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Thread: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap

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    jake, this is great job. One question here. How to balance the corner weight? The S85 is very heavier....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Ball View Post
    jake, this is great job. One question here. How to balance the corner weight? The S85 is very heavier....
    Heavy duty 210mm iron diff in the trunk is a start

    About 25 lbs of iron on opposite side (arse) compared to a standard 188mm unit.

    188mm won't take the stresses of a s85 nearly as well either (8500rpm is the real killer)
    Last edited by wanganstyle; 02-27-2014 at 10:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanganstyle View Post
    Heavy duty 210mm iron diff in the trunk is a start About 25 lbs of iron on opposite side (arse) compared to a standard 188mm unit. 188mm won't take the stresses of a s85 nearly as well either (8500rpm is the real killer)
    Just got back from 2 weeks vacation spending money but lets do it. Build me the diff and send it to Jake. That and 60lbs worth of Lukebox in the back and a CF hoof should put us back to normal or very close. I just want to confirm the ratios we spoke of are Ideal before I pull the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanganstyle View Post
    Heavy duty 210mm iron diff in the trunk is a start

    About 25 lbs of iron on opposite side (arse) compared to a standard 188mm unit.

    188mm won't take the stresses of a s85 nearly as well either (8500rpm is the real killer)

    Driveshaft and axle RPM are related to vehicle speed, not engine redline RPM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofWill View Post
    Driveshaft and axle RPM are related to vehicle speed, not engine redline RPM.
    Vehicles with drastic high rpm can stress the diff internals more than low rpm.

    Ask an engineer why; im just stating facts.

    Perhaps it's the violent delta between wot @ redline and lifting.

    There's a correlation with extreme rpm and tx mile also; ford gt40 took quite a few more years to break 240mph than supra mk4 or the lambo v10.

    RPM's made the difference- the gt40 body and power and math was not lacking; engine just needed more rpm range to do 240mph+ standing mile
    Last edited by wanganstyle; 02-27-2014 at 12:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanganstyle View Post
    Vehicles with drastic high rpm can stress the diff internals more than low rpm.

    Ask an engineer why; im just stating facts.

    Perhaps it's the violent delta between wot @ redline and lifting.
    True, the torque required to spin down a heavy flywheel through a shift can put a pretty high load on the diff... that's why tires bark when shifting hard.

    Due to the gear ratios, the 1-2 shift will have the highest inertial loading, but I would expect the load that puts on the diff to be less than the load resulting from a max effort holeshot in 1st gear. In either case, the tires are the fuse.

    Definitely agree that a 500 HP car should have a 210mm unit, though.

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    A bit of a slow down with all my projects while I was moving to my new shop. Things are finally moving ahead again so it's time I update some build threads...

    First of all the shell was moved from my home shop to a much bigger space. Let me tell you moving this car was nothing sort of scary. I am sure it was well more secure and nothing was going to happen.

    Some pics of it's trip.




    made it....




    Back on a lift..


    Working on the toe and camber adjusters on the rear subframe.


    I didn't like how much was unsupported so I extended it some.






    Freshly powdercoated bits







    reinforcing trailing arms


    A couple pictures of what has been holding things up...
    New shop


    and a new toy...
    Last edited by JakeB; 03-28-2014 at 09:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeB View Post
    A bit of a slow down with all my projects while I was moving to my new shop. Things are finally moving ahead again so it's time I update some build threads...

    First of all the shell was moved from my home shop to a much bigger space. Let me tell you moving this car was nothing sort of scary. I am sure it was well more secure and nothing was going to happen.


    Is there not enough clearance to make the outer adjuster the camber adjuster?
    Last edited by DarkSideofWill; 03-29-2014 at 05:57 PM.

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    Jake. this is really nice car. I hope i can have one. E30 M3 is more costy than E36. But more classic... Curiously how to do rear suspension updates?

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    Steve flew in to do some work on the M3 last week....

    Got the bottom all re undercoated.

    Before


    After


    Fresh rear subframe and painted diff bolted up.


    Subframe in and trailing arms bolted up..new bushings, bearings, etc etc etc


    undercoated in the wheel wells too



    New brake and fuel lines run



    Gas tank ready to go in
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeB View Post
    A bit of a slow down with all my projects while I was moving to my new shop. Things are finally moving ahead again so it's time I update some build threads...


    First of all the shell was moved from my home shop to a much bigger space. Let me tell you moving this car was nothing sort of scary. I am sure it was well more secure and nothing was going to happen.






    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofWill View Post
    Is there not enough clearance to make the outer adjuster the camber adjuster?
    With the toe adjuster at the outer trailing arm mount, adjusting the toe will swing the wheel forward and back in the wheel house significantly, especially if you take advantage of the adjustment range you've built here. If your wheel/tire package is an extremely tight fit, that will be bad.

    Putting the toe adjustment on the inner pivot (as BMW themselves did with the E34 M5, btw) cuts the fore/aft movement of the wheel at least in half relative to having the toe adjuster on the outer pivot.

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    will be very interested on driving feeling of E30 S85 M3 vs. E36 LS3 M3.

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    Well the subframe from before was a bust.... The z3 steering rack was wanting to be in the same spot as the header. So we start again.

    The engine about in it's final location


    This is the e30 m3 rack rotated slightly down to clear the header.




    Rack in it's new home in the subframe jig.


    Bending a piece to connect the dots




    Trimmed down and tacked together


    Testing and ears for rack




    Boxing it in

    You can see a piece of bent plate going under the pan here. This piece was fun to make.



    Tacked together


    Clearance to the pan...around 1/8-1/4"


    Out of the car


    I really like how this part came out. Some little open holes still.
    Before (opposite side of after pic)


    After


    Still more cleanup needed.


    Entire thing before welding...
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    Nice!

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    This update is from a few weeks ago but just finally getting around to uploading all the pics and posting.

    Welding the new subframe up.




    Starting on mounts
    drivers side


    These will be fully boxed and also a new set of plates will be drawn and then water jetted. These are the mock ups.



    Subframe with mounts welded on


    And with both mounts connected. All this will be powder coated






    Steering clearance


    Adding another joint


    And a locator


    This is JUST a MOCK up. We needed to have the car movable to take to a show so this locator mount was just tacked on so the car can steer. There will be a stronger more elegant solution once the engine comes back out.


    Rebuilt rear axles


    A quick shot from the front.




    The coilovers are turned all the way down here and there is about 3-3.5" here. Yes it is close but the air boxes are about a 1/4" from the hood.


    Here it is at the vintage in NC a couple weeks ago.


    Also it is looking VERY good that we will be using the stock DME. nando has been working on cracking it and it's looking like it's gonna happen.
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    Have you looked at the sway bar yet? Was an issue with me S65 swap.
    It's not speed that kills, it's the speed difference that does. Obviously you aren't going fast enough.

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    Sway bar will have to go forward.
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    I first tried the Way the Arc Asylum subframe mod for S54 way, that had a variety of issues. Now have a roundy round bar mounted much further forward.
    It's not speed that kills, it's the speed difference that does. Obviously you aren't going fast enough.

    Turning Benjamins into noise since 1997

    I read a list of the 100 things you MUST do before you die. Funny, "Yelling 'HELP'" didn't make the list!

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    why hasnt anyone addressed the presence of an e30 wagon in the background of the shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKJimmy View Post
    why hasnt anyone addressed the presence of an e30 wagon in the background of the shop?
    That is my touring I had imported early this year
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    That is my touring I had imported early this year

    Hot.

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