HPF out of business today...?

[kenndoggy]

Notice how quickly the hpf haters came back? It's like they disappeared, until a post about hpf doing bad and then bam! There they all are again. Interesting, they must have been watching us.

It's because the 'haters' got tired of speaking to the wind when nobody would listen. Now that they're out of business, it's a quite satisfying 'I told you so'.

[redfoot]

Yes, I see why the FI forum views OT the way they do.

[nick325xit 5spd]

No I don't. I claim to have no idea what so ever. All I know is HPF went out of business and claim the fault of a huge dollar scandal that went on. I won't pretend to know more. You need to read more good. I said nothing more than "I can understand how Chris may never have noticed." I do not find that unbelievable. I am a data guy.

You got pissed off (see use of the word accuse, which is silly) when I suggested that HPF was not turning a profit, and then made some sort of inexplicable statement that seems to suggest that you don't know the difference between gross revenue, gross profit, and net profit. You made a bunch of speculation about how the fraud happened, and yet argue about what should be self evident. It's a bit of a contrast and kind of hilarious.

Edit: Fact is that I don't have any dog in this hunt. I was never in the market for an HPF kit, and they weren't built for what I would want if I did build a turbo (the torque curve reflects their hunt for peak numbers, something less important to me). The only thing that brought me in was your, uh, remarkable statements.

[yourapeein]

Popcorn:

[5mall5nail5]

You got pissed off (see use of the word accuse, which is silly) when I suggested that HPF was not turning a profit, and then made some sort of inexplicable statement that seems to suggest that you don't know the difference between gross revenue, gross profit, and net profit. You made a bunch of speculation about how the fraud happened, and yet argue about what should be self evident. It's a bit of a contrast and kind of hilarious.

Edit: Fact is that I don't have any dog in this hunt. I was never in the market for an HPF kit, and they weren't built for what I would want if I did build a turbo (the torque curve reflects their hunt for peak numbers, something less important to me). The only thing that brought me in was your, uh, remarkable statements.

Nick325xit I am so not mad that I didn't even bother reading past your first 4 words. Have a good one!

[dohcdoh]

It's because the 'haters' got tired of speaking to the wind when nobody would listen. Now that they're out of business, it's a quite satisfying 'I told you so'.

What 'I told you so'? I never bought any of their products. Neither did most of this forum. Who are you telling so? Lol each other? The three of people who bought hpf products on bfc are sure telling each other.

[dohcdoh]

Yes, I see why the FI forum views OT the way they do.

Hahahahaha

[nick325xit 5spd]

Nick325xit I am so not mad that I didn't even bother reading past your first 4 words. Have a good one!

I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how HPF was making a profit and went out of business. And we all know that anyone who claims to have stopped reading a comment written about them is lying.

[kenndoggy]

What 'I told you so'? I never bought any of their products. Neither did most of this forum. Who are you telling so? Lol each other? The three of people who bought hpf products on bfc are sure telling each other.

The 'I told you so' to the dumbasses that rode HPF's nuts thinking they built some awesome product. They built garbage, and like other vendors here that I'll currently leave un-named, used their customers as product beta testers and took advantage of them 1 too many times. Good riddance. Lets just hope he stays out of the BMW market. This is a win-win for EVERYBODY - except those who were dumb enough to buy their crap in the first place.

[dohcdoh]

The 'I told you so' to the dumbasses that rode HPF's nuts thinking they built some awesome product. They built garbage, and like other vendors here that I'll currently leave un-named, used their customers as product beta testers and took advantage of them 1 too many times. Good riddance. Lets just hope he stays out of the BMW market. This is a win-win for EVERYBODY - except those who were dumb enough to buy their crap in the first place.

Oh well in that case then go ahead... .

Told you so! I feel better, anyone else want in on this? Lol silly humans.

[ccsykes]

pure brilliance. This should be in your signature. How awesome it would be if everyone had to read this thread as a reminder of just how human and flawed we are regardless the confidence we have in our own position or words.

Thanks.. just being honest. I haven't met many BMW owners that didn't have an ego. That's why they buy them. That old joke about a porcupine and a BMW driver... I mean hell, I built an 800 WHP lime green convertible. I figured my ego was never in question.

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Oh well in that case then go ahead... .

Told you so! I feel better, anyone else want in on this? Lol silly humans.

As much as I feel bad for those who lost their jobs, those who are now in the dark about orders that were pending etc.. There is a slight feeling of joyfull irony and closure on the matter, at least for me.

[1sloE36]

The 'I told you so' to the dumbasses that rode HPF's nuts thinking they built some awesome product. They built garbage, and like other vendors here that I'll currently leave un-named, used their customers as product beta testers and took advantage of them 1 too many times. Good riddance. Lets just hope he stays out of the BMW market. This is a win-win for EVERYBODY - except those who were dumb enough to buy their crap in the first place.

Very few rode their nuts on this forum. The majority "hated" on them and shit on everything they did no matter what it was. Go back in the archives and read their first post. "NO, the s54 can't be turbo, DV has too many variables, it's too high compression, 30+ psi is impossible". I may question certain circumstances with customers, and even helped out of my pocket through my business to right some wrongs, but I'll never question the impact they had on the S54 turbo community. Calling them names and assuming their entire business practice shows poor tact. Something I've noticed from the hivemind mentality from this group.

I personally promote any business willing to step up in the FI game. Active, Dinan, MaxPSI, VF, ICS, ESS, and others have a ton of balls catering to the group. One mistake, one thing you don't personally agree with, or one bad transaction and you're ridiculed by tons of people. You do remember ICS being banned and shunned until recently, right? Looks like MaxPSI and Mike with Nick G are doing extremely well, so from that standpoint I'm happy to see their thriving business doing right. However, seeing another company lose employees and everything else is sad no matter which way you slice it. So how about we cut the bullshit, possibly be enlighten with what actually happened, and hope for more competition in the turbo S54 world? In the mean time those who don't know might want to shut the fuck up. That's exactly why I won't be responding to this thread until details are unraveled.

[AA98M3]

A headache.. that's why I sold the car. It was my money to burn, not sure why you care.

Should have went hpf.


Sent from the vortex of my Rotrex

[e30polak]

Well isn't this a turn of events! A lot of speculation in this thread that I don't care to get into, but it's definitely an entertaining read. At the end of the day I respect what HPF did for the community, and it's a shame to see this happen. I feel for their employees and customers...

[badmonkey]

Does this mean Fallon is available?

[rukman]

Does this mean Fallon is available?

As their highest creditor ForcefedM3 has acquired the rights to her as well. LOL

[m3j0n]

lolz.....

[Matt Cramer]

Unfortunately the lack of diversification of product (basically building your whole biz on a turbo kit for a single platform) and other areas of either mismanagement or inexperience led to their demise.

The E46 turbo kit was one of their flagship items, but they sold a lot of other items. They carried our MSPNP line, for example, which was for significantly older stuff (and a lot of it was for non-BMW applications).

As for how much inventory they seemed to have on the website - it's possible only a fraction of it was physically in stock. They might simply have had it drop shipped from other sources, as this is pretty easy to set up.

[wazzu70]

I think snail boy should stick to measuring bumpers on launch and tuning turbo cars in his driveway..

I can respect that far more than just writing a check for someone else to do the work.

[Z3speed4me]

As their highest creditor ForcefedM3 has acquired the rights to her as well. LOL

I am sure she has been "acquired" multiple times way before him....

[///36M]

Seriously. Go to BFC OT for large suns, financial and woman advice. Come to BFC FI for actual useful FI information and expert advice for running a company. Why other websites exist is beyond me.

You forgot drama. FI is drama for adult men.... OT is drama for late teens/early 20-somethings.

[dohcdoh]

I am sure she has been "acquired" multiple times way before him....

Ba-Zing!

[GG///M3]

I am sure she has been "acquired" multiple times way before him....

Katie?

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Damn, I'm going to have to come back to this thread because there are just too many new posts to read.

[sterile stork]

I'm rather ambivalent at hearing the news. I have been impressed by some of the strives in development on the E46 platform at the hands of HPF (and their contractors) while also completely baffled by Chris' online presence, ego, and routinely skirt-ish mannerisms. The loss to the community, while "saddening" will likely be unnoticed as so many other companies exist to pick up the pieces.

It has already been pointed out that HPF was slow to offer products for new (and promising) platforms, and almost routinely caught in poo-flinging, he-said, she-said exchanges on most boards. Chris should serve as a great example of how not to be the face of a company, and everyone should take a note not to make "dyno-proven" power claims with Speed (MPH)-based charts

In the local circles, it has been said that Chris was greatly in the red on the regular in support of the company, last I had been told, $200k. That's neither here nor there now.

EDIT: I'm curious what VAC will be doing with that monstrosity of a M3 (the ugly orange "track car") they had been repairing.