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    Dynavin has made some BIG changes to their Audio/Video/Navigation System offerings, enough to warrant a new thread, and to hopefully keep all the relevant info and discussions in one place for future users of this forum. Please lets try to keep this thread about Dynavin and try to keep it informative, Q & A stuff....try to leave opinions and speculation out of it, there are already 100 other pages of that. Thank you in advance.



    The new N6 unit is 2 years in the making, with a big emphasis on higher quality audio components, features, and improved ease of use. You audiophiles will appreciate features like 24bit burr brown D/A converters, 5 band EQ, time alignment, 4 volt preamp outputs (for those of you with aftermarket amps), basically higher end internals across the board... The result is cleaner sound, much more consistent performance, a much better user interface, and a better appearance.


    ....and the best part? The price went DOWN....:thumbsup:


    As always, they are available in a variety of shapes and sizes to fit the BMW E46, E39, E53, E90,, and an assortment of Audi, VW, Porsche and Mercedes models.


    Details can be found on Dynavin's website, http://www.dynavin.com


    Or my website: http://www.jandtdistributing.com/


    If you are not familiar with dynavin read up on last years model here:
    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...fo-and-Q-amp-A

    And the Dynavin FAQ:
    http://jandtdistributing.com/dynavin...ons/faq-links/




    You can download the install guide from our website's E46 page if you want to get an idea of what its about
    http://www.jandtdistributing.com/col...6-bmw-3-series




    I had to bring my old E46 out of retirement to make this thread! Some of you guys who have been here a long time will recognize this as the car from the original Dynavin threads from 5 years ago....a friend now owns her, looks better than ever, and it was time for an audio upgrade!















    So lets get to it! WHATS NEW?





    Home Screen



    Like previous Dynavin units the MODE button brings up a source selection screen, large easy to press on-screen buttons display your most used sources for easy selection.





    Swiping the screen side to side reveals a selection various settings menus and ALL of the potential sources.








    While the Radio, Phone, and Navigation buttons are fixed on the home screen the other two are selectable so you can put your most used functions there for easy access.


    The "hard buttons" on each side have the same configuration as dynavin has had from the beginning but I noticed right away that the "clicky" buttons are now "soft touch". Subtle but nice upgrade. The knobs are similar to those on the D99 and newer, and thats a good thing, solid with a muted click as they turn. Other than that the unit has a similar "feel" and is cosmetically similar to earlier units.






    IPOD/SD/USB/Internal HD


    As part of the simplification and refinement of the new N6 user interface the ipod, SD, USB, and the internal 4GB storage functions all share the same basic interface. Simple and intuitive, with selections for artist/album/song/playlist, and in the case of SD and USB, additional selections for folders/video files/picture files. The list can be swiped up and down and there is a scroll bar on the side AND a quick jump alphabetical search allowing you to jump to any letter in the lists so large libraries are no longer a problem to navigate.







    Also in the name of simplicity the ipod now just plugs into the USB plug, no more proprietary cables, no more need for lighting adapters for the newer apple devices. Just use the cables you already have. The unit comes with a USB extension to get the rear mounted USB media plug to the glove compartment, console, etc... and we also have on our website flush mount USB plugs and ipod to USB cables if you want to do something a little more custom.






    Album art now displays alongside the track info. As you can see, clean and refined is what Dynavin was after here....
    Interestingly apps like pandora display similarly (from my iphone at least), displaying track info and album art.










    For those of you interested in higher end audio the unit will play lossless files, In my testing FLAC files played fine from USB and SD and Apple lossless (ALAC) played fine from an ipod.







    BLUTOOTH PHONE


    Dynavin continues to work with Parrot on the bluetooth system, its now cleaner than ever, will display your phonebook, and has a quick alphabetical search function to jump to any letter in the alphabet. As before it works with the phone buttons on your steering wheel. There is a built in mic AND an external mic, as before I recommend using the external mic as it allows you to experiment with its location for best results.









    BLUETOOTH AUDIO STREAMING (A2DP)


    This is another big step forward, the Bluetooth audio streaming quality is now as good as plugging in, It connects pretty much immediately and works with apps like pandora, stitcher, etc... in addition to your standard media apps. In addition track info is now displayed on the screen:





    The steering wheel control buttons work as well, including in apps like pandora. I find that this is now my go-to choice as a music source.




    RADIO, CD, DVD etc...


    The radio is what you would expect, 15 presets, RDS, Pretty standard stuff here. Settings for different regions etc...


    The unit plays CDs, DVDs, etc.... same as before.












    NAVIGATION


    As with previous dynavin units we are able to offer our units with pre-installed, licensed iGo Primo on our Dynavin units. This program has long been a favorite of the "hacker community" and I know some of our competitors are pirating it but Im glad to say we can offer it to everybody in a legit legal way. The licenses are not cheap but we include Primo with all of our Dynavin units. This also greatly simplifies things like future map updates etc... as iGo is well established and has an easy upgrade path available via their website www.naviextras.com


    Its clean and intuitive, easy to quickly search and enter addresses, all the maps are already on board so no internet connection is needed.










    The new N6 unit has an option to overlay the current media info over the nav screen, displaying track info and album art





    A few more iGo Primo Screens...


    Main Menu







    Main Map screen
















    REVERSE FUNCTIONS


    As always the new Dynavin N6 will work with a reverse camera, but dynavin continues to refine this function to work with PDC (parking sensors, if your car has them) and is completely configurable within the settings menu. You can have just a backup camera, PDC, backup cam WITH PDC displayed, or nothing at all.


    In cars that have canbus connected steering angle sensors the unit can even display parking assist lines that move based on steering angle, this is model dependent and remains to be seen what all cars it will work in....but for those where it does its some cool eye candy:







    AUDIO FUNCTIONS


    Here is where some of the biggest changes are.....Dynavin is going after a higher end market and as such has added a lot of good audio features to the new N6. Time alignment, three band bass/mid/treble AND a 5 band EQ with separate sub control, 4 volt RCAs for clean signal transmission to aftermarket amps, and 24bit burr brown D/A converters....you old school audio guys will know what thats about.





    Most of you guys probably dont know what time alignment is or what to do with it but its probably the single biggest factor affecting sound quality in a car stereo environment, this adjustment allows for you to delay the speakers at the 4 corners of the car independently so that the sound from each reaches your ears as the same time....basically putting YOU in the "sweet spot". Ive been running time alignment of one kind or another for a couple decades now, in my opinion its a MUST HAVE for any higher end system. One thing to keep in mind though is setting this wrong can also make your system sound terrible so its important to at least understand the basic fundamentals of time delay before you jump into this setting. Also keep in mind this is optimizing ONE spot in the car at the detriment to the other seating positions. So if you regularly listen to music with passengers you may not want to use these settings.





    5 band EQ, self explanatory:













    LIGHTING AND SCREEN ILLUMINATION


    Dynavins have always had matching button lighting, not a big deal, but FYI, the buttons match the other buttons in the car and dim with the dash light dimmer. Nice and OEM.


    Now this next thing may not sound like a big deal at first, but for day to day, real world use....its HUGE. The LCD dimmer can be configured in multiple ways and the dimming amount is fully adjustable. There is now an onboard ambient light sensor as well. SO you can set the unit up to dim when your headlights come on OR when the sensor sees its getting dark, or you can dim it manually. There are pros and cons to each approach and the overall ambient lighting where you are at and your headlight use habits will dictate which setup will work best for you. The adjustable LCD dimmer looks great as it does not just darken the screen as most "dimmers" do, it dims the backlight, so there is no "LCD glow" at night. Between the nicely dimmed screen and the clean white/red on black interface this is the best looking aftermarket unit at night ive ever seen


    A night pic in my E92,















    ETC...


    You can set the boot screen to whatever you like. Put it on a SD or USB and select it as your boot screen, real simple. A word about start up.... The N6 has about a 20 second boot time BUT dynavin has done something clever, the unit starts booting when you unlock or open a door.... and it does not fully turn off until about 20 minutes after you shut the car off, it goes into a standby mode. So in regular use, running errands, that sort of thing, you rarely see the boot screen, or if you do its only for a few seconds. I like things clean and OEM so I went with this in my personal car....







    Dynavin went to an oem style Fakra antenna plug on the unit so that the cars antenna can plug directly into the unit without any adapters. One less thing to install, one less thing to go wrong. For those of you with the old style antenna they provide an adapter.











    There is still an OBC display but at least on the E46 it doesnt show much at this time....just a couple temps:









    On my E92 there is a lot more, Im assuming this is a canbus/ibus difference thing, I guess it just depends on the particular model:







    Finally, a word about updates. Dynavin is really pushing the "DynOS" thing on these units. They have built into the unit (and their new website) an easy update path so that as they develop and activate new features it will be easy to update the units. The current units are running DynOS 1.0.0. so its clear that they intend the current unit to be "generation one" for their software. Its fairly finished as is, but I guess they have things in the pipeline.


    I was skeptical of this approach as marketing this as a feature obligates you to use it but Dynavin assures me they have plans in this regard and they have given me a few details about things they are working on. Dont expect huge, earth shattering, changes. But just know that there are further refinements and a few interesting features in the works and as time goes on these will be easy to apply to existing units.






    Finished look:










    HINTS, TIPS, AND HIDDEN FEATURES



    Ill be adding little hints and tricks here as I run across them and people ask about them.


    REBOOT
    Since the N6 does not actually turn off with the key but instead goes into standby mode for a period of time, getting it to reboot could be a tedious wait....but you dont have to, just hold down the source button for 6 seconds and the unit will reboot.




    UPDATES
    Go to dynavins website for the latest firmware updates, go to the product page for the unit that you have (N6-E9X in this case) and scroll to the bottom to see the DynOS firmware download link, in the case of the E46 that is here: http://www.dynavin.com/products/n6_e46.php


    Its easy to update and the instructions are in the download link but to reiterate, download the files from dynavins website, extract them and put the 3 files on an SD card. Put the SD card in the MMC slot in the dynavin, go to the "info" setting on the second home page and press the blue "update now" button. Then just wait for the unit to run the update, it will restart when its done.


    If you are using the same SD card that you keep your music on, delete the update files from the SD card when you are done.




    US UNITS AND 12 HOUR CLOCK
    DynOS 1.0.1 or later required....see above.


    The dynavin by default will display all the OBC screens in metric and the clock in 24 hour format. There is now a setting in the system settings menu to select EU or USA for the unit, change it to USA and you will find that all the units are now SAE and the clock is 12 hour.


    Keep in mind that there are some other regional settings such as the radio region setting (European or US frequencies) and of course all the navigation related regional settings....these settings are in the specific radio or nav settings menus.


    TIME ALIGNMENT
    What is time alignment? In a car you sit on the left side, placing you closer to the left side speaker, so the sound from the left side gets to your ears before the the right side and greatly reduces your sound sound quality. The goal in high end audio is to create a solid aural image of each musician at a certain point in space on a a perceived soundstage. By delaying the near side channel we can bring the sound back into "alignment" and put you in the "sweet spot."


    Sitting in the drivers seat measure the distance to each speaker (the front and rear mids in the case of the E9X). In my personal car it looks something like this (your car will be different):


    FL: 28in (71cm)
    FR: 48in (124cm)
    RL: 24in (61cm)
    RR: 42in (107cm)


    Take the longest distance and subtract the other distance from that number...


    So we end up with:


    FL: 53cm
    FR: 0cm
    RL: 63cm
    RR: 17cm




    In a recording there are sounds and musicians to the left, the right, and the center, it's the center that we are concerned with here. Most of the time the drums and primarily the vocalist are in the center. We want to select a music track that has some space in it so we don't want a heavily overdubbed recording with lots of backing vocals....too much noise.


    Set the fader to the front so we are only hearing the front pair of speakers. Enter the delay numbers above and put on some music. It should sound pretty good. Then raise one side of the delay settings, say the front left. As you do this you will hear the sound change, it will become hollow, out of focus, kind of a "in a tin can" kind of sound, your front speakers are now out of phase. Then lower the setting, as you pass the correct setting you will hear the sound come back into "focus", the vocals will move to the center of the car and become more solid. Keep going and you will hear it go out of phase again. Now go back towards you original setting again and listen as the music becomes focused again. Somewhere near the number we calculated above you will find the "sweet spot" where the vocals and bass are centered in the car and solid.


    Then fade the rear speakers back in a little bit at a time until the sound is full and pleasing but not at the expense of the solid centered imaging. And that's it. Now you can play around with the EQ and other audio adjustments.


    Try the above and if you have never hear a time aligned system you might be surprised by what you hear....it's a different experience than you are used to....


    Let me know if you have questions....I've been running time alignment in all of my personal cars for....a long time now...


    NOTE: the L7 system with the MOST adapter can only accept 2 channels of input from the head unit so you will not use any delay settings on the rear speakers, just measure the front settings and use those to set the time alignment, its not perfect but is still much better than non time alignment at all!




    BOOT LOGO
    Due to popular demand....here are some boot logo screens you guys can use....


    To put a custom boot screen on your dynavin just copy and paste any 800X480 to a SD card or USB, jpg, png, bmp, all seem to work. Put the SD or USB in the Dynavin, select the appropriate source on the dynavin and find the pic you want to use, when you are viewing it simply press the icon in the lower left and and a check mark will appear. DONE!


    I made this one, use it as you like....





    I dont know where this one came from....but credit to whoever made it....



    Credit to Transport3r for this one...nice!





    Credit to 1QuikWS6 for submitting these:

























    Ill keep adding to this post as we go, ill try to make it a inclusive resource for all the new, relevant, N6 info.
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    Just added a bunch of new info, tips, and tricks to the OP.

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    Is there any functionality for Sirius / XM?

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    No, none of these types of units support sat radio.

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    Its a dedicated radio software, its not an "operating system" in the way you are thinking.

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    firmware 1.1.1 is up on dynavins website

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    I am in the midst of an E46 N6 install in a car that came with factory Nav, Using a Fakra cable). Unit powers up and plays but I can't seem to get button illumination, (with headlight on).
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    read the FAQ on my website, its #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffb325 View Post
    read the FAQ on my website, its #4
    OK...that solved it. Install finished...looks great and everything appears in order.

    One issue I have is that the navigation does not talk. How do I turn that on?
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    check the volume settings or if you are on the newer firmware just turn the volume knob when its talking (you can "force" it to talk by going to the voice selection screen and selecting a voice repeatedly)

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    Jeff;

    First of all, thanks for all your assistance.

    One more question...How do you turn off the speeding warning??? (Why on earth would you want that in a BMW???) It's driving my wife crazy.
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    same place you just were....volume and warnings>speed warning, you can configure it any way you want, audio, visual, both, or non at all, AND you can set how far over the limit the warnings take place.
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    Jeff...thanks again. I have that speed limit warning shut off now, and the NAV is talking as it should. Now I just need to get my steering wheel buttons and AM radio working, (neither issues are related to the Dynavin, I had both problems prior to the install.)

    I must say, my wife was SO apprehensive about my installing this unit in her car. She thought I was nuts, and it was a waste of money, (she does not accommodate technology easily, and any change is difficult). But one day later and she loves it. Since it's a work car, it will be a great tool for her. She will use the Bluetooth and navigation constantly. In a 2002 X5 we had previously, we had a Mediabridge Bluetooth and factory nav, and the combination was absolute crap compared to this Dynavin. I was the only one in the family who could use the Bluetooth..it was so tricky; the NAV was slow and cranky, not to mention the lack of a keyboard made entry painful; neither are an issue with the Dynavin. The Dynavin is pretty comparable to my newer BMW in terms of ease of use, and one could argue the user interface, with a combination of knobs, buttons, and touchscreen, is in fact MUCH easier to use than iDrive. My wife figured out the basics of the Dynavin in a day...iDrive took her two weeks.

    I do have one other question about the Navigation: It appears the navigation system has the capability to give you traffic information. How does one get that working?
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    Glad you are enjoying the unit. Yes the new N6 units are fairly intuitive and easy to figure out.

    The TMC stuff doesnt work here in the US, licensing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerX5 View Post
    Jeff...thanks again. I have that speed limit warning shut off now, and the NAV is talking as it should. Now I just need to get my steering wheel buttons and AM radio working, (neither issues are related to the Dynavin, I had both problems prior to the install.)

    I must say, my wife was SO apprehensive about my installing this unit in her car. She thought I was nuts, and it was a waste of money, (she does not accommodate technology easily, and any change is difficult). But one day later and she loves it. Since it's a work car, it will be a great tool for her. She will use the Bluetooth and navigation constantly. In a 2002 X5 we had previously, we had a Mediabridge Bluetooth and factory nav, and the combination was absolute crap compared to this Dynavin. I was the only one in the family who could use the Bluetooth..it was so tricky; the NAV was slow and cranky, not to mention the lack of a keyboard made entry painful; neither are an issue with the Dynavin. The Dynavin is pretty comparable to my newer BMW in terms of ease of use, and one could argue the user interface, with a combination of knobs, buttons, and touchscreen, is in fact MUCH easier to use than iDrive. My wife figured out the basics of the Dynavin in a day...iDrive took her two weeks.

    I do have one other question about the Navigation: It appears the navigation system has the capability to give you traffic information. How does one get that working?
    Let me know if you figure out the steering wheel controls. My left side stereo controls don't work at all. The right side cruise control works fine.

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    Yes, I got that figured out. There's a short harness cable that connects the buttons to the center of the hub. It was a bit corroded for some reason, and not making good contact. After playing around with it, I ended up with buttons that went from not working at all, to buttons that worked sometimes, generally after long drive. As a result of that, the decision was to replace that little cable. Unfortunately back ordered from BMW, but I think it's should come in very soon. It IS an available item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffb325 View Post
    Glad you are enjoying the unit. Yes the new N6 units are fairly intuitive and easy to figure out.

    The TMC stuff doesnt work here in the US, licensing....
    Jeff, is there a way to allow the unit to be on standby for longer than 20 minutes? Say a couple of hours? I am really close to purchasing one but am hesitant because of the boot time.
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    No, in fact it's shorter in the new firmware, the standby time is only 5 minutes now. Frankly though the boot time is not much of an issue, I don't think I've ever even had a customer mention it. Remember that it starts to boot when you unlock the car or open a door....so it gets a good head start on you.

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    I see. If it hasn't been a problem, it probably won't be for me! Also, you may have answered this already but it wasn't completely clear to me. Is there complete iBus integration, as in Bluetooth music can be controlled with the steering wheel buttons? Thanks for your quick reply!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffb325 View Post
    No, in fact it's shorter in the new firmware, the standby time is only 5 minutes now. Frankly though the boot time is not much of an issue, I don't think I've ever even had a customer mention it. Remember that it starts to boot when you unlock the car or open a door....so it gets a good head start on you.
    I disagree with this statement. I find the standby to be MUCH longer than 5 minutes when fully charged. We've been using our 325xi almost daily, and the only time I see it boot is if the car's been sitting for a couple of days. The Navigation application does go through a bit of a boot up every time you start that part, but that only takes about 10 seconds.

    The boot up of the stock E46 nav/radio was much more noticeable, and slower. Also, on my 2008 E70 X5, the boot up on that CCC is even longer. So in this respect, the Dynavin is much better than the factory units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlogan7 View Post
    I see. If it hasn't been a problem, it probably won't be for me! Also, you may have answered this already but it wasn't completely clear to me. Is there complete iBus integration, as in Bluetooth music can be controlled with the steering wheel buttons? Thanks for your quick reply!

    Yes the steering wheel buttons work with bluetooth, ipod, radio, SD, etc....

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