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Thread: Tiny ADS Interface - another open source ADS interface

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannbodge View Post
    I've got one of these on order and I'm building a case for it.

    How long do you hold down the service reset button for when doing an Oil reset and Insp reset?

    I thought I read 3 sec for OIL and 12 for INSP but can't find it anywhere
    Yes 3 - 5 seconds for OIL and 12+ for INSP.

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    I've got one of these now, it's absolutely fantastic... love how compact and sturdy it is. Regarding the oil service reset, I guess all I need to unscrew the OBD housing on the cable and press the button inside? Hadn't even thought about it yet, but my oil service has been on red for months now, might as well sort it out.

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    No!, connect pin 7 of the round 20 pin diagnostic port to a good chassis earth for 3 -5 seconds with the ignition on (i.e. dash warning lights on but engine not running). Then turn the ignition off, and back on and you should see green across the board.

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    I know about that, just thought there might be a simpler method using the TinyADS interface cable that's all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobek View Post
    just thought there might be a simpler method using the TinyADS interface cable that's all!
    It doesn't get any simpler than a paper clip between pin7 and pin19 for 10 seconds. It will take you longer to unscrew the cap
    Last edited by flyfishvt; 03-17-2014 at 07:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobek View Post
    I've got one of these now, it's absolutely fantastic... love how compact and sturdy it is. Regarding the oil service reset, I guess all I need to unscrew the OBD housing on the cable and press the button inside? Hadn't even thought about it yet, but my oil service has been on red for months now, might as well sort it out.
    I agree with everyone else that it is so simple to just use a wire, but to answer the question: If you have the tiny ads interface inside the 20 pin connecter then yes you could, if you wanted to, open up the connector to use the service reset button on the tiny ads board. I'd prefer using a wire wire to messing with the screws on the interface though. If your tiny ads board was outside the connector, then you'd find using the reset button a lot nicer of course.

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    Gonna open mine and see if I can fabricate a rod or button to actuate that without having to open it again, nice and clean way to do this without having to decipher the pin numbering.
    My M3 is 1 of 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by benemorius View Post
    Allow me to introduce yet another ADS interface design. This is what resulted when I took the almost free ADS interface design and tried to just make a PCB for it. I had intended to make something which would supersede that one, but instead they each have their own use now. I ended up redoing the design just about from scratch, so this is a completely different interface from the almost free interface.



    This design includes an actual PCB layout (I never did one for the almost free interface) and is more suitable for long-term use than a bunch of transistors wired up on a breadboard. It also adds status LEDs and some circuit protection to guard against accidental damage. Also, it's just barely small enough to stuff inside a 20-pin ADS connector for a really clean finished product, if you like that sort of thing. Basically, where the almost free design was a bare minimum design intended for limited use, this one is a full-featured design in the same class as other ADS interfaces including BMW's original design.

    So if you liked the idea of building your own interface but you wanted something more durable, you might try building this design. I'm attaching the gerber files and a parts list. You can send the gerbers straight to a PCB manufacturer (like OSH Park) to have boards made. The parts can be ordered from anywhere too, but you should find them all in stock at Mouser.

    For the less adventurous, I'm also offering prebuilt interfaces here in case you don't want to build your own. No promises on how long I'll keep making them, but I've just made a batch of them today and if there is sufficient interest I'm prepared to make at least one more batch. Really though the idea is that anyone can come along and download and build the design, so hopefully there will still be ways to get an interface after I've stopped making them.

    I've tested the design thoroughly, so you can expect it to function as intended, but of course mistakes do happen so if anyone discovers a flaw please let me know so I can update the design.


    All design files, including the schematic and a parts list (BOM), can be found here, but I'm also attaching everything to this post for convenience.

    Several attached files have had .txt extensions added so they could be attached - these extensions should be removed after downloading. In retrospect, this is anything but convenient, but I digress...
    Helo i by from you at the ebay.de this interface, can you give me a link where can i download an full funtional Inpa and other softs an install instruction to can use your interface..soru for my english.
    Thanks

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    I have bought a Tiny ADS interface
    I use a really serial port (COM1) on a Compaq deskpro
    Com port settings is default
    OS is Win XP SP3
    INPA 5.0.1 EDIABAS 6.4.3 version
    I use a 1-to-1 DSUB9 serial cable between ADS and PC
    EDIABAS.ini file is modified: Interface =ADS
    ADSSETUP.exe file was run by MS-DOS prompt and say: sucessfull
    The power and the ignition green LED on interface is lights on,BUT INPA write: "power OFF" and "ignition OFF"
    The interface DSR and RI output signals is OK.



    Can you help me in this problem?

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    Used mine today to diagnose an 'Electronic transmisson control module' indicator lamp on my daughter 1999 Z3 2.3, worked great with an IBM Thinkpad T30 running XP.

    ( the 'Electronic transmisson control module' indicator lamp was for a '39 plausibilitaet (sic) Signal Brake light switch / Brake (sic) light test switch' / '162 Brake signal' issue...Nice job BMW...really? )

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    This is an old thread, but I wanted to add an update with my experience getting the "tiny ADS" cable talking successfully to a 1996 e36 (ADS with ODBII).

    * Laptop: Thinkpad T21 with physical DE-9 nine-pin serial port
    * Windows XP SP3
    * Tiny ADS cable
    * INPA/EDIABAS from the disc from www.bcables.com (INPA 5.00/EDIABAS 7.3.0)

    I installed INPA/EDIABAS from the bcables.com disc. It puts all the EDIABAS.INI and obd.ini files in place, sets up the environment variables, etc.

    Then I edited the EDIABAS.INI files in C:\EDIABAS\bin and C:\EDIABAS1\bin to have:

    Interface=STD:ADS

    I also edited the three separate obd.ini files I found in C:\EDIABAS\bin, C:\EDIABAS1\bin and C:\WINDOWS to have:

    [OBD]
    Hardware=ADS
    Port=Com1
    RETRY=ON

    In the Windows XP hardware "Device Manager", I made sure that the "Communications Port (COM1)" device had its "Port Settings" tab with the values:

    * Bits per second: 9600
    * Data bits: 8
    * Parity: None
    * Stop bits: 1
    * Flow control: None

    Then I hit "Advanced..." and made sure "Use FIFO buffers (requires 16550 compatible UART)" was checked and both "Receive Buffer" and "Transmit Buffer" were set to "8".

    The "Resources" tab for the COM1 port showed

    * I/O Range: 03F8-03FF
    * IRQ: 04

    At that point, I launched "INPALOAD.exe" and was able to see the battery and ignition indicators. Once the ignition was on (but the engine was not running) I was able to interact with the various systems in the car.

    Hopefully this helps someone get up and running with the "Tiny ADS" cable in less time than it took me.

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    Afaik does Ediabas 7.3.0 not support ADS interfaces anymore. Try 6.4.3
    Last edited by Sebastian46; 09-21-2016 at 12:49 PM.

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    Correct, only EDAIBAS v6.4.3 or v 6.4.7 supports ADS.

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    Thumbs up

    I can't believe I waited so long to buy a complete Tiny ADS connector after finding this thread several years ago.

    Anyone with good computer skills who enjoys working on modern classic BMWs from model year 1995 and older really owes it to themselves to pick one of these up, along with an appropriate laptop (such as an IBM T30, or a newer laptop with a docking station) with a proper RS232 serial port.

    Brilliant work.
    Last edited by Shock(/\)ave; 05-07-2017 at 10:19 PM.

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    Thank you for your work!. I want do build the Interface with throughe hole components, but I cant`t open the PCB-File with Geda PCB. Can anybody help me?

    Sorry for me bad english :-)

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    Hello everyone, did anyone try to independently produce this interface from benemorius? Who got it? I built three copies and all have the same problem. They only connect to machines with OBD (tried on ms41 \ ms43 m52 / m54) But these control units do not need such a complicated scheme, a rather simple inpa d-can ((when trying to connect to a car with ADS, inpa gives an error IFH-0010. I tried it on motronic 1.7.3 and ms40.1 and on the dashboard in E36, I also checked it on knowingly faulty software with which another ADS adapter worked.
    Who can tell in which part of the scheme to look for errors? Where exactly is the part responsible for ADS? Thanks in advance to everyone who will help you figure it out.

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    Can Anyone help me out, I bought my K+DCAN cable that came with a cd of inpa. I have already set up inpa and ncs expert, but I donít have winKFP, is that a separate download or is it on my cd as well?


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