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    E36 Chassis Lap Time Thread

    To keep the E36 legacy going, please post fastest known laps at any track you can think of and I can add it to the first post. My interest is to record the performance of the E36 chassis against the world's best.
    Lap times do not need to be official records or in a race only, so qualifying counts in this thread. If you ran it, it counts.
    This thread will assume good faith on the part of those posting times and those who learn of times recorded in other media outlets.

    Racer's input establishes that qualifying laps and Time Trial cars do have the setup advantage, and so will unlimited classes over the lesser.
    But to me, it's not logical to negate a faster time because it doesn't fit numerous criteria.
    There is one criterion: E36! Anything E36 chassis, any motor, any mods.

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    Track, X:XX.XX, 96 M3 s52 TTC, John Doe (BFmem Hotshoe1)

    Autobahn Country Club South Circuit, 1:33.3, GTS3 E36, (BFmem LukeP)
    Autoclub, 1:53.734,'97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    Bathurst, Mount Panorama Circuit (AUS), 2:19.97 (Q), 1996 Motorsport 318 Super Touring, Craig Baird
    Blackhawk Farms Raceway, 1:19.6, NASA GTS2 95 M3, Zach (BFmem zabuomar)
    Buttonwillow CW13 3.1,
    1:53.977, in C-Mod spec, Andrew (BFmem Flink)
    Buttonwillow CCW1, 1:59.1,
    E36 M3 (NASA E0) Hankook C51 ~270whp/~2700lbs, Billy Johnson (BFmem Stuntman)
    Chuckwalla CW, 2:02.80X, '97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    Chuckwalla CCW, 2:01.784, '97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    Calabogie, 2:08.xx, C-Mod M3 GTR, Peter Carroll (BFmem PCarroll)
    Daytona,
    Dunnville CW (closed), 1:18.022, '92 nearly stock 325i $3k total investment, Eric Roy (BFmem E.Roy)
    Gateway Motorsports Park, 1:10.175, 1992 325i S52, NASA Central TTB record. Jon Eye (BFmem eye145)
    Hallet, ?
    Heartland Park Intermediate (2.2 miles), 1:34.630, 1992 325i S52, NASA Central TTB record. Jon Eye (BFmem eye145)
    Heartland Park Topeka, Club Course 2.100 miles, 1:26.321, E36 325 S54 swap 310whp/2920lbs race weight (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    High Plains Raceway- Full, 1:54.596, E36 325 S54 swap 310whp/2950 lbs race weight (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    High Plains Raceway - North Course, 1:17.547, E36 325 S54 swap 310whp/2920 lbs race weight (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    High Plains Raceway - West Course, 1:28.555, E36 325 S54 swap 310whp/2920 lbs race weight (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)

    Laguna Seca, ?
    Las Vegas Motor Speedway Outside Course, 2:03.3, M3 turbo 270whp, 255 RS-3, 3120lbs (BFmem Stupenduzzman)
    Memphis International Raceway, 1:16.590, 1992 325i / S52 swap, NASA TTB track record. Jon Eye (BFmem eye145)
    Mid-America Motorplex Plattville, IA, 1:35.164, E36 325, S54 swap 310whp/2920lbs race weight (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    Mid Ohio Club Course, 1:40.179, 98 M3 s52, BMWCR I-Sport, Ali Salih (BFmem Evice)
    Mid Ohio Pro Course 2.25, 1.34.0xx, GTS-3 e36 m3, 276 HP 3000#, (BFmem bimmer571)
    Mid Ohio Sports Car Course 2.400,?
    Miller Motorsports Park Outer Loop, 2:03.052, E36 325 S54 swap 310whp/2950 lbs race (NASA TT3 lap record) - Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    Mission Raceway, 1:14.7, 97 M3 s52 turbo street car, 3585 lbs, HPDE, Brad James (BFmem Chikinhed)
    Mosport CTMP 2.459, 1:25.340 (Q), C-Mod 325is w/ s50b32, Allan Lewis (BFmem AllanL)
    Motorsport Ranch Cresson, 1:19.9, NASA TTB 1999 M3, (BFmem CABimmer)
    Motorsports Park Hastings, 1:30.770, E36 325, S54 swap - 310whp/2950 lbs (NASA TT3 rec), Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    Mt. Tremblant, 1:43.4, C-Mod M3 GTR, Peter Carroll (BFmem PCarroll)
    Nelson Ledges,
    NJMP Lightning,
    1:14.078, '95 E36 in GTS2 Trim, (BFmem Fukes 2)
    NJMP Thunderbolt, 1:30.097 (Q), 1:31.029 (Rec), '95 E36 in GTS2 Trim, (BFmem Fukes 2)
    NY Safety Track NYST 2.1 CW , ?
    NY Safety Track NYST 2.1 CCW , ?
    Nurburgring Nordschliefe, 8.20 stock Euro e36 M3 (expecting to discover much faster times from race cars)
    Nurburgring BTG (Bridge to Gantry), 7:25.3, Prepped
    Euro e36 M3, Alex Hardt (YouTube: "BMW E36 M3 - 7:25 BTG")
    Palm Beach
    Pueblo Motorsports Park, 1:36.685, E36 325, S54 swap 303whp/2950 lbs race weight (NASA TT3 rec), Chris Mayfield (BFmem fsmtnbiker)
    Road America, 2:51.73, Stock e36 M3, (BFmem Mtecnic)
    Road Atlanta, 1:26.557 (Q), '98 1st running of Petit Le Mans
    GT3 class #10 PTG e36 M3 425hp 2300#, Auberlen/Simo/Pilgrim
    Sonoma, 1:41.5, NASA GTS-3 E36 M3 250/2750, Hoosier A6, Tony Colicchio (BFmem TC Design)
    Sonoma (FIA config), 1:50.070, NASA GTS-3 E36 M3 250/2750, Hoosier A6, Tony Colicchio (BFmem TC Design)

    Sebring, ?
    Summit Point Main track,
    1:20.629, GTS2, Dj Fitzpatrick (BFmem Spec3HOR)
    Thunderhill CCW 3.0 mile turn 5 bypass , 1:50.01, NASA ST3 E36 M3 275whp 2750 with driver, Hoosier R6, Tony Colicchio (BFmem TC Design)

    Thunderhill CCW w/ Cyclone, 2:05.23, M3 Turbo 300whp, 255 RS-3, 3120lbs (BFmem Stupenduzzman)
    Watkins Glen Long 3.40 miles, 1:58.149, Greg Read's BM E36 (turbo?), Aaron Povoledo
    Willow Springs (WSIR) 2.5 mile Big Track, 1:32.237 (Enth. record), '97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    Willow Springs (Streets CW), 1:25.7, '97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    Willow Springs (Streets CCW), 1:24.9, '97 M3 RTA Enthusiast class, RS3, 265ish WHP/3147lbs w/ driver, (BFmem Amir@AvusAutosport)
    VIR Full 3.27 miles, 1:59.895, M3 s54 GRM '12 UTCC , Tom Long
    VIR North 2.25, ?
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    Maybe you should do this on "fastest race lap". It's far easier to pull a fast lap in a DE or practice session or time trial (like GRM UTCC). Either way, it's your thread.

    For VIR Full, if I remember correctly, Bryan Watts ran a 1:58 and change in 2009 at the April club race in his E36 CM race car.

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    I feel those racing door to door are more likely to hit a lap record clicking off dozens of laps in a row. Time trial/ Time Attack still has traffic but only 3 consecutive laps to achieve a fast time, maybe a slight advantage one to the other.
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    Nope. You will see car setups for TT sessions that burn down after 3 laps.
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    Regardless, this thread will note the fastest lap known. My interest is to record the performance of the e36 chassis against the world's best. This is something E36 owners can come together on
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    I have the current NASA GTS2 Lap Record at RdATL. In GTS2 Trim 3,100lbs w/ DR 211HP 205 TQ
    1:39.4 Pulled a 1:38.9 in qualifying. March 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007DT View Post
    I have the current NASA GTS2 Lap Record at RdATL. In GTS2 Trim 3,100lbs w/ DR 211HP 205 TQ
    1:39.4 Pulled a 1:38.9 in qualifying. March 2012
    Thanks for posting a time, that 1:39 is pretty quick

    One of my favorite videos, Mike Skeen driving an M3 at Road ATL, 2nd lap appears to be a 1:36, description says 230whp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQnLwBYjdg
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    If you're looking for e36 chassis records, wouldn't swapping in an s54 kind of defeat the purpose? I'd think keeping the s/M50/52 motors in the car would make it more reflective of what the e36 chassis is capable of?

    Just a thought?
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    Found video of a turbo M3 at Thurnderhill CCW Cyclone

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr7H4v18JE[/ame]

    Published on Feb 10, 2013
    Here's two hot laps of Thunderhill CCW Cyclone. Lap time was 2:05.23 Spent most of the day drifting (check my channel for drifting footage) but decided to throw on some grip tires and try out the new setup. I only did 3 grip hot laps total all day so I'm still getting used to the new suspension, brakes, cage and power so there's tons more potential. Here's the list of mods:

    17x9.5 Apex ARC-8 with 255/40/17 Hankook RS-3
    Ground Control + Koni S/A coilovers (525# F / 650#R)
    UUC Sway barbarians (front full stiff / rear full soft)
    Active Autowerke Stage 1.5 turbo (~300whp in video)
    Blank OEM Rotors, Hawk HT10 pads, SS lines
    LTW rear highrise spoiler
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    3300 lbs (2940 lbs with full tank + 180lbs(driver) + 180lbs(passenger))
    Rest is stock
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    I'm in the middle of building an unlimited class time attack e36, this thread excites me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatblak View Post
    Found video of a turbo M3 at Thurnderhill CCW Cyclone

    Published on Feb 10, 2013
    Here's two hot laps of Thunderhill CCW Cyclone. Lap time was 2:05.23
    Fast e36 times are well under 2:00 at T'hill
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Fast e36 times are well under 2:00 at T'hill
    Looking at the NASA TT Track records, a well prepped e36 is under 2:00, not by a lot, but under.

    http://www.nasa-tt.com/Norcal_Track_Records

    For example, the TTB record is a 1:58.9 in an e36. TTC 2:00.5 also e36

    Add a second or so for the cyclone

    2:05 with the cyclone is pretty decent.

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    Thank you Jon for posting a record with link, updated list. I don't know much about Thunderhill so thanks for your input

    Im never original. Found this thread on Nasaforums searching for records http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=26036
    Edit: and another thread for Buttonwillow http://www.trackhq.com/forums/f90/to...ap-times-3922/
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpenfuyf View Post
    I feel those racing door to door are more likely to hit a lap record clicking off dozens of laps in a row.
    Conditions need to be right. If you're door to door you have to take some defensive lines in order to keep the guy on your butt from getting greedy. And in any race you have to deal with traffic, be it faster or slower. Finally, your tires are at their very best for only a couple laps of the whole race.

    As a result the fast laps are often in the 2 or 3 hot laps of qual, not in the 15 laps (or whatever) of the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Fast e36 times are well under 2:00 at T'hill
    True dat!

    Hankook Tire/El Diablo 95M3 won the EO class and finished P4 overall in the 2012 25hr race. Best lap was 157.085 with bypass. Not sure if that's a record for T-hill. Running cyclone adds 1-2 secs.

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    this thread should be about E36 Record lap times with the least amount of money. Surely anyone can dump money into the motor, drivetrain, chassis, suspension, and it'll most high end cars all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC Design View Post
    I ran a 1:53.6 in the GTS-3 car a few weeks ago in the bypass(nasa) config :-)
    Hey T

    yes

    From wannabe to has been in a few short years..... the older I get, the faster I was

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC Design View Post
    GTS-3 E36 M3 BMW last year we ran 240whp/2640#, this year we are 248whp/2728#

    Thunderhill Bypass 1:53.6
    Sonoma 1:42.9
    Buttonwillow CCW1 1:59.9
    Thanks Tony, member Flink (GTS3 #3?) gave me your name as a GTS record holder and I was going to have to search around, and then you post right in the thread.

    Any times for Buttonwillow CW13?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007DT View Post
    I have the current NASA GTS2 Lap Record at RdATL. In GTS2 Trim 3,100lbs w/ DR 211HP 205 TQ
    1:39.4 Pulled a 1:38.9 in qualifying. March 2012
    Intersting, I'll have to run on back down to reclaim that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flatblak View Post
    Thanks for posting a time, that 1:39 is pretty quick

    One of my favorite videos, Mike Skeen driving an M3 at Road ATL, 2nd lap appears to be a 1:36, description says 230whp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQnLwBYjdg
    228 hp, it's my car and no longer green, and no longer has that motor
    Last edited by jcrist; 02-25-2013 at 12:53 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    whatchu got

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC Design View Post
    GTS-3 E36 M3 BMW last year we ran 240whp/2640#, this year we are 248whp/2728#

    Thunderhill Bypass 1:53.6
    Sonoma 1:42.9
    Buttonwillow CCW1 1:59.9
    I should have re-read the thread title prior to posting as it is saying it's looking for records, not what's typical for a mildly prepped e36 with a decent driver. Then you have guys like Tony/TC Design who not only build great cars, but also can wheel. I see the those times and want to crawl under a rock. You may just want to look at Qual times and records from BMWCCA, NASA GTS etc for the various regions.

    For reference however, last season in a 95 M3, 223 HP, 2900 lbs, 245/40 hoosiers, SA Konis, no aero, my personal best was a 1:52.0 at Sonoma. I was happy with that until I saw that 1:42 above. Something to aim towards at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrist View Post
    Intersting, I'll have to run on back down to reclaim that!



    228 hp, it's my car and no longer green, and no longer has that motor
    OP you're gonna have to change the original back to me as RD ATL Lap record Holder in GTS2 be until Christ Puts Up...

    Here's the proof.
    139.344 DE's and Qualifying don't count for lap records, only Lap times during a RACE. I turned a 138.8 in Qualifying for that race..

    http://www.nasa-se.com/pdf/trackrecords.pdf
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