The Alpina E21 Holy Grail?

[Layne]

We established it's not a Callaway system. It looks like one at first glance, but that's where the similarity ends. It's more likely a one-off system.

Calloway was bottom mounted wasn't it? There was a "mass produced" top mount just like this although I cannot remember the brand. The Revell e21 model kit includes this exact system.

[jrcook320]

There were 2 basic callaway systems for the m10 - 2.0 and 1.8. Both were top mount and likely used the same manifold and turbo, though I have not confirmed this yet. The cast turbo inlet elbow looks like calloway, and the AFM to turbo pipe looks like an early 2.0 pipe, while the charge pipe looks like it could be a 2.0 charge pipe rotated downward. Note that this "Feupina" is using a 2.0 AFM in a later 1.8L chassis/engine, while Callaway never swapped major fuel system components. The callaway system used a Callaway designed "turbofueler", not a cold start injector, for fuel enrichment, along with water injection. There were also upgrades such as pistons, additional gages, and oil coolers. Also look at the compressor housing and CHRA of the "alpina" turbo. It is distinctly different that those used by Callaway.

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Per JDB, there were also Hardy and Beck turbo systems that were similar to the Callaway system. I have yet to spend any time researching this topic.

[Mike323i]

I started to type a long post reminding how Alpina was working on turbo cars during this period, under the direction of Dr. Fritz Indra, the results of which can be seen in the B7Turbo 5 and 6 series.
To claim that this E21 "development" work was done in the same house is such blatant shite....

So then this E21 turbo project was apparently done in blind parallel with Dr. Indra's M30 project, by an engineer, Kent Goldy, who only exists in internet references the seller has posted (including the screen shot earlier in this thread of someone editing Mr. Goldy's Linkedin homepage). Do some research on Alpina's B7Turbo/M30 development and tell me this story isn't completely incongruous from yet another vantage point.

Damn, I did it again anyway. I should really stop beating this crap to death, but I can't help it - like picking at a scab.

[okieflats]

Apparently Kent Goldy did indeed work for Mahle and managed to get arrested in connection with that employment.

Here is an excerpt of a related court document:

Case Number: 06-CV-10546
HONORABLE ARTHUR J. TARNOW
OPINION AND ORDER GRANTING PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS
Petitioner Kent Jay Goldy has filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus pursuant to 28
U.S.C. § 2254. Petitioner, who was serving a five-year term of probation at the time he filed his
petition, challenges two firearms-related convictions on the ground that he received ineffective
assistance of counsel. The Court finds that Petitioner received ineffective assistance of counsel
and suffered resulting prejudice because: (i) trial counsel failed to argue for the exclusion of
damaging impeachment testimony under the relevant Michigan court rule, resulting in Petitioner
deciding not to testify in his own defense; and (ii) trial counsel failed to object to a jury
instruction which did not convey the intent necessary for a finding of guilt. Therefore, the Court
grants the petition.
I. Background
Petitioner’s convictions arise from events that occurred on the morning of July 23, 2001,
in the City of Farmington Hills, Michigan, at Petitioner’s then-employer, Mahle Technologies
(Mahle). Prior to the morning of July 23, 2001, a representative from Mahle contacted the
Farmington Hills Police Department because Mahle planned to terminate Petitioner’s
Goldy v. Tierney, No. 06-10546
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employment and desired police presence when the news was delivered to Petitioner.
Farmington Hills Police Detective David Loe testified that he responded to Mahle’s
request for a police presence. Detective Loe arrived at Mahle’s offices on the morning of July
23, 2001. He joined Petitioner in a conference room and inquired whether Petitioner had any
weapons on him. Petitioner said he did not, which Detective Loe and his partner confirmed.
Petitioner stated that he had a gun in his vehicle, because he planned to transport the gun to a
gun shop for repairs. Detective Loe testified that he received permission to go through
Petitioner’s vehicle. In the trunk, Detective Loe found a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol with a
loaded magazine, but no shell in the chamber.
Detective Loe testified that he inquired whether Petitioner had any weapons in his home.
Petitioner replied that he did. Petitioner gave Detective Loe permission to search his home.
Detective Loe found a “Tech .22" pistol in Petitioner’s home and a device fastened to the barrel,
which Detective Loe characterized as a silencer. Petitioner informed Detective Loe that it was a
barrel extender, not a silencer.
Alfred Houde testified as a firearms expert for the prosecution. He testified that the
device on the Tech .22 pistol was a silencer, not a barrel extender.

[Surach]

Wow! I started a Level 5 Shitnado on this forum! Great stuff. So much valuable info on E21 Turbos I may try and compile it in some coherent manner.

[Twelvizm]

Per JDB, there were also Hardy and Beck turbo systems that were similar to the Callaway system.

If there is any truth that this car is any kind of "Alpina" car, it might be that H&B used to be known as "Alpina West." Maybe this an Alpina West built car? I've been told that they've built 2.0 turbo cars.

[Tom D]

in the early eighties mike detiel was the importer for alpina in the west.

[Mike323i]

Wow! Very interesting. At least the fellow does appear to actually exist. I had honestly doubted it.

I, too, thought that the kernel of truth in this whole story was that said engineer/builder had maybe worked at Dietel (my guess, but H&B works, too), and thus started the chain of misinformation.

[Layne]

Wow. I can't imagine the type of person who's employer requests police presence to fire him. You have to wonder if that's the kind of person that is honest about a car.

Searching his house as a result of that seems like BS though.

[1980 320iS]

Guys, as much as I love a good e-dogpile, I think we need to leave Kent Goldy alone.

There isn't any proof that he is trying to sell the car nor is there hard evidence that we are even talking about the same Kent Goldy. For all we know, his name and LinkedIn profile could have been appropriated by an unethical seller -- I'm not saying this happens, only that it could have happened...

Bringing up an arrest record from 12 years ago doesn't seem to me to be fair game... especially since he isn't the one actively trying to sell the car. I admit that I read that part with some salicious interest, but in my ever-so-humble opinion, it really isn't relevant to a car with questionable (at best) provenance being marketed as one of the most desirable E21's in the history of the universe.

If I remember correctly, we were told that Mr Goldy was too busy attending F1 races to be bothered to confirm/deny the stories being told about his old car. Even if we take this at face value, his name shouldn't be dragged through the mud because a Kent Goldy (who may or may not be the same person) had some issues a dozen years ago.

[For what it's worth, I find it very strange that someone with a silencer on a weapon would consent to a search of his house when there was no probable cause. If I was in that position, the only words out of my mouth would be "Get a warrant" but hey, that's just me... Not that I have silencers on my guns though.]

So my $0.02 is that unless Kent Goldy comes here and starts telling us how he ran the Uber-Secret-Turbo-M10-Dvision at Alpina, then the past of his namesakes is off limits. Just my opinion....

[THEPOOLEMAN]

[jrcook320]

Guys, as much as I love a good e-dogpile, I think we need to leave Kent Goldy alone.

There isn't any proof that he is trying to sell the car nor is there hard evidence that we are even talking about the same Kent Goldy. For all we know, his name and LinkedIn profile could have been appropriated by an unethical seller -- I'm not saying this happens, only that it could have happened...

Bringing up an arrest record from 12 years ago doesn't seem to me to be fair game... especially since he isn't the one actively trying to sell the car. I admit that I read that part with some salicious interest, but in my ever-so-humble opinion, it really isn't relevant to a car with questionable (at best) provenance being marketed as one of the most desirable E21's in the history of the universe.

If I remember correctly, we were told that Mr Goldy was too busy attending F1 races to be bothered to confirm/deny the stories being told about his old car. Even if we take this at face value, his name shouldn't be dragged through the mud because a Kent Goldy (who may or may not be the same person) had some issues a dozen years ago.

[For what it's worth, I find it very strange that someone with a silencer on a weapon would consent to a search of his house when there was no probable cause. If I was in that position, the only words out of my mouth would be "Get a warrant" but hey, that's just me... Not that I have silencers on my guns though.]

So my $0.02 is that unless Kent Goldy comes here and starts telling us how he ran the Uber-Secret-Turbo-M10-Dvision at Alpina, then the past of his namesakes is off limits. Just my opinion....

agreed.

[Tom D]

furthermore, since this tread has been linked to other websites both here and aboard, I think it would be wise for okieflats and jeanhawk to edit their post. something like this could be construed as slanderous.

[okieflats]

furthermore, since this tread has been linked to other websites both here and aboard, I think it would be wise for okieflats and jeanhawk to edit their post. something like this could be construed as slanderous.

You are free to believe that if you like, but that is simply ridiculous.

It was claimed that a man of this name worked at Alpina at the time, around 1980. A quick search to try to confirm that turned up no information relative to Alpina, but something related, namely Mahle. Since that is something mentioned by Paul in the proffered resume it is relevant to a degree. It has some use in seeking out the truth, especially with some doubting the very existence of Paul's referenced engineer.

Those who run this forum are free to delete anything and everything that I have ever written, just as the fascists who once ran Germany and Italy were free to kill off anyone not to their liking. So, go ahead and delete it. No, I will not edit it. That is a United States Federal Court document that simply says the conviction for weapons offenses was voided and wiped off the books. It is relevant because it says an engineer of that name worked at Mahle, consistent, I think, with part of what Paul had said.

[Tom D]

.......I think.........

this is your whole problem, you don't know anything, you only think you do. get it right, dragged a man through the mud again and you become the hero, get it wrong and this guy owns you!

[epmedia]

I believe Tom is making a good point.
Not because I usually always agree with him, it's mostly because Tom has the ESP too.

[jeanhank]

For the record, my previous comment was made to reflect my amusement at the tenacity with which this car has been researched, and the details of the story told in the police report.