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Thread: FOR RENT: Rear Subframe Bushing Remover/Installer Tool for E39 Sedan AND Touring

  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCE46M3 View Post
    The tools have been shipped out to the next renter. Praise M5 Jed for his contribution to the E39 community! Every E39 touring should change out the subframe mounts/bushings before anything else. I replaced the OEM shocks/struts with the Bilstein HD 2 years ago. I will say the handling in corners improved a lot but ride comfort only improved marginally, maybe 20% when the car run over road cracks. After changing the subframe mounts, the comfort improved 10 times! I can't believe the difference because upon visual inspection, the two rear mounts didn't look too bad at all from underneath the car.


    As I was reading post #4 about removing 2 bolts at the same time and wondered a while which 2 I should remove. I finally figured I should remove either the driver/passenger side as pair for the subframe to drop side way. I also found that having someone to help push the tire forward to line up the hole will make the installation much easier.


    I suggest including a simple diy procedure to #1 post to help people renting the tool in the future. Here is a draft of it:


    Tools and parts needed: New Subframe Mounts (4), this rental tool set, Floor Jack, Jack Stands, Wheel Chocks, (1) 12mm wrench, 21mm socket and socket wrench, 1/2in Torque Wrench, (1) phillips screw driver to open up the box, Grease (Multipurpose/Hi-Temp/General/Bearing etc), Windex or Soap Water Mix.


    0. Open the tool box. Inspect all pieces of the tool kit and read the instruction card. Ask M5 Jed if there are any questions or concerns.
    1. Find a level ground.
    2. Jack the diff off the ground about 18-20 inches using the diff housing (Avoid touching the diff rear end cover, place the jack an inch or so forward from the back). The higher the car, the easier to use the tool later but make sure your front bumper don't hit the ground.
    2. Place jack stands at the rear jack points near the rear wheels.
    3. Remove the jack and let the car sit on the jack stand. Place wheel chokes in front of front wheels. Check stability of the car. Don't go underneath if the car isn't stable.
    4. Jack the diff up again and have the factory jack point pads barely touching the jack stands. The idea is to support most of the weight by the floor jack at this point.
    5. Unclip the plastic holder of the slash guards. Loosen all four subframe mount bolts for about 2 inches using the 21mm socket.
    6. Lower the jack and let the diff drop with about 0.5 inches left on the bolts.
    7. Remove the 2 driver side bolts (front and rear) then lower the jack enough so there is enough room to install the tool on the top side.
    8. Spray lubrication fluid (PB blaster, 50/50 mix of acetone&power steering fluid, etc) at the top and bottom edges of the subframe mounts.
    9. Install tool per instruction card for mount removal. Make sure the long stud is clean and greased up before use.
    10. Remove both mounts on the driver's side with a 12mm wrench and the supplied 24mm wrench. Wait a few seconds for the mounts to deform back to shape if the nut is too tight to turn.
    10. Once the driver's side mounts are removed, take a few minutes to clean the surrounding subframe carrier.
    11. Spray lubrication fluid (windex, etc) on the new mounts and inner surface of the subframe carrier cylinder. Install tool per instruction card for mount installation.
    12. Line up the arrows on top of the new mount to the front and back of the car (longitudinal). Install the new mounts.
    13. Jack the diff and bring the subframe mounts up near the chassis mounting holes.
    14. Install the subframe mount bolts and plates while having someone to help push the rear wheel to line up the assembly.
    15. Repeat Steps 7-14 for the passenger side mounts.
    16. Tighten all 4 bolts and torque them to 140Nm or 103 lb-ft.
    17. Reinstall the plastic clips.
    18. Make sure nothing is around underneath the car then jack up the diff high enough to remove the jack stand.
    19. Lower the car, remove the wheel chocks and go for a test drive.
    20. Clean all components inside the tool box, put them back where they should be including the instruction card. Ship it to the next guy by USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Medium Box.
    21. Notify M5 Jed with tracking number.


    Hope this will help someone in the future.

    Cheers!
    Thanks for this Chris, I used this list for my install this weekend and it was really useful. A few things to add:

    For jacking points, if you don't want to lift the weight of the vehicle from the diff, you can use the rear most subframe bushing location. Just use a block of wood with a hole drilled (or chiseled slightly out) to make room for the bolt head, jack the vehicle up one side at a time with the block of wood and put jackstands under the jackpads.

    After #5, if you have a wagon with SLS you might want to unclip the SLS sensor connector because there's not much slack in the wiring. You might be able to get by, but I didn't want to chance it by putting strain on the wiring.

    When using the tool in removal configuration, make sure to remove the inner arms (#1 on the install diagram) from the tool as they are assembled for shipping that way.

    When loosening the subframe bolts so you can lower the subframe, it's a good idea to back them out completely and then screw them back in sufficiently so you know how much thread you are working with. You don't want to leave too little thread holding the whole subframe together when dropping the subframe down as to avoid stripping out the threads.
    Last edited by rpM; 05-09-2016 at 01:40 PM.

  2. #302
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    Hay jed, finally got the bushings in my hand. Please add me to the list. Im here in socal. Thanks.

  3. #303
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    I have my bushings can you add me to the list?

  4. #304
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    FOR RENT: Rear Subframe Bushing Remover/Installer Tool for E39 Sedan AND Touring

    Updating the reservation list for the tool:

    The tool is en route to HuskerRick as of yesterday.


    1. HuskerRick (current renter)
    2. ElMachoPrieto
    3. JBH78
    4. Richard Diesel
    Last edited by M5 Jed; 06-11-2016 at 10:21 AM.

  5. #305
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    Bump for a good dude.

    I was selling something here but it sold.
    Last edited by RSBBlackM3; 08-08-2016 at 05:51 PM.


    2001 540it Black/Black --- 2006 M3 Competition Pkg Black/Black
    **FOR SALE - E39 DINAN 540I 4" intake and filter - gently used PM ME for details.

  6. #306
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    please add me to list I really need this tool by like June 30th trying
    to get my dads subframe done for him as a suprise for Father's Day/he's coming home from vacation

  7. #307
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    Updating the reservation list for the tool:

    The tool is with ElMachoPrieto this weekend and will ship to next renter in the next few days.


    1. HuskerRick
    2. ElMachoPrieto (current renter)
    3. JBH78
    4. Richard Diesel
    5. plmike

  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by plmike View Post
    please add me to list I really need this tool by like June 30th trying
    to get my dads subframe done for him as a suprise for Father's Day/he's coming home from vacation
    Will be tight to have the tool to you before June 30 unless you get bumped up on the list. I suggest you contact the members in front of you and ask if you can cut in front of them. It's a cool gift to give to your dad. Hopefully the others are sympathetic to your cause.

  9. #309
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    Updating the reservation list for the tool:

    The tool is en route to JBH78.


    1. HuskerRick
    2. ElMachoPrieto
    3. JBH78 (current renter)
    4. Richard Diesel
    5. plmike

  10. #310
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    Please add me to the list as well - just picked my touring up today!

  11. #311
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    Hi Jed, please add me to the list. I'm in Los Angeles. Thanks!

  12. #312
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    I received the tool, cleaned up and ready to go out again:


    1. Durden
    2. Jimjim

  13. #313
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    Which brand of bushings are you guys buying, and where from? Thanks.
    BMWCCA Member #178349
    2001 525iT 5 speed
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  14. #314
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    Quote Originally Posted by 540 Mike View Post
    Which brand of bushings are you guys buying, and where from? Thanks.
    I got the Meyle HD bushings, part #33311094036 from FCP Euro.

  15. #315
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    Last edited by RSBBlackM3; 08-12-2016 at 02:16 PM.


    2001 540it Black/Black --- 2006 M3 Competition Pkg Black/Black
    **FOR SALE - E39 DINAN 540I 4" intake and filter - gently used PM ME for details.

  16. #316
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    Updating the reservation list. The tool is on route to Jimjim. Durden requested to be bumped down one spot.


    1. Jimjim
    2. Durden

  17. #317
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    What's the current list look like? If it's available, I'm interested in renting.

    Thank you.

  18. #318
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    There is no reservation list at the moment. The tool is with Durden and is scheduled to ship back to me this coming Tuesday, Sep. 6.

    If you're ready, I can ask Durden to ship the tool directly to you. Let me know, thanks!

  19. #319
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    Awesome! I am ready, subframe is out and I have the replacement bushings ready to go in. Please sent me a PM with instructions and I'll get my end handled today.

  20. #320
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    PM sent

  21. #321
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    please add me to the list as well. Thank You

  22. #322
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    There's no list at the moment so your first in line. I'm expecting the tool from Ingue this week. If you're ready, send me a PM and we'll get you set up.

  23. #323
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    Quote Originally Posted by M5 Jed View Post
    There's no list at the moment so your first in line. I'm expecting the tool from Ingue this week. If you're ready, send me a PM and we'll get you set up.
    Will let you know as soon as i have the parts delivered.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

  24. #324
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    Ok very good.

  25. #325
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    Could you pm me please.

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