It's all good. We'll always take care of our customers. If there is an issue with an order or something didn't go right on an order I don't mind if it makes it to the forum. It gives everyone an opportunity to talk about it and there are times we definitely get it wrong and I'll be the first to admit to that. At the end of the day if an order isn't perfect we want the chance to get it right and fix whatever went wrong. In regards to the pulleys, I've seen the OE pulleys chip before. BMW does not do a good job packaging them and they are typically loose in the boxes when we get them in. Sometimes the pulleys will be sitting under other inventory we receive in (we usually get stuff delivered in big boxes on pallets) and the original packaging gets mangled. Most of the guys who work in our distribution center know to check the pulleys for chips or any surface damage if the packaging has been compromised but it looks like one may have gotten through. I'm more than happy to replace that for you and get it sent out. I'll check it personally before it goes out as well. And in regards to the belts, all of the serpentine belts are like that these days but I like the explanation Contiental was able to give you on that.
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I gave up on FCP years ago. I use ECS, BMAParts ot Ticher BMW.
I recently bought a SuperSprint muffler for my M3 ($1800) from ECS and one of the tips got damaged during shipping.
ECS sent a replacement same day, had a tracking number before I got of the phone. A1+ customer service.
A big plus with ECS is the awesome photos of almost ever part listed.
I have had no problem with ECS, FCP euro or any others I have used
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I've used fcpeuro for my volvo parts and it was fine but now I use eeuroparts (direct pickup is great in CT). I think FCPeuro is a step above partsgeek, but all these issues of re-packaging and shipping out parts sounds very partsgeeky. Partsgeek sent me cheaper parts in the more expensive boxes, it was ridiculous and obvious. I didn't have the time to ship it back so I argued to have the prices adjusted and they did that, after many weeks. The guy who got sent the same shit shocks repeatedly has a very legitimate axe to grind.
Soda blasting is a very easy type of material. Soda blasting is good for paint removal. It will not remove bondo or rust. Lots of pros and cons, but I have restored a "few" cars and use the blasting as a last resort. The reason being is that 2 guys and two galons of real hi end stripper and a box of single edged razor blades can strip the entire outer shell of the body in +/- 4 hours. If you are totally tearing the car down, and I mean down, electro chemical dipping does it all
81 Euro undergoing total nut and bolt restoration
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Well "FCP EURO MEMBER"
FCP Spokesman on this forum
Fool me once, shame on me …. twice … shame on you.
Guess I got ahead of myself, giving FCP the benefit of the doubt, a few days ago!
Here it is Friday afternoon, just like last week when the first FCP package arrived *and I got the "chipped" BMW Genuine water pump pulley.
Well, just like last week, the second package arrived, with my newly ordered BMW Genuine water pump pulley (last weeks was returned for a refund) …. and THE SECOND water pump pulley also now arrived with a large "chip" in it,
like the FIRST ONE received last week. The water pump bag was also plastered with multiple BMW shipping labels, lending one to ask where does FCP gets its parts from anyways?!
I also noticed that an INA Hydraulic tensioner (also received from FCP yesterday), was also defective, as shipped. The top metal/plastic bushing is simply loose and moves around in the aluminum housing too much. This bushing should be tight in the upper aluminum housing of the tensioner. When the tensioner is installed with the whole lower AC tension unit, the AC belt idler wheel had too much "slop and play", and felts like it would rattle and bounce the idler wheel around if run with the belt attached (compared to the 15 year old hydraulic tensioner taken off my E39, that doesn't have any "slop or play" in the top metal/plastic bushing … unlike the new INA one FCP just sent me - that's going back to FCP too).
I'll have to wrap this up, saying (since dealing with these last two orders from FCP), that I now have absolutely NO confidence in continuing to order my BMW parts from FCP. i would still highly recommend ECS Tuning, Turner, Bav Auto, GetBMWParts, Pelican, your local BMW Dealership parts, etc., over FCP.
Looks like I'm just going to have to go over to the local BMW dealer in town, and pick up the water pump pulley from them instead.
All I can say with FCP is … buyers beware … (FCP) fool me twice, shame on you!
- First-time customer & last-time customer
Last edited by NJDave; 06-24-2017 at 01:04 PM.
Trolls? Ok look, you got a problem with a vendor, that's your business. Insult members trying to help, you make it our business.
If I have problems, I would say so, without acting like a jerk to other members. Don't count on my help in the future.
Jose
1987 M6
Livin the dream!
Nothing but great service and pricing from FCP Euro! I always check them first.
Dave,
I sincerely apologize again for this. I'm not sure why this pulley chipped in transit. We may just need to bubble wrap these since they seem to be fragile and from what I can tell, this has not been a problem with this specific part in the past. And I'm not just a spokesperson for FCP Euro but I also manage the BMW Parts Catalog. Everything on the website for sale is my responsibility.
In regards to the labels on the bag, BMW does that internally. You can see the label where it says the customer is FCP Euro on it. That means BMW sold it to us as the customer on their system. The multiple labels is not uncommon and if sourced second hand the customer info would say something different. Every label on the pulley bag is done by BMW. That is their labeling system, not a secondary seller.
In regards to the INA tensioner plastic bushing being loose and pivoting, that is not a defect, that is how INA designs them now. The part from the dealer is 100% identical in the design. This however is not the same as BMW originally installed on the vehicle so when comparing the two you will see that difference.
I'm sorry you feel like you have been fooled. However, I understand where you are coming from on the customer side. I don't think the pulley would have been shipped in that condition, I truly believe it happened in transit. I'm PMing you with a resolution.
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Well I don't normally weigh in, but considering I deal with Brian on a weekly basis, I think spending $10,000-$20,000 annually at FCP I should say something.
I, like a few others didn't like FCP Groton, but FCP Euro courted me hard going back to the beginning of their change in direction. Needless to say, it worked, I used AutohausAZ exclusively prior and FCP has been my exclusive online supplier since 2013. While I do get damaged or wrong parts I can say that FCP has done it least out of all my suppliers, including Advance Auto and my local BMW dealer. Far more importantly when I have had the wrong part or issue, there is no worry that they will be right there to take care of it. For all the complaining other Dave did, he said more positive about the company than negative, they stood behind their parts twice. When Pelican messed up an order twice back in 2010 for me they got verbally angry with me, like it was my fault the parts were defective. Then there was the subpar AutohausAZ customer service... I am loyal to FCP, Brian and Dan before that. I really enjoy the ease of ordering and great phone service, for when I need to order a part for a client but don't have time for the site or even email.
In closing, I like them and when I have had the rare issue they have taken great care of me. In fact I personally think their new lifetime warranty system is a bad idea, but they did it anyway! So Im not some shill. haha
I use them.
BMW Dave
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[QUOTE=samsonevickis;… "So Im not some shill. haha"
Hmmmm ….. One has to expect, that after any company/customer experience in forum "warning" posts … you'll always get the company "shills" to show up at some point after you post!
It's how they continue to get company part discounts.
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[QUOTE=NJDave;29750802][QUOTE=samsonevickis;… "So Im not some shill. haha"
Hmmmm ….. One has to expect, that after any company/customer experience in forum "warning" posts … you'll always get the company "shills" to show up at some point after you post!
It's how they continue to get company part discounts.[/QUOTE]
NJDave,
Not a "shill" here either, I can't tell you how long I have been buying from FCP but it seems to me the 1st time I saw them was on eBay, they were selling budget suspension kits, which lots of folks do. I checked with them and asked if they had higher quality parts, they said sure, it will cost you LOL, that's usually the case. I have bounced around, as most of us do looking for parts but always check with them at some point because it seems like I can find quality parts at a reasonable price and if I had a problem they have always worked with me to make things right. I have bought a lot of stuff over the years, not just car and I've found in so many cases when an item is damaged, it's usually in shipping, stuff just gets bounced around, what I appreciate is when a vendor, who ever they are says Op's sorry for the problem, we will get a replacement right out to you, as opposed to them saying well it was damaged in shipping, talk to the shipper :-( I've had that happen.
I just ordered a replacement water pump for the coupe, I'll take a couple pictures when it shows up and post them, I sure hope I'm not jinksing myself here, I need my pump...
Good luck with your project.
SprCpe
1989 635csi # 3268410
Built in Germany with love.
Ostatecznym maszyny jazdy BMW
At the end of the day we do our best to take care of customers even when things don't go smoothly, even if this is at a loss on our end in terms of profit. Our customer service department is processing a refund on your second order today in total for the order. As a measure of good faith I am shipping another pulley at no additional cost to you as I promised in a PM I sent to you on Saturday with a proposed resolution.
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Thank you for your continued support and business. Sicne you've been with us for a long time you have seen the changes that we have made over the years. We are far from perfect and we do get things wrong here and there but we are always striving to improve where possible. If you ever need anything please feel free to reach out to me as well.
- Gareth
I've been there personally and I refuse to let a customer deal with a problem like that on their own.
Let me know when you place that order. I'll keep my eye on it for you.
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SprCpe
1989 635csi # 3268410
Built in Germany with love.
Ostatecznym maszyny jazdy BMW
[COLOR=#333333]QUOTE=NJDave;29750802]Originally Posted by samsonevickis;… "So Im not some shill. haha"[/COLOR
NJDave,
Bud you should know who you are talking about before you open your mouth Other Dave is as good and straight a guy as you will meet. Maybe you should go over to the Mye28 forum where the guys there thrive on ripping people a new one.
81 Euro undergoing total nut and bolt restoration
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I have bought quite a few parts for my 2002 Z3 from FCP Euro and all were exactly the manufacture and high quality I would expect and I like the life time warranty. In fact I just replaced the Throttle housing I got from them and everything went great with the install.
They advertise that they are from Connecticut, but one interesting thing I have noticed with two of my orders. One order came from California and the other just shipped yesterday from a local BMW dealership just 25 miles from my house.
I have bought parts from suppliers from A to Z, but I generally look for specific brand parts and get them from the cheapest supplier or if I am buying multiple parts I will get them from the one with the overall lowest price including shipping cost and lately that has been FCP.
I have only ever had one issue ordering from either Pelican or AutoGeeks and that was for front brake piston for my Z3. The only manufacture I could find that supplied only the pistons was Centric, who ever the #$% they are, and I didn't want to spend the money for entirely new calipers. Two pistons arrived in a box with no filler and they were in thin plastic bags. One of the two was damaged so I sent one back after going through their ridiculous return policy and waiting two weeks. I got a replacement that was also damaged and when through the same again. Sent that one back and finally got a second good unit. I will never buy anything Centric product. Brake pistons should come in descent packaging like heavy cardboard boxes or even better bubble wrapped and boxed individually. I question whether they even left the factory undamaged.
As far as where the parts are actually manufactured, even brand name parts are made in numerous factories all over the world, Unless it says the part is Made in Germany you may get a part made by a German company that has factories in locations like "Russia" and I doubt suppliers like FCP Euro have control over that. If the part has a German flag next to it on a suppliers website does that actually mean it was Made in Germany or is it from a German supplier that may have made the part in one of their factories in another country. Do any of you really thing all the parts on a BMW made in Germany came from suppliers who actually made all the parts in Germany or are some of the parts from German companies who actually made the parts in other countries. I will say I will not knowingly buy parts made in China even if it is from a well know supplier with factories there. Example: Volvo cars made in China, no way even if I liked Volvos.
Hi Everyone,
I also want to put in a good word for FCP Euro. Very good customer support and the lifetime guarantee sends a very positive message to the market in relation to customer satisfaction as the primary driver of their company as an ongoing concern. I've been historically a Pelican customer but lately I've preferred the stock sourcing and availability on FCP and competitive pricing. I've spent quite a few thousand on parts for a number of Bimmers from '73 to 2002, for the past 15 years. It seems like lately, the OEMs themselves many times produce a lot of sub-par stuff for the secondary market. This is something that the parts sellers have nothing to do with, as far as I've seen.
A few years ago I heard that the original BMW parts do go through a more stringent quality control prior to redistribution and I've always been a bit skeptical of that but lately I've seen that for most cases, the original BMW-packaged parts (especially mechanical, electro-mechanical, and unsprung mass related) do last more. Generally speaking, there seems to be a pretty clear trade-off between quality and price, with few parts types where the trade-off is beaten (trim parts, non-unsprung, non-mechanical, etc.).
We sometimes utilize drop-shipping to fulfill orders when we don't carry stock in our warehouse or if it will take longer to bring the item in just in time than it is to simply drop-ship. However, some of our stock in our physical warehouse comes from the same vendors that will drop-ship for us. We can't keep 100% stock on everything we sell but we do stock items based on their sales velocity. For those items we will import them/buy direct from the manufacturer. If sales volume is slower and isn't classified as a top mover we will usually JIT (just in time) or drop-ship it to the customer. It's nice to have fulfillment options and flexibility from time to time based on operating conditions.
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It depends on what it is in all honesty. We sell a few parts that we list as "OEM Supplier" which have the BMW markings manually removed from them. These types of parts generally speaking either come from the manufacturer of the part who is contracted by BMW or in some cases the part is actually sold off by BMW into the market. In the case of where the part is sold off by BMW it's usually because of overstock on their end. They have contracts with suppliers that stipulate a certain volume. If they can't move the volume due to demand or a shifting market place they will sell off their stock under the condition that the part is neutralized and anything linking it to BMW is removed. Sometimes this is the only way to get an OE part without going to the dealer.
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I am getting ready to overhaul my coolant system. Apparently there is a change from 2005 to 2006 that I almost missed. It took multiple phone calls to reps before I got a guy named Kyle on the phone. He was helpfull, others where not.
In filling out the Credit Card info now.
A while back, I saw Lemforder control arms for my M6 at 30 bucks on the FCP website so I jumped on them. I received OCAP arms so called FCP and they said they had listed Lemforder in error and then.......paid for shipping of the OCAP arms back to them and sent me Lemforder arms at no additional cost. I think that says it all.
Rob E3
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