mega vibrations for the first few miles of cold driving.

[E36Ron]

RJ, was your set of BFG Comp 2 All Seasons the exact fit for the staggered 235/45/17 + 265/40/17 Throwing Stars? Or are they the larger 245/275s?

All my research suggests that the correct sizes are only available in summer tires, e.g. the Toyo Proxes T1 Sport, or the Bridgestone RE760s, and I too need an All Season tire, and so would have to consider one size up or one size down at both ends.

If one had to choose, which way should one go, up or down?

And PS: ExecMalibu above says his wheels are 7x17 and 8x17, but Tire Rack told me the OEM sizes are 8x17 and 9x17, which are the median widths accommodated by the Toyos per their website, link above.

Can anyone confirm what the OEM widths on the Throwing Stars are supposed to be?

Thanks to all,

-- E36Ron

[clubE31]

Both styles of wheel were sized 8x17-inch in the front and 9x17-inch in the rear, combined with 235/45ZR17 and 265/40ZR17 tires, respectively.
--> bridgestone potenza (still available).

17" alpina's are wider: 8,5J and 10J (245 and 275)
18" alpina's are 9J and 10.5J (245 and 285)

You can go wider on the throwing stars, but 265 and 235: the wall of the tyre alligns nicely with the rim.
I tested larger (I do have all 3 rims types above mentioned and these sizes are perfect). Going wider makes "fat" rounder wheels, not me taste.

[E36Ron]

So if I want all season tires, and I want Michelins, the only choice I have turns out to be the AS/3 Pluses with 235/45/17 fronts (correct size), and 255/40/17 rears (one-third of an inch narrower and one-third of an inch lower).

What do people think would be the impact of this choice of narrower and thinner tires at the rear?

[rjbaren]

The Comp 2 AS I am running are 245 50 16 square on stock Turbines or concrete cutters. I had 245 50 16 rears with 225 55 16 front Yokohamas and I liked everything about them, even the look. I just had a Comp 2 replaced yesterday under warranty with 1800 miles on it. I haven't driven them much but I am not crazy for them since they seem to shake the first few miles out the door. They do hold the road in the dry, haven't had them out in the wet. I don't think I would buy them again.
I got a price of $558.00 out the door on a set of Comp 2 AS 17s for my wife's car but I don't think I'll buy them for her. I'm sure she'll complain if they shake.

[toomanyparts]

Those work. I say stay with a 235/245 up front and run a 275 in the rear. No issues with either. 255 on a 9 inch wheel is a bit small.