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    6 more months of school for the wife, then she is finally done with the pharmD. As soon as she starts making money its time to buy a shop and a lift. Then I'll have you covered reaper!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5 View Post
    Nice - Everlast kind of worries me and their pedal setup is so weird. Their pedal has 0 - 100% amperage all the time. Not sure I could get used to that.

    Good luck and let us know how she works out. I know the guy on weldingtipsandtricks uses them from time to time with great results. The only thing that sucks is their support.
    I also purchased an Everlast 185 micro and have had nothing short of an awesome experience. I got mine after my wse-200p (chinese) crapped out and have NO issues with the 185. The tech support at Everlast even walked me through the repair of my old chinese welder and even offered to fix it free of charge if I covered shipping. Great Guys!

    I'm not worried about support at all...


    BTW, the 185 is the best welder I have ever used for aluminum. It just seems so much easier than my old air-co transformer machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goathumper View Post
    I also purchased an Everlast 185 micro and have had nothing short of an awesome experience. I got mine after my wse-200p (chinese) crapped out and have NO issues with the 185. The tech support at Everlast even walked me through the repair of my old chinese welder and even offered to fix it free of charge if I covered shipping. Great Guys!

    I'm not worried about support at all...


    BTW, the 185 is the best welder I have ever used for aluminum. It just seems so much easier than my old air-co transformer machine.
    Yeah some people have different experiences is all. If you read on welding web its rather disheartening. I remember a guy on there who lives in Alaska or something working on an oil rig ordered one, it took eons, finally came, was DOA. They told him everything he did was wrong (he's a welder on a rig or something), finally said fine yeah its a faulty machine... sent him another and it too was DOA or had issues holding an arc. The weird part about everlast is that they're a different company in each country. Also the 5 yr warranty is being phased out in the US to match the rest of the world which is like 1 or 2 years or something.

    I wouldn't speak so bad on them but they've made their support seem a little... ehhhh... over on welding web.


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    Mazur - what'd you use to model?


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    Everlast 185. I have no money and they offered me a great deal. They are coming out with a update in 3 weeks so I pre ordered that. They threw in a pedal, a 110V kit, and a 17 torch for 850 shipped. Those are normally extra. Promised the wife I will make it pay for itself, so looks like I'm looking for fab work. Anyone want a shortened 9 inch with disc brakes!
    I've been wrestling with which TIG to get when my house is finished in Dec/Jan.

    I was thinking hard about the Everlast 185, but if you look at their warranty, outside of like the first 30 days they make YOU cover shipping and insurance both ways if something goes wrong. That right there kinda blows out most the cost savings over a Diversion 165/Hobart EZ-Tig 165i if you have one warranty issue between 30 days and 5 years.


    I don't need 120V capability on it, as I've got a little Hobart Handler 125 (that I really like, super soft arc and it's got a really nice low end for car work - I welded the edge of a 22-20 ga rear fender all the way around super nice in one pass - which is hard because I'm not a great welder and it's a edge weld on two pieces).

    But I wonder what I could get the Everlast 185 240V version for if you're getting all that for $850 shipped....


    I'm really leaning towards the Hobart EZ-Tig 165i. Same welder as a Diversion 165 (actually slightly better warranty on a few items, mostly the same), and it has a foot control and a legacy WP17 torch that seems much smaller than the Diversion torch.

    It's got the same duty cycle as the Diversion 180, it just doesn't have that extra 15 amps up high at a super low 10% duty cycle. I've worked around really low DC on my Handler 125 with some preheat and setup time on the rare thicker piece, but on a TIG you need to form a puddle then it's a relatively slow process, so 1 minute doesn't seem like a ton of welding time. Not that 1.5 minutes is a huge difference at 165A, but it seems a more realistic DC for laying a bead.


    It's roughly $100 cheaper than the Diversion 165, and it's got a foot pedal, so that's the way I'm going if an import doesn't sway me with its dirty Chinese sweatshop allure.

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    FWIW, the 185 micro is 110/220 capable. It works off either out of the box.

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    Jacob btw, earlier in this thread I posted an aluminum project I am working on - I know we talked about aluminum fab and what you could and couldn't do. I am welding up this box out of 3/16" aluminum and it's working just fine @ 110v. You have to go slow as I can dump 150A into it or so, but an outside corner weld with an adequate gap is proving quite alright with the Diversion 180 on a 110v line.

    You're right that 1min doesn't seem like a lot but honestly unless you're welding something HUGE, you should be done in a continuous minute if your settings are right - I usually weld steel at around 7 IPM. Aluminum faster because once you're going... look out!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5 View Post
    Mazur - what'd you use to model?
    and, is each bend in each of the runners a single part file? must be a decent amount of work getting them all constrained/mated together

    wastegate looks sweet.
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    I've got a an everlasting 205 that I'm in love with. 1700 bucks for a ac/dc tig, stick welder and a plasma cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5 View Post
    Mazur - what'd you use to model?
    For that manifold, SolidEdge. Haven't used that software in at least three years though. I use SolidWorks now.

    Quote Originally Posted by black bnr32 View Post
    and, is each bend in each of the runners a single part file? must be a decent amount of work getting them all constrained/mated together

    wastegate looks sweet.
    Yes, each bend is a single part, lol. I would not do it that way nowadays. It was my sophomore year and was just learning CAD, so it was a somewhat painful process to come up with that design, and it wasn't fully constrained, as it would have been to complex to get everything perfect the way I was doing it. Now I would use 3D sketches and create Weldment features in SolidWorks.

    The wastegate I made for my final project in my CAD class. I wouldn't have wasted my time modeling it otherwise, lol. Also, I had no calipers when I was measuring the parts of the wastegate. I was using a fricking translucent ruler Fun times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goathumper View Post
    FWIW, the 185 micro is 110/220 capable. It works off either out of the box.
    There are two versions. The dual voltage 185 micro is $50 more than 220V only.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5 View Post
    Jacob btw, earlier in this thread I posted an aluminum project I am working on - I know we talked about aluminum fab and what you could and couldn't do. I am welding up this box out of 3/16" aluminum and it's working just fine @ 110v. You have to go slow as I can dump 150A into it or so, but an outside corner weld with an adequate gap is proving quite alright with the Diversion 180 on a 110v line.

    You're right that 1min doesn't seem like a lot but honestly unless you're welding something HUGE, you should be done in a continuous minute if your settings are right - I usually weld steel at around 7 IPM. Aluminum faster because once you're going... look out!
    I thought the Diversion 180 was limited to 125A on 110V? That's about what I'd guess it could do on an outside corner, since you're probably 10-15% less heat than a butt joint, and another 20-25% less than a T-fillet joint if it's anything like MIG on heat.

    The duty cycle between the 165 and the 180 is identical, but the 180 extends the line up to 180A at decreasing duty cycle(so they both do 165A at 15% DC). I figure I'll just live with preheating stuff the rare time I need that 15A more, as the cost difference is like $500 and still comes with that huge torch vs. the Hobart EZ-Tig. Honestly, at Diversion 180 prices I'd start really thinking about the Thermal Arc 185. But I think it's one of those things of always having a "better" machine be a few hundred bucks more, so you really have to draw the line at where you think you'll be fine for 95-99% of the jobs you run across. I figure anything I can't weld with some preheat and 165A, it's too heavy to put on my car.


    Some of the guys at Welding Web use their machine amperage like the guys that buy a C6 ZR1 to go putt around town. They're like... oh yea, I need 250-300 A to weld 3/16" aluminum... haha - WAT? Same thing with MIGs. If you listen to the guys over there you would struggle to weld 1/16" steel in a butt weld with a 110V MIG, and need 180+ A for 1/8" steel. And if you want to look at aluminum at all for home/hobby welding you should just go ahead and get a Dynasty 200DX and a water cooled torch.

    For hobbyist usage, I see nothing wrong with being a little duty cycle limited. Yea, maybe you need to grab a MAPP gas torch here and there, but no big deal IMO when most your stuff is thin.

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    ^^^exactly. Fine me a piece of metal on any car that is over 3/16" I built something more complex than 99% of car people will ever do with a 110v chinease mig and an angle grinder, in a one stall garage, in minnesota, in the winter, with no heat. Make stuff, not excuses.

    For me 220v is not an option right now as I rent. That really cuts down the options. Otherwise I would have got a used miller.


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    ^^^exactly. Fine me a piece of metal on any car that is over 3/16" I built something more complex than 99% of car people will ever do with a 110v chinease mig and an angle grinder, in a one stall garage, in minnesota, in the winter, with no heat. Make stuff, not excuses.

    For me 220v is not an option right now as I rent. That really cuts down the options. Otherwise I would have got a used miller.
    ...Why would you need 220v if nothing is ever over 3/16"


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    ^^^exactly. Fine me a piece of metal on any car that is over 3/16" I built something more complex than 99% of car people will ever do with a 110v chinease mig and an angle grinder, in a one stall garage, in minnesota, in the winter, with no heat. Make stuff, not excuses.

    For me 220v is not an option right now as I rent. That really cuts down the options. Otherwise I would have got a used miller.
    I've been looking for used stuff around here for a while. Nothing but old transformer machines from the 60's that are pretty expensive compared to other areas, and the occasional Lincoln Precision Tig that the guy wants 90% the new price for when it's like 6 years old and "I promise not used much" when it's got 2 330 cu ft bottles sitting next to it and all this fab equipment. HAH!

    I don't think 110V has enough juice to do a 3/16" T-fillet even with preheat, but maybe it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Def View Post
    I've been looking for used stuff around here for a while. Nothing but old transformer machines from the 60's that are pretty expensive compared to other areas, and the occasional Lincoln Precision Tig that the guy wants 90% the new price for when it's like 6 years old and "I promise not used much" when it's got 2 330 cu ft bottles sitting next to it and all this fab equipment. HAH!

    I don't think 110V has enough juice to do a 3/16" T-fillet even with preheat, but maybe it does.
    It does you just need to bevel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5

    It does you just need to bevel.
    The beveling, does it affect the strength of the area being welded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800
    6 more months of school for the wife, then she is finally done with the pharmD. As soon as she starts making money its time to buy a shop and a lift. Then I'll have you covered reaper!
    Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dohcdoh View Post
    The beveling, does it affect the strength of the area being welded?
    Well, technically yeah you could say that. But, the reason it does is because by beveling you are cutting into thick material and laying weld down that penetrates the thinner locations that would otherwise be impossible. Usually a bevel will result in 2 or more passes.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGoybWZjSis[/ame]

    Check out the 6g pipe. Pipeline welders could never weld in one pass, the pipes are so unbelievably thick. They're all beveled with multiple passes. Usually referred to as root, hot, and cap passes.


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